PG Thread: Only Reason To Watch This Year Is KP6

[Dr. Detfink]

Reading the snide comments from NY "sports journalists" via twitter amused me after ONE preseason game. Never mind the Knicks were missing their best defensive player. I thought Derrick Rose was moving really well, enough to show me that he has complete confidence in his body. Another bonus, he is distributing the ball. The Knicks' 3 had almost even # of shots. KP6 was definitely showing that he's improved the range and consistency with his shot, also he hasn't forgotten how to get back on defense.

Over to the Rockets, the joke on Harden, he can't be a point guard is switching places.

My one worry is the Knicks' depth...

[JXL]

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Dear god -- he looked like a 7'3" Ray Allen on those buckets.

I thought he looked significantly more solid -- more explosive compared to the stick man he was most of last year.

Did any of you notice his release is much more fluid? Last season his release had a more hesitant feel. Shooting with confidence is a very good thing to have. Once PJax gave him the green light to shoot 3s to his heart's content, you know he was shooting with confidence.

My prediction of 18/10/2.5 blks is going to come true!

[MaseInYourFace]

I kind of expected defense to look like trash especially with Noah out. Team defense is like 75% communication and chemistry, rest is a mix of individual effort and talent. With the roster turnover and the most vocal defensive captain out it wasn't gonna look good. My biggest concerns for season are depth and offensive philosophy. I am still not clear what kind of offense knicks are trying to run really. The media is full of so many ignorant people though and many who are ex players which is alarming. For example a common trope is that anything that looks bad = triangle, lmao.

[AmazingJason]

Rose looked good, KP looks awesome, Courtney Lee fits in great.

Jennings is a nut. Need him to play in control and be able to pick his spots off the bench. At least its only a 1 year deal. He is gonna be one of those players that is going to drive alcohol sales at the neighborhood liquor store just for me.

We really need Noah though. Our defense will be bad without him.

Wow it's crazy how people see games so differently. I thought Jennings played well for most part. He's a high energy guy. It seemed to me he was a play or two ahead of most of his teammates, lol.

Jennings looked good in a sense of getting to the basket and getting past his man, but a few of his shots reminded me of Jr. Smith. Just looked like he was excited though it was his first game I'm sure he'll play more under control next game.

Jennings is great penetrating into the lane. He looks 100% healthy. He usually plays a bit more under control...he was probably rusty.

The one thing we have to get used to though is that he's not a great finisher in the half-court. He'll miss his fair share of layups and short shots once he gets into the paint.

[Triple C]

I can't figure out if the "must-win" mentality for pre-season games are funny or admirable.

It's more funny that pre season is must-win, but in the season people want to lose 70 games to tank

[Deeeez Knicks]

Maybe this is where ESPN is basing their predictions off of?

Thats one of the dumbest graphics i have seen. Is there really a big difference between .516 and .478?

[JXL]

Reading the snide comments from NY "sports journalists" via twitter amused me after ONE preseason game. Never mind the Knicks were missing their best defensive player. I thought Derrick Rose was moving really well, enough to show me that he has complete confidence in his body. Another bonus, he is distributing the ball. The Knicks' 3 had almost even # of shots. KP6 was definitely showing that he's improved the range and consistency with his shot, also he hasn't forgotten how to get back on defense.

Not to mention the movement of the ball was great, just no one outside of KP and Rose was making consistent shots.

Preseason gonna preseason, but yeah, let's overreact on it.

[3toheadmelo]

Bulls fans trying to convince themselves rondo is better than rose HAHAHA

[El Poochio]

I was wondering why our player with highest +/- doesnt get any mention, then realized its not a surprise at all, gotta get used to it

[NYKnicksTAPE]

Lol @ Woodson.

You must have amnesia because we sucked in the pick and roll with him too. In fact all we did was switch on every other play and get burned.

True the switching was obnoxious but not everybody collapsed when the ball handler would attack. They trusted Tyson in rim protection and the defenders had enough discipline to control their man and not collapse and leave their man wide open.

Huh? We had zero discipline on defense under Woodson. Noah didn't play last night...there's a big difference between Tyson's mobility/rim protection and KOQ's. The Rockets will be tough for most teams to defend this season. It's just the 1st game of the preseason, and we didn't even have a defensive game plan last night.

[King of Canada]

The wild card game last night was great!

Ok, just watched the game. I made some notes during the game like I normally would do in the game thread.

