So how about Joel Embiid

eskimo · Post #781 » by **eskimo** » Sun Nov 6, 2016 4:18 pm

TMU wrote:Anyone else surprised that he's able to hit threes? Truly a rare breed. Dude is still a rookie but he has no real weakness in his game. Hopefully the kid can stay healthy for a long time.

Yes and no.

Hardcore Sixers fans are aware of him hitting about 60-70% of his 3 point shots in some of his practice sessions over a decent volume of shots.

Having said that, not everyone can translate that into in-game shooting so it is a big surprise in terms of how quickly it has happened.

He still hasn't shot a huge volume and I don't expect him to keep up his present efficiency out there but just the threat of him out there will give team's headaches. With his size and ability to finish above the rim, contested mid-range and open 3's he's going to kill teams once he learns how to set better picks.

lorak · Post #782 » by **lorak** » Sun Nov 6, 2016 7:41 pm

By my count Embiid is defensive monster so far. Opponents are just 26/70 FG (37.1%) vs Joel. That includes Westbrook with 0/3 vs him, LeBron with 2/7 or Dwight&Millsap with 1/6.

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dautjazz · Post #783 » by **dautjazz** » Sun Nov 6, 2016 7:49 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
dautjazz wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:And I say again that I think Embiid has a chance to be arguably the greatest center ever if he can stay healthy and play starters minutes.

Really? As if Kareem, Wilt, Russell, Shaq, etc.. just paled in comparison their rookie season? Towns and Embiid are being really overrated.

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Those other guys played basketball their entire lives unlike Embiid. Embiid still has so much room to grow. Embiid is a beast.

Oh excuse me.

sixerswillrule · Post #784 » by **sixerswillrule** » Sun Nov 6, 2016 7:53 pm

dautjazz wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:
dautjazz wrote:Really? As if Kareem, Wilt, Russell, Shaq, etc.. just paled in comparison their rookie season? Towns and Embiid are being really overrated.

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Those other guys played basketball their entire lives unlike Embiid. Embiid still has so much room to grow. Embiid is a beast.

Oh excuse me.

Please don't see fans like that as a representation of the entire Sixer fanbase.

Unbreakable99 · Post #785 » by **Unbreakable99** » Sun Nov 6, 2016 7:59 pm

sixerswillrule wrote:
dautjazz wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:
Those other guys played basketball their entire lives unlike Embiid. Embiid still has so much room to grow. Embiid is a beast.

Oh excuse me.

Please don't see fans like as a representation of the entire Sixer fanbase.

So you're saying Embiid played the as long as those other greats before he got to the NBA? Come on man. Embiid has only played like 3 years. He's behind all those others at the same age but he still dominating.

tsmith · Post #786 » by **tsmith** » Sun Nov 6, 2016 10:20 pm

robbie84 wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:
robbie84 wrote:Why do other rookie threads bet locked and told 'go to rookie discussion thread' and this staus in general?

Because Embiid is in his own category. There's rookies. Then there's the beast that is Embiid.

Great homer reasoning. Not a dig at embid but there are some other rookies playing great too and any threads created about discussing them get locked.
Mods are so hypocritical at times.

No rookie is playing near the level embiid is

Mik317 · Post #787 » by **Mik317** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 3:53 am

robbie84 wrote:Why do other rookie threads bet locked and told 'go to rookie discussion thread' and this staus in general?

dude was hurt for two years and is now putting up numbers not even the biggest sixer homer could think he'd do so soon. Its a big deal. A lot of people thought he'd never play again FFS.

also I am also sure if other rookies were doing something out the ordinary, they'd have threads too

Big_Aristotle · Post #788 » by **Big_Aristotle** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 8:24 am

Have to say I'm impressed with Embiid. Size, strength, very athletic and outside shooting.... Are we finally back to having great centers in the league now Embiid and KAT arrived.

If Simmons and Embiid stay healthy, would be interesting to see how the 76ers look like in 2 years.

atlantabbq99 · Post #789 » by **atlantabbq99** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 9:04 am

Embiid is a pretty bad at rebounding, as bad as a rebounder as Brook Lopez.

ThumbsUpBaby · Post #790 » by **ThumbsUpBaby** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 9:06 am

Look, at this point all we need to do is cross our fingers and hope that he stays healthy for the rest of his career. If not, we're seriously going to lose one of the biggest "one-ifs" situations and his talents will be taken from us.

ThumbsUpBaby · Post #791 » by **ThumbsUpBaby** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 9:11 am

atlantabbq99 wrote:Embiid is a pretty bad at rebounding, as bad as a rebounder as Brook Lopez.

