2016-17 Rookie Watch thread

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Who will make the All Rookie 1st Team?

Brogdon
100
19%
Brown
25
5%
Chriss
43
8%
Embiid
94
18%
Ferrell
5
1%
WILLY Hernangomez
36
7%
Hield
64
12%
Ingram
14
3%
Murray
39
7%
Saric
106
20%
 
Total votes: 526

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Re: Talk To Me About Davis Bertans 

Post#541 » by B-Ball Freak » Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:20 pm

Another player made to look great by the legendary Spurs system, it seems like every year there is one.
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Re: Talk To Me About Davis Bertans 

Post#542 » by r0drig0lac » Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:35 pm

el13adnino wrote:shoots like korver?

Yes, it's like a taller and athletic Korver
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Re: Talk To Me About Davis Bertans 

Post#543 » by Chinook » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:00 pm

He's a much better shooter than Kristaps (which isn't an insult to KP), but he's not anywhere near the level of big man. He's not just a shooter, and he wasn't in Europe. He's great in transition because he's long and athletic. He knows how to finish at the rim. He'll eventually start to get back-door lobs to counter people overplaying the shot.

On D, the dude doesn't have great lateral quickness nor a great understanding on how to defend on the perimeter. He's an excellent help defender, though. He's going to have to eventually become a full-time big, boarding better and being able to defend in the post. Issue is that with his knee injuries, he may not be able to put on enough weight.
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Re: Talk To Me About Davis Bertans 

Post#544 » by Sofia » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:06 pm

saritasbora wrote:
sanitylaker wrote:This dude is shooting 47% from 3p this season as rookie LOL :lol:


Imagine what he could do if he didn't have a missing finger.

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Re: Talk To Me About Davis Bertans 

Post#545 » by suckfish » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:11 pm

Makes me laugh when people say he's just a big shooter... Yeah he's 6ft freakin 10 with elite shooting mechanics, knows how to be a role player and has tremendous feel for the game.

That's significant as hell!
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Re: Talk To Me About Davis Bertans 

Post#546 » by mixerball » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:17 pm

B-Ball Freak wrote:Another player made to look great by the legendary Spurs system, it seems like every year there is one.

oversimplifying things.

no, they are looking for good players with great attitudes that can fill in the roles on the court. spurs are never looking for "stars". he was good before and is now showing it. even more so in the right system.

he was a good player with great potential but then he blew his knee. twice. that put some breaks on his career
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Re: Talk To Me About Davis Bertans 

Post#547 » by B-Ball Freak » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:22 pm

mixerball wrote:
B-Ball Freak wrote:Another player made to look great by the legendary Spurs system, it seems like every year there is one.

oversimplifying things.

no, they are looking for good players with great attitudes that can fill in the roles on the court. spurs are never looking for "stars". he was good before and is now showing it. even more so in the right system.

he was a good player with great potential but then he blew his knee. twice. that put some breaks on his career


Not saying he's a scrub just saying he's made to look better by that team. We'll see how does for the rest of the season it's only been 14 games.
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Re: Talk To Me About Davis Bertans 

Post#548 » by LoyalKing » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:42 pm

B-Ball Freