Zeller - signs 4 year 56 million extension

Post #1 » by **JDR720** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:16 pm

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 2m2 minutes ago

Others in talks on four-year extensions include Minnesota's Shabazz Muhammad and Gorgui Dieng and Charlotte's Cody Zeller.

Post #2 » by **JDR720** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:18 pm

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 10m10 minutes ago

Sources: OKC engaged with Steven Adams, Victor Oladipo reps on rookie extension talks. Discussing Adams $100M-range, Oladipo $80M-range.

so Cody in the 60m range? ew

chabber · Post #3 » by **chabber** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:19 pm

Yes! I was starting to get a little worried.

Flip Murray · Post #4 » by **Flip Murray** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:21 pm

JDR720 wrote:Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 10m10 minutes ago

Sources: OKC engaged with Steven Adams, Victor Oladipo reps on rookie extension talks. Discussing Adams $100M-range, Oladipo $80M-range.

so Cody in the 60m range? ew

Cody in 60 million range would be solid. 4 years 60 would be fine with me

HornetJail · Post #5 » by **HornetJail** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:27 pm

If we can get Zeller on the same contract we got Marvin Williams on I'll be happy. 4/60 is on the high end of what I'd consider a decent contract.

Post #6 » by **fatlever** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:09 pm

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 44m44 minutes ago
Rivals know these players would get offer sheets matched by original teams in RFA, but several watching Zeller talks closely and here's why:

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 41m41 minutes ago
If no Zeller extension, teams may be aggressive on offer sheets. Many privately wonder how far Michael Jordan will take Charlotte payroll.

Post #7 » by **fatlever** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:11 pm

not surprising, but twitter reactions to Zeller possibly getting big deal are all negative. Everyone just sees a goofy white dude who doesn't put up big stats.

Post #8 » by **JDR720** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:13 pm

fatlever wrote:
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 44m44 minutes ago
Rivals know these players would get offer sheets matched by original teams in RFA, but several watching Zeller talks closely and here's why:

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 41m41 minutes ago
If no Zeller extension, teams may be aggressive on offer sheets. Many privately wonder how far Michael Jordan will take Charlotte payroll.

so basically they think MJ is going to be cheap. understandable, small market non-contenders cant have that big a payroll.

catch20two · Post #9 » by **catch20two** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:26 pm

We're not the deepest of teams and after the way this past offseason went where we loss more talent than we added I don't blame MJ for just biting the bullet now since Cody is a valuable piece to what we do since he runs like a deer, has a great motor, constantly set screens, and has good defensive awareness.

Flip Murray · Post #10 » by **Flip Murray** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:34 pm

fatlever wrote:not surprising, but twitter reactions to Zeller possibly getting big deal are all negative. Everyone just sees a goofy white dude who doesn't put up big stats.

people on twitter are **** stupid. Watch the offer sheet he signs

Liver_Pooty · Post #11 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:45 pm

Just get the damn deal done.

Post #12 » by **yosemiteben** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:39 pm

The issue with Zeller has nothing to do with MJ being willing to spend and much more with managing our cap space. If he wants an extension significantly higher than his cap hold, then we should pass on the extension, use the space on a FA, then just match whatever we have to to keep him.

bravor · Post #13 » by **bravor** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:00 pm

The main problem is that having Cody here is fine, but not necessary as the main center. He would arguably be the best rotation at 5 in the league, and a perfect back up in case of injury.
Yet, the game changing center will require some money to throw at, its unlikely that the Hornets will find a hibbert like contract for the defensive anchor they need here during next offseason.

Mystical Apples · Post #14 » by **Mystical Apples** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:52 pm

All things being equal 5's that can defend 4's should be compensated above face value. Case in point playing next to Hawes with Frank out, starting next to Marvin when Roy sat.

And definitely not a small thing during the playoffs when rotations shorten. His versatility could be the difference between getting starter level production or being forced into deeper rotation minutes.

Sauce_Castillo · Post #15 » by **Sauce_Castillo** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:13 am

bravor wrote:The main problem is that having Cody here is fine, but not necessary as the main center. He would arguably be the best rotation at 5 in the league, and a perfect back up in case of injury.
Yet, the game changing center will require some money to throw at, its unlikely that the Hornets will find a hibbert like contract for the defensive anchor they need here during next offseason.

Disagree completely I think Cody could 100% be starting center of contending team. It's not like there is more than 10 good centers out there anyway.

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HornetJail · Post #16 » by **HornetJail** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:30 am

Sauce_Castillo wrote:
bravor wrote:The main problem is that having Cody here is fine, but not necessary as the main center. He would arguably be the best rotation at 5 in the league, and a perfect back up in case of injury.
Yet, the game changing center will require some money to throw at, its unlikely that the Hornets will find a hibbert like contract for the defensive anchor they need here during next offseason.

Disagree completely I think Cody could 100% be starting center of contending team. It's not like there is more than 10 good centers out there anyway.

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Drummond
Howard
Horford
Cousins
Jordan
Gobert
Whiteside
Towns
Adams
Lopez
and that's not even close to all of them. Let's not pretend Zeller is in the same league as any of them

Sauce_Castillo · Post #17 » by **Sauce_Castillo** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:36 am

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
Sauce_Castillo wrote:
bravor wrote:The main problem is that having Cody here is fine, but not necessary as the main center. He would arguably be the best rotation at 5 in the league, and a perfect back up in case of injury.
Yet, the game changing center will require some money to throw at, its unlikely that the Hornets will find a hibbert like contract for the defensive anchor they need here during next offseason.

Disagree completely I think Cody could 100% be starting center of contending team. It's not like there is more than 10 good centers out there anyway.

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Drummond
Howard
Horford
Cousins
Jordan
Gobert
Whiteside
Towns
Adams
Lopez
and that's not even close to all of them. Let's not pretend Zeller is in the same league as any of them

I'm not saying that, all I said was that Cody could be the starting center of a contending team. All 10 of those players you named are not on teams that have a likely chance of winning the title, some even are going to struggle to make the playoffs.

I don't think it's unfathomable for Cody to have a Tristan Thompson like impact on the game at the high end of his projection.

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SWedd523 · Post #18 » by **SWedd523** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:51 am

Not to pick and choose, but you'd be hard pressed to get me to agree that Howard, Adams, and either Lopez are any more valuable than Cody is at this point.

Post #19 » by **fatlever** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:07 am

SWedd523 wrote:Not to pick and choose, but you'd be hard pressed to get me to agree that Howard, Adams, and either Lopez are any more valuable than Cody is at this point.

Adams is rumored to be in talks for a 100 million contract. We better hope Cody isn't as valuable as Adams.

Braggins · Post #20 » by **Braggins** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:20 am

yosemiteben wrote:The issue with Zeller has nothing to do with MJ being willing to spend and much more with managing our cap space. If he wants an extension significantly higher than his cap hold, then we should pass on the extension, use the space on a FA, then just match whatever we have to to keep him.

Good point. Whats his cap hold?