Harrison Barnes

Mr B · Post #301 » by **Mr B** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:14 am

2011Champs wrote:I would love to get Barnes playing really well for a stretch and try to trade him for one of the 76er's bigs. Yeah, I know, put my crack pipe down. Never will happen.

When is Noel's contract up?

Post #302 » by **Dirk** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:48 am

Mr B wrote:
2011Champs wrote:I would love to get Barnes playing really well for a stretch and try to trade him for one of the 76er's bigs. Yeah, I know, put my crack pipe down. Never will happen.

When is Noel's contract up?

Restricted free agent at the end of the season. Eligible for a max contract starting at $23.9 million.

Mr B · Post #303 » by **Mr B** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:13 pm

Dirk Nowitzki wrote:
Mr B wrote:
2011Champs wrote:I would love to get Barnes playing really well for a stretch and try to trade him for one of the 76er's bigs. Yeah, I know, put my crack pipe down. Never will happen.

When is Noel's contract up?

Restricted free agent at the end of the season. Eligible for a max contract starting at $23.9 million.

Well there goes that idea.

dirkules_41 · Post #304 » by **dirkules_41** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:15 pm

Mr B wrote:
Dirk Nowitzki wrote:
Mr B wrote:
When is Noel's contract up?

Restricted free agent at the end of the season. Eligible for a max contract starting at $23.9 million.

Well there goes that idea.

Who isn't eligible for a 20+m max contract these days :lol:

Darren · Post #305 » by **Darren** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 3:27 am

Maybe we start one of Anderson, Curry or Barea in his place to see if it's productive. Barnes is not ready. Then, give a time-off to him to figure out what's happening. He's supposed to be an athlete with strong work ethics. I guess there's some issues mentally which is much deeper than AJ Hammons. The latter looks more ready than expected. That's a pleasant surprise.

Pinkyring · Post #306 » by **Pinkyring** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:52 pm

My hope is to get barnes playing well then move him to Sacramento for rudy gay

2011Champs · Post #307 » by **2011Champs** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:16 pm

Pinkyring wrote:My hope is to get barnes playing well then move him to Sacramento for rudy gay

If Dallas appears to be in playoff contention this would be a good move. If Dallas is in contention for a lotto pick I want to keep Barnes and make him first option on offense and play him 40 minutes a game.

jpengland · Post #308 » by **jpengland** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:54 pm

Barnes is a very average player. He's an OK defender, a pretty average shooter and a great athlete. The big issue is that he's mentally very weak and I stand by the fact that he cost the Warriors the title with his awful finals shooting.

We are going to regret paying him.

SF_Warriors · Post #309 » by **SF_Warriors** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:29 pm

Pinkyring wrote:My hope is to get barnes playing well then move him to Sacramento for rudy gay

Sacramento fans have been through enough.

Post #310 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:44 pm

There was a lot of talk on the Suns forum about whether or not they should go after him, and I didn't really want the Suns to hand out a huge contract to him, but I think it's probably premature to judge how he will fit in with and contribute to the Mavs this year. He's still adjust to a new coach, teammates, city, etc, and used to play with a log of players that made the game easy for him as he wasn't asked to do a lot, so there will be an adjustment period.

Darren · Post #311 » by **Darren** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:37 am

I won't be too surprised that the Mavs may place him on the Texas Legends team for a couple of games. Justin Anderson is much better offensive player than he does. He's not a bad defender either. I could be great for all parties involved. Perhaps the Mavs is able to show case Wes to land them Noel. And they can two capable starters at 2 and 3 after that. Putting 4 players who can't create off dribble together is a pretty bad idea. I expect the Mavs to struggle if they continue to do that. From the preseason game, it's that simply. The opponent team makes DWill a shooter instead of distributor. And the Mavs is forced to post up Dirk and burn his legs with inefficient shooting percentage. However, his percentage is still better than the rest of starting lineup. That's a serious problem. I expect JJ to start at 2 with Curry being a rotation backup combo guard.

FakerRules · Post #312 » by **FakerRules** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:11 am

Darren wrote:I won't be too surprised that the Mavs may place him on the Texas Legends team for a couple of games. Justin Anderson is much better offensive player than he does. He's not a bad defender either. I could be great for all parties involved. Perhaps the Mavs is able to show case Wes to land them Noel. And they can two capable starters at 2 and 3 after that. Putting 4 players who can't create off dribble together is a pretty bad idea. I expect the Mavs to struggle if they continue to do that. From the preseason game, it's that simply. The opponent team makes DWill a shooter instead of distributor. And the Mavs is forced to post up Dirk and burn his legs with inefficient shooting percentage. However, his percentage is still better than the rest of starting lineup. That's a serious problem. I expect JJ to start at 2 with Curry being a rotation backup combo guard.

Texas Legends!???? Are you serious :banghead:

Darren · Post #313 » by **Darren** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:01 am

FakerRules wrote:
Darren wrote:I won't be too surprised that the Mavs may place him on the Texas Legends team for a couple of games. Justin Anderson is much better offensive player than he does. He's not a bad defender either. I could be great for all parties involved. Perhaps the Mavs is able to show case Wes to land them Noel. And they can two capable starters at 2 and 3 after that. Putting 4 players who can't create off dribble together is a pretty bad idea. I expect the Mavs to struggle if they continue to do that. From the preseason game, it's that simply. The opponent team makes DWill a shooter instead of distributor. And the Mavs is forced to post up Dirk and burn his legs with inefficient shooting percentage. However, his percentage is still better than the rest of starting lineup. That's a serious problem. I expect JJ to start at 2 with Curry being a rotation backup combo guard.

Texas Legends!???? Are you serious

If he keeps playing this way, he's not even better than Durant-Finley-Smith. Should we just play him because he makes 24M per?

Post #314 » by **Dirk** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:33 am

Darren wrote:
If he keeps playing this way, he's not even better than Durant-Finley-Smith. Should we just play him because he makes 24M per?

If he were to struggle badly, Carlisle would keep playing him and find ways to help him. He has been in the league for four years. What is the more true representation, those four years or pre-season games?

Exactly. The four years.

If anyone looks around the league, they will find several examples of good players with terrible fg %s. For instance, Paul George 36%.

With so many real games to come, there's plenty of time to form a more valid opinion.

2011Champs · Post #315 » by **2011Champs** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:06 pm

Harrison Barnes will be ok but Dallas needs to scrap running plays for him. I really would rather him be an efficient 7ppg 3reb guy than an inefficient 13ppg.

Devassa · Post #316 » by **Devassa** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:27 pm

Phoenix would be a good destination for him... it would likely mean Tyson comes back for a third reunion though lol

Torgeir Bryn · Post #317 » by **Torgeir Bryn** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:31 pm

Barnes is clearly struggling with his confidence. I doubt putting him in the D-League will help much with that.

Post #318 » by **Texas Chuck** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:11 pm

He's never going to the D League. Dallas would never embarrass him like that plus with his tenure he would simply refuse to go.

The horrible knee-jerks should probably at least wait until we've played one actual game....

2011Champs · Post #319 » by **2011Champs** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:35 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
The horrible knee-jerks should probably at least wait until we've played one actual game....

No, the knee jerk reactions keep things interesting. Not too much longer until first game where Monta drops 40 on us.

Torgeir Bryn · Post #320 » by **Torgeir Bryn** » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:28 am

Texas Chuck wrote:He's never going to the D League. Dallas would never embarrass him like that plus with his tenure he would simply refuse to go.

The horrible knee-jerks should probably at least wait until we've played one actual game....

Who knew, he could actually play...