1st Qt
That 1st foul on KP. How was that not an offensive foul and any different than the OF on Melo? Anderson drove his head right into KP’s chest?
I hate away commentators. Again with the “KP was booed on draft night” garbage, and then they followed it up with the boos turned to cheers about halfway through the season! Clueless.
I spotted a Knick pg kicking it out to the 3 point line!
Again on the offensive foul on Melo! WTF?
I saw another pg kickout!!!
End of 1st quarter – shooting was way off, but we’re working hard.
2nd Qt
Boy, Willy is looking like an NBA player right away. Kid is huge.
Melo looking like Melo, and Rose looking good too!
Seeing too many mid range shots again
KP with the dirty crossover and jumper!!!!!
Where in the hell is the ball movement and faster pace?
Harden would be 40% of the player he is if not for BS calls (and IT too for that matter)
KP with the dirty dunk
3rd Qt
KP with the smooth corner 3
KP again with the 3!!!!
KP the god child!!! He really is looking stronger out there. He’s a bit gassed, but not like last year.
Prediction: KP in the 3 point contest this year
Melo has disappeared now and is looking like a role player
Rose mid range/outer paint game is looking fantastic
KP’s uniform sponsored by untuckit.com
We’re really missing a big in the paint. Can’t wait to see Noah.
4th Qt
Boy, we look terrible on D in general. Slow, flat footed, getting beat all over the place.
It is now amateur hour…….
Ndour is pretty active defensively. He’s clearly trying to prove that he can contribute. If the whole team played this game like him we wouldn’t have been blown out
Plumlee would be an accountant if he wasn’t tall
Baker sighting!
Kuz looking great so far. What took so long?

[HEZI]

The only thing I did not like was Melo being a black hole. Need to see the Melo from last year, move that ball man. I didn't like him just looking guys off and going into Iso. There were a bunch of times where Holiday cut and was wide up for a layup and he just looked him off. Then again he had a shooter (Holiday?) wide open on the wing and he just went into tunnel vision mode and decided to go 1 on 3 in the paint. We need that mature unselfish Melo, not the ball stopping ball hog.

Yep - same thing stood out to me in terms of Melo approach.

Can see Melo thinking I got a legit PG now so I'm going to get my buckets.

It took about 1 minute and KP's 1st block to realize franchise is in KPs hands now and for long haul -- stay healthy unicorn.

It's only game 1 of preseason and I am not concerned about this going forward, I know Melo is a smart player and will figure this out. Here is what I feel like was the biggest difference between Olympic Melo and Knicks Melo, he trusts the talent on the Olympic team and comes out sharing the ball and waits for the offense to come to him. On the Knicks, he feels like it is his team so he goes out and tries to establish himself first, then he begins to defer to his teammates. I want him to play like he does in the Olympics, he has the talent this year to do trust the other players to make plays and let the offense find him. Often times the Knicks come out and force the ball to Melo and look at him to get them going, I want to see that change. It really needs to work the other way around. He needs to look to get the other guys going first, it will only make the game easier for him because the focus will shift. The reason the Knicks looked better in the 2nd half was because they didn't look to feature Melo, they gave the ball to Rose and Melo was either in the corner or helping KP get free by setting screens for him to curl. They need to let Rose run the show and Melo needs to have trust that his shots will come within the flow. He doesn't need to set the tone, let Rose and KP set the tone and then trust that your shots will come, but first look to get those guys in a rhythm first and foremost.

[NYKHardKnock]

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Dear god -- he looked like a 7'3" Ray Allen on those buckets.

I thought he looked significantly more solid -- more explosive compared to the stick man he was most of last year.

Did any of you notice his release is much more fluid? Last season his release had a more hesitant feel. Shooting with confidence is a very good thing to have. Once PJax gave him the green light to shoot 3s to his heart's content, you know he was shooting with confidence.

My prediction of 18/10/2.5 blks is going to come true!

I dont know if I ever see KP grabbing 10 boards a game. I see anywhere from 6-8 especially this season.

I'm expecting 16/7.5/2BPG

[El Poochio]

Maybe this is where ESPN is basing their predictions off of?

Thats one of the dumbest graphics i have seen. Is there really a big difference between .516 and .478?

Gotta save that shİt and stick it back to them when we finish the season around %50 or above

[MaseInYourFace]

The only thing I did not like was Melo being a black hole. Need to see the Melo from last year, move that ball man. I didn't like him just looking guys off and going into Iso. There were a bunch of times where Holiday cut and was wide up for a layup and he just looked him off. Then again he had a shooter (Holiday?) wide open on the wing and he just went into tunnel vision mode and decided to go 1 on 3 in the paint. We need that mature unselfish Melo, not the ball stopping ball hog.

Yep - same thing stood out to me in terms of Melo approach.

Can see Melo thinking I got a legit PG now so I'm going to get my buckets.

It took about 1 minute and KP's 1st block to realize franchise is in KPs hands now and for long haul -- stay healthy unicorn.

It's only game 1 of preseason and I am not concerned about this going forward, I know Melo is a smart player and will figure this out. Here is what I feel like was the biggest difference between Olympic Melo and Knicks Melo, he trusts the talent on the Olympic team and comes out sharing the ball and waits for the offense to come to him. On the Knicks, he feels like it is his team so he goes out and tries to establish himself first, then he begins to defer to his teammates. I want him to play like he does in the Olympics, he has the talent this year to do trust the other players to make plays and let the offense find him. Often times the Knicks come out and force the ball to Melo and look at him to get them going, I want to see that change. It really needs to work the other way around. He needs to look to get the other guys going first, it will only make the game easier for him because the focus will shift. The reason the Knicks looked better in the 2nd half was because they didn't look to feature Melo, they gave the ball to Rose and Melo was either in the corner or helping KP get free by setting screens for him to curl. They need to let Rose run the show and Melo needs to have trust that his shots will come within the flow. He doesn't need to set the tone, let Rose and KP set the tone and then trust that your shots will come, but first look to get those guys in a rhythm first and foremost.

