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Re: Detroit Pistons - Impossible trading partners? 

Post#41 » by Liqourish » Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:13 am

Spider156 wrote:There's a lot of rumors about John Wall getting traded to Detroit for Reggie Jackson. I'm pretty sure we'd have to give up more like Harris or a first round pick. Would be nice to get the Morris twin back too. I'm all for this because I'm not sure Reggie can get any better if he continues to not show effort on defense.

http://www.itechpost.com/articles/33070/20160926/nba-trade-rumors-john-wall-detroit-pistons-conflict-wizards-teammate.htm


The article doesn't mention trading Reggie Jackson, it says Tobias and Bullock. I wouldn't trade Tobias for Wall. Wall has a long injury history, expects to be maxed out, and isn't a good fit for our team.
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Post#42 » by Pharaoh » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:11 am

There's nothing to the rumour of Wall coming to Detroit

We're not trading RJ + assets for the slight upgrade

What we need are shooters. Either our guys improve or we make some minor moves IMO

There will be no blockbuster trade for us. We've essebtially got our 10 locked up:

Dre / Boban
Harris /Jon / King
Mook / SJ
KCP
RJ/Ish

Vet shooters on the wings is what we need

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Re: Detroit Pistons - Impossible trading partners? 

Post#43 » by flow » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:17 am

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Spider156 wrote:There's a lot of rumors about John Wall getting traded to Detroit for Reggie Jackson. I'm pretty sure we'd have to give up more like Harris or a first round pick. Would be nice to get the Morris twin back too. I'm all for this because I'm not sure Reggie can get any better if he continues to not show effort on defense.

http://www.itechpost.com/articles/33070/20160926/nba-trade-rumors-john-wall-detroit-pistons-conflict-wizards-teammate.htm


The article doesn't mention trading Reggie Jackson, it says Tobias and Bullock. I wouldn't trade Tobias for Wall. Wall has a long injury history, expects to be maxed out, and isn't a good fit for our team.


Harris & Bullock for Wall? RJ stays on the team and goes to the bench? It's where he belongs, but he'd raise hell. It'd be OKC all over again.

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Re: Detroit Pistons - Impossible trading partners? 

Post#44 » by DBC10 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:46 am

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Liqourish wrote:
Spider156 wrote:There's a lot of rumors about John Wall getting traded to Detroit for Reggie Jackson. I'm pretty sure we'd have to give up more like Harris or a first round pick. Would be nice to get the Morris twin back too. I'm all for this because I'm not sure Reggie can get any better if he continues to not show effort on defense.

http://www.itechpost.com/articles/33070/20160926/nba-trade-rumors-john-wall-detroit-pistons-conflict-wizards-teammate.htm


The article doesn't mention trading Reggie Jackson, it says Tobias and Bullock. I wouldn't trade Tobias for Wall. Wall has a long injury history, expects to be maxed out, and isn't a good fit for our team.


Harris & Bullock for Wall? RJ stays on the team and goes to the bench? It's where he belongs, but he'd raise hell. It'd be OKC all over again.

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Yuck. I like Tobias as a versatile player. I'd do RJ + Bullock + Hilliard and maybe even throw in Mook instead of Bullock to reunite the twins again and let Brooks deal with that twin saga. Mook's the most valuable asset we may have due to his contract.
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Re: Detroit Pistons - Impossible trading partners? 

Post#45 » by Pharaoh » Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:05 pm

WTF?

You're willing to give up RJ & Mook for Wall?

So the difference between RJ & Wall is somehow one of the best contractsin the entire league?

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Post#46 » by joedumars1 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:06 pm

Pharaoh wrote:WTF?

You're willing to give up RJ & Mook for Wall?

So the difference between RJ & Wall is somehow one of the best contractsin the entire league?

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Agree! I don't want Wall at all. He can't shoot three's. He seems like a ME guy. Anyone want to give me Wall stats in the first game?
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Post#47 » by bstein14 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:52 pm

I'd give up Jackson + Baynes + Future first for Wall. Wall is a better player, plain and simple. Baynes is almost certainly gone at the end of the year and will likely get $10+ million from someone. I expect our draft pick will be in the early 20's so its a minimal loss to upgrade our starting PG to an all-star.
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Post#48 » by joedumars1 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:25 pm

bstein14 wrote:I'd give up Jackson + Baynes + Future first for Wall. Wall is a better player, plain and simple. Baynes is almost certainly gone at the end of the year and will likely get $10+ million from someone. I expect our draft pick will be in the early 20's so its a minimal loss to upgrade our starting PG to an all-star.

Is he really that much better than RJ (pretty close to a all-star in my eye, also one of the most clutch players in the 4 quarter last year)? I truly believeWall is a me first guy too. I don't want or like players like that. Wall is about to get paid $10million more than RJ too. Is it worth it? No
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Post#49 » by MotownMadness » Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:00 pm

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bstein14 wrote:I'd give up Jackson + Baynes + Future first for Wall. Wall is a better player, plain and simple. Baynes is almost certainly gone at the end of the year and will likely get $10+ million from someone. I expect our draft pick will be in the early 20's so its a minimal loss to upgrade our starting PG to an all-star.

Is he really that much better than RJ (pretty close to a all-star in my eye, also one of the most clutch players in the 4 quarter last year)? I truly believeWall is a me first guy too. I don't want or like players like that. Wall is about to get paid $10million more than RJ too. Is it worth it? No

He's still pretty far ahead of RJ cause he plays good defense as well. He's basically a 20 and 10 player with good defense.
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Post#50 » by Liqourish » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:51 am

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joedumars1 wrote:
bstein14 wrote:I'd give up Jackson + Baynes + Future first for Wall. Wall is a better player, plain and simple. Baynes is almost certainly gone at the end of the year and will likely get $10+ million from someone. I expect our draft pick will be in the early 20's so its a minimal loss to upgrade our starting PG to an all-star.

Is he really that much better than RJ (pretty close to a all-star in my eye, also one of the most clutch players in the 4 quarter last year)? I truly believeWall is a me first guy too. I don't want or like players like that. Wall is about to get paid $10million more than RJ too. Is it worth it? No

He's still pretty far ahead of RJ cause he plays good defense as well. He's basically a 20 and 10 player with good defense.


He's had one season even close to 20 & 10 while trying to play for his next contract, and not playing well with his teammates. The situation in the locker room is so bad, Wizards are constantly rumored to be actively seeking trades for their "20 and 10 player with good defense". Reggie might not put up 20 & 10, but he puts up all star numbers, while playing within his team, and more efficiently. He's also on a better contract for the team than the one Wall is expecting.

Don't get me wrong, John Wall is a very good player. But he's a bad fit for our young, impressible team and will want more money than we can afford to give him. Giving up multiple assets for him is a terrible idea.
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Re: Detroit Pistons - Impossible trading partners? 

Post#51 » by tmorgan » Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:22 pm

John Wall is definitely a bit of a bitch, just like his homie Cousins.
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Post#52 » by Pharaoh » Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:59 pm

I honestly don't understand how anyone can argue for handing over assets to upgrade from RJ to Wall.

RJ fits with Dre, we were awesome with the PnR...but we're gonna move RJ?

How about we get a mobile defensive dude to play PF so Dre has some legit help on D?

How about we get an actual shooter at SG?

Nah man that blows! We need a new PG! WTF?

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Post#53 » by Kilo » Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:34 pm

These weird rumors come from anywhere, there was a rumor on Sportingnews.au that had Detroit and SA talking Mook Morris for Justin Anderson and Patty Mills near the end of pre-season.
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Post#54 » by coordinator0 » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:19 pm

Kilo wrote:These weird rumors come from anywhere, there was a rumor on Sportingnews.au that had Detroit and SA talking Mook Morris for Justin Anderson and Patty Mills near the end of pre-season.


Justin Anderson plays for Dallas. Would have been interesting to see what a three-team deal involving those players would have looked like though.
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Post#55 » by zeebneeb » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:27 pm

Pharaoh wrote:I honestly don't understand how anyone can argue for handing over assets to upgrade from RJ to Wall.

RJ fits with Dre, we were awesome with the PnR...but we're gonna move RJ?

How about we get a mobile defensive dude to play PF so Dre has some legit help on D?

How about we get an actual shooter at SG?

Nah man that blows! We need a new PG! WTF?

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Drummond
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That's how you upgrade.
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Post#56 » by Kilo » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:07 pm

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Kilo wrote:These weird rumors come from anywhere, there was a rumor on Sportingnews.au that had Detroit and SA talking Mook Morris for Justin Anderson and Patty Mills near the end of pre-season.


Justin Anderson plays for Dallas. Would have been interesting to see what a three-team deal involving those players would have looked like though.


Whatever Anderson plays for the Spurs at PF. Is it Kyle Anderson? Anyways PF Anderson and PG Mills for SF/PF Morris was the rumor.
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Re: Detroit Pistons - Impossible trading partners? 

Post#57 » by coordinator0 » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:37 pm

Kilo wrote:
coordinator0 wrote:
Kilo wrote:These weird rumors come from anywhere, there was a rumor on Sportingnews.au that had Detroit and SA talking Mook Morris for Justin Anderson and Patty Mills near the end of pre-season.


Justin Anderson plays for Dallas. Would have been interesting to see what a three-team deal involving those players would have looked like though.


Whatever Anderson plays for the Spurs at PF. Is it Kyle Anderson? Anyways PF Anderson and PG Mills for SF/PF Morris was the rumor.


Ah, that changes the dynamics quite a bit then. At least Justin Anderson is in that defensive SG/SF mold who can shoot it from the outside. I don't think Kyle Anderson would make much sense for Detroit. Doesn't bring anything to the table defensively and has a very specific niche offensively. And he's limited to power forward, where the Pistons are set even without Morris/Harris being pushed to small forward. I like Mills as a sparkplug off the bench but Marcus has been too valuable and is on too good of a contract for that kind of deal to be made. Hopefully it was just random fodder from Sporting News.

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