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Game 12: New Orleans Pelicans (2-9) @ Orlando Magic (4-7) - 7:00 PM ET

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Re: Game 12: New Orleans Pelicans (2-9) @ Orlando Magic (4-7) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#461 » by Orlwillbeback » Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:48 pm

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GortatExpress wrote:How desperate has the Magic fanbase become that we are hoping for Jodie Meeks coming back from injury?
Back in the Gabriel days we were hoping for Grant Hill back. In the Otis Smith days we were hoping Dwights back would be ok or Rashard's ankle was healthy.

Now we are praying for the return of a NBA journeyman. If this doesn't sum up Hennigan's destruction of the Orlando Magic, nothing else can.


All on hennigan. ALL OF IT. You can only blame coaching so much. 4 coaches later and the team still blows. Ownership has shown willingness to spend money. It's all Hennigan. Hopefully when he goes, so will his cronies.


I think Martins deserves blame too but I'll admit I don't really know how much influence he has over the basketball decisions. If he has absolutely zero input then sure it's all on Hennigan but if not then certainly he deserves blame as well.

Martins made the decision to hire Hennigan over more experienced candidates but he chose Hennigan because Henny was the best candidiate:
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"We felt that Rob set himself apart from the other finalists with his vision, with his approach towards process and procedure, his detailed plan for building a successful basketball operation and a strong focus on innovation in so many parts of the basketball operation," Martins said.

"Whether it's a holistic approach towards player development or the utilization of analytics in the decision-making process of player personnel, Rob brings a great deal of innovation to the role. And we feel that it will allow us to build a basketball operation that will be sustainable in its success for a long period of time."
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Re: Game 12: New Orleans Pelicans (2-9) @ Orlando Magic (4-7) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#462 » by NEM » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:10 pm

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NEM wrote:
GortatExpress wrote:How desperate has the Magic fanbase become that we are hoping for Jodie Meeks coming back from injury?
Back in the Gabriel days we were hoping for Grant Hill back. In the Otis Smith days we were hoping Dwights back would be ok or Rashard's ankle was healthy.

Now we are praying for the return of a NBA journeyman. If this doesn't sum up Hennigan's destruction of the Orlando Magic, nothing else can.


All on hennigan. ALL OF IT. You can only blame coaching so much. 4 coaches later and the team still blows. Ownership has shown willingness to spend money. It's all Hennigan. Hopefully when he goes, so will his cronies.


I think Martins deserves blame too but I'll admit I don't really know how much influence he has over the basketball decisions. If he has absolutely zero input then sure it's all on Hennigan but if not then certainly he deserves blame as well.

Martins made the decision to hire Hennigan over more experienced candidates but he chose Hennigan because Henny was the best candidiate:
[url]
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-06-20/sports/os-orlando-magic-gm-rob-hennigan-0621-20120620_1_rob-hennigan-magic-s-gm-alex-martins[/url]

"We felt that Rob set himself apart from the other finalists with his vision, with his approach towards process and procedure, his detailed plan for building a successful basketball operation and a strong focus on innovation in so many parts of the basketball operation," Martins said.

"Whether it's a holistic approach towards player development or the utilization of analytics in the decision-making process of player personnel, Rob brings a great deal of innovation to the role. And we feel that it will allow us to build a basketball operation that will be sustainable in its success for a long period of time."


He was the best candidate that would ensure that the team would suck aka tank for the next few years. Also why Vaughn was hired. Once we transitioned into trying to make the playoffs, Vaughn was fired. We are a year and a half removed from that and this team seems no better. Time to move on from Hennigan and onto a GM who can build a playoff team.
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Re: Game 12: New Orleans Pelicans (2-9) @ Orlando Magic (4-7) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#463 » by Orlwillbeback » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:16 pm

NEM wrote:He was the best candidate that would ensure that the team would suck aka tank for the next few years. Also why Vaughn was hired. Once we transitioned into trying to make the playoffs, Vaughn was fired. We are a year and a half removed from that and this team seems no better. Time to move on from Hennigan and onto a GM who can build a playoff team.


I agree, I just think we shouldnt stop there, I say we fire Martins too.
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Re: Game 12: New Orleans Pelicans (2-9) @ Orlando Magic (4-7) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#464 » by NEM » Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:14 pm

Orlwillbeback wrote:
NEM wrote:He was the best candidate that would ensure that the team would suck aka tank for the next few years. Also why Vaughn was hired. Once we transitioned into trying to make the playoffs, Vaughn was fired. We are a year and a half removed from that and this team seems no better. Time to move on from Hennigan and onto a GM who can build a playoff team.


I agree, I just think we shouldnt stop there, I say we fire Martins too.


I wouldn't mind getting rid of his greasy ass too but that won't happen seeing how he's largely responsible for the arena we have and in turn the magic still being in Orlando. He was fine in his previous role as a PR guy. Can't have a non basketball guy running the basketball side of things.
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Re: Game 12: New Orleans Pelicans (2-9) @ Orlando Magic (4-7) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#465 » by basketballRob » Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:53 pm

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Gordon wrote:If Mario and AG were future stars, they would show atleast glimpses of it by now. Neither of them is dynamic enough off the dribble to be a featured player on offense.


I'm willing to give them at least until 22. Compaing to other young players at the same age.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/georgpa01.html


21 year old Paul George was soooo much better than Mario

I have a bad feeling that Mario is going to be a complete bust and leave us for Europe but I really hope he proves me wrong and can atleast turn into a rotation guy one day.


I'm will to give him another year, Paul George grew up in the United States which may of helped him adjust some.
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Re: Game 12: New Orleans Pelicans (2-9) @ Orlando Magic (4-7) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#466 » by Dennis Reynolds » Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:25 am

LMAO, this thread is hilarious.

Really glad that pretty much everybody seems to agree there's nothing positive about this win and the direction of our team. If only our FO could realize that. :nonono:
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Re: Game 12: New Orleans Pelicans (2-9) @ Orlando Magic (4-7) - 7:00 PM ET 

Post#467 » by basketballRob » Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:33 am

This board is so negative I hate coming here sometimes because all of the severe overreactions, it's hilarious in way.

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