So funny fans getting mad at Melo already. Some of y'all look at it like why isn't he sharing and why isn't he trying to win the game. He's looking at it like I'm trying to get in rhythm, it is pre-season this is what I do to get going. Don't overreact to a pre-season game folks.

[MaseInYourFace]

Dear god -- he looked like a 7'3" Ray Allen on those buckets.

I thought he looked significantly more solid -- more explosive compared to the stick man he was most of last year.

Did any of you notice his release is much more fluid? Last season his release had a more hesitant feel. Shooting with confidence is a very good thing to have. Once PJax gave him the green light to shoot 3s to his heart's content, you know he was shooting with confidence.

My prediction of 18/10/2.5 blks is going to come true!

I dont know if I ever see KP grabbing 10 boards a game. I see anywhere from 6-8 especially this season.

I'm expecting 16/7.5/2BPG

He's capable especially if he's playing the 5 more which he will this season. But yes he does spend a lot of time on perimeter which of course means less boards. This will especially become a factor if Noah is out. If Noah is out Knicks will rely more on him instead of Joakim to close shooters out.

[Johnny Hoops]

Yep - same thing stood out to me in terms of Melo approach.

Can see Melo thinking I got a legit PG now so I'm going to get my buckets.

It took about 1 minute and KP's 1st block to realize franchise is in KPs hands now and for long haul -- stay healthy unicorn.

It's only game 1 of preseason and I am not concerned about this going forward, I know Melo is a smart player and will figure this out. Here is what I feel like was the biggest difference between Olympic Melo and Knicks Melo, he trusts the talent on the Olympic team and comes out sharing the ball and waits for the offense to come to him. On the Knicks, he feels like it is his team so he goes out and tries to establish himself first, then he begins to defer to his teammates. I want him to play like he does in the Olympics, he has the talent this year to do trust the other players to make plays and let the offense find him. Often times the Knicks come out and force the ball to Melo and look at him to get them going, I want to see that change. It really needs to work the other way around. He needs to look to get the other guys going first, it will only make the game easier for him because the focus will shift. The reason the Knicks looked better in the 2nd half was because they didn't look to feature Melo, they gave the ball to Rose and Melo was either in the corner or helping KP get free by setting screens for him to curl. They need to let Rose run the show and Melo needs to have trust that his shots will come within the flow. He doesn't need to set the tone, let Rose and KP set the tone and then trust that your shots will come, but first look to get those guys in a rhythm first and foremost.

So funny fans getting mad at Melo already. Some of y'all look at it like why isn't he sharing and why isn't he trying to win the game. He's looking at it like I'm trying to get in rhythm. Don't overreact to a pre-season game folks.

Who is mad at Melo?

First poster said he was a black hole last night - that is true. I said the franchise is in KP's hands - that is true.

Melo is Melo -- he will be fine and he will get his points (no question).

[Polk377]

Jennings is so quick with the ball but his jumpshot is so inconsistent. His jumper needs to be simplified a little bit. Get Allan Houston to work with him.

jeff can fix it. I think he jumps too high on his shot, but you're right in that the motion needs some tweaks

He needs to keep the ball in front instead of pulling it back over his head when shooting. It will cut down the motion. speed up his release and make it more consistent.

[MaseInYourFace]

It's only game 1 of preseason and I am not concerned about this going forward, I know Melo is a smart player and will figure this out. Here is what I feel like was the biggest difference between Olympic Melo and Knicks Melo, he trusts the talent on the Olympic team and comes out sharing the ball and waits for the offense to come to him. On the Knicks, he feels like it is his team so he goes out and tries to establish himself first, then he begins to defer to his teammates. I want him to play like he does in the Olympics, he has the talent this year to do trust the other players to make plays and let the offense find him. Often times the Knicks come out and force the ball to Melo and look at him to get them going, I want to see that change. It really needs to work the other way around. He needs to look to get the other guys going first, it will only make the game easier for him because the focus will shift. The reason the Knicks looked better in the 2nd half was because they didn't look to feature Melo, they gave the ball to Rose and Melo was either in the corner or helping KP get free by setting screens for him to curl. They need to let Rose run the show and Melo needs to have trust that his shots will come within the flow. He doesn't need to set the tone, let Rose and KP set the tone and then trust that your shots will come, but first look to get those guys in a rhythm first and foremost.

So funny fans getting mad at Melo already. Some of y'all look at it like why isn't he sharing and why isn't he trying to win the game. He's looking at it like I'm trying to get in rhythm. Don't overreact to a pre-season game folks.

Who is mad at Melo?

First poster said he was a black hole last night - that is true. I said the franchise is in KP's hands - that is true.

Melo is Melo -- he will be fine and he will get his points (no question).

General comment based on some of the stuff I'm seeing already.

[trophywinner]

Bulls fans trying to convince themselves rondo is better than rose HAHAHA

or how about how rose is going to lose the starting spot to jennings

the cope is too real over there