... Uh what? Dude is averaging 10.2 RPG per 30 and has a TRPG% of 15.6. Brook Lopez, 10.6.

jpengland · Post #792 » by **jpengland** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 9:11 am

atlantabbq99 wrote:Embiid is a pretty bad at rebounding, as bad as a rebounder as Brook Lopez.

10.2 per 36 is far from bad. And around 2.5 more than Brook Lopez last year.

nurseryc · Post #793 » by **nurseryc** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 11:54 am

atlantabbq99 wrote:Embiid is a pretty bad at rebounding, as bad as a rebounder as Brook Lopez.

Not as bad a Brandon Ingram. Check out his averages for someone 6ft9

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maisenza13 · Post #794 » by **maisenza13** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 12:34 pm

if the health is with hime, we'll watch great shows

Ericb5 · Post #795 » by **Ericb5** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 1:17 pm

Big_Aristotle wrote:Have to say I'm impressed with Embiid. Size, strength, very athletic and outside shooting.... Are we finally back to having great centers in the league now Embiid and KAT arrived.

If Simmons and Embiid stay healthy, would be interesting to see how the 76ers look like in 2 years.

Why do people keep including KAT in the discussion of centers? He isn't a center. He is a power forward. Embiid has about 5 inches of reach on him.

He may be playing center because of how bad the center position is these days, but he isn't a center. He should be compared to players like Anthony Davis, Chris Webber, and Kevin Garnett.

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Unbreakable99 · Post #796 » by **Unbreakable99** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 1:25 pm

atlantabbq99 wrote:Embiid is a pretty bad at rebounding, as bad as a rebounder as Brook Lopez.

Lol. This is a completely false statement. Stop just looking at boxscores.

mtron929 · Post #797 » by **mtron929** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 1:28 pm

One story that hasn't been covered too much is the impact of Embiid on the mindsets of Noel and Okafor. These guys see one another a lot in practice and there is no doubt in mind that a 22 year Noel and a 20 year old Okafor are pretty much in awe at a guy who is pretty much playing competing for the same position. I mean, Noel and Okafor were once seen as one of the best prospects in the entire nation (predicted to be #1 overall picks at some point) and now they see a guy who is potentially two or three tiers above them.

If I were to guess, I would not be surprised if Noel is pretty much depressed right now. He wants his 100 million dollar contract and he realizes that he just will not get much playing time with the Sixers this year with the way Embiid is performing. And he realizes that there is nothing he can do to become better at Embiid.

On the other hand, I would not be surprised if Okafor is a bit humbled (not necessary even sure if that is good, but it is what it is). He seems to have bought in the idea that Embiid is better than him but he wants to still stick around.

Unbreakable99 · Post #798 » by **Unbreakable99** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 1:28 pm

Embiid plays tonight against Gobert. Gobert is arguably the best defensive center. This should be a good match for Embiid. If he can dominate Gobert then I'll be even more impressed.

Unbreakable99 · Post #799 » by **Unbreakable99** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 1:35 pm

mtron929 wrote:One story that hasn't been covered too much is the impact of Embiid on the mindsets of Noel and Okafor. These guys see one another a lot in practice and there is no doubt in mind that a 22 year Noel and a 20 year old Okafor are pretty much in awe at a guy who is pretty much playing competing for the same position. I mean, Noel and Okafor were once seen as one of the best prospects in the entire nation (predicted to be #1 overall picks at some point) and now they see a guy who is potentially two or three tiers above them.

If I were to guess, I would not be surprised if Noel is pretty much depressed right now. He wants his 100 million dollar contract and he realizes that he just will not get much playing time with the Sixers this year with the way Embiid is performing. And he realizes that there is nothing he can do to become better at Embiid.

On the other hand, I would not be surprised if Okafor is a bit humbled (not necessary even sure if that is good, but it is what it is). He seems to have bought in the idea that Embiid is better than him but he wants to still stick around.

Pretty much. Noel wants out. I still would love to have him if he wanted to stay and would rather trade Okafor but that seems unlikely. Okafor seems to have bought in and seems to be ok with coming off the bench. Noel just seems to want out.

HotelVitale · Post #800 » by **HotelVitale** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 1:37 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
atlantabbq99 wrote:Embiid is a pretty bad at rebounding, as bad as a rebounder as Brook Lopez.
Lol. This is a completely false statement. Stop just looking at boxscores.

Yeah, he's clearly solid at rebounding. His effort isn't always there right now, but the relatively low #s--which aren't that low--are mostly the result of a very small sample size of just 4 games on restricted minutes.

I'm guessing atlbbq didn't notice that, to get his 19/6, Embiid is only playing 22mpg. He's putting up Lopez's #s in just those 22 minutes--and posting a ridiculous 30/10 and 5 blocks per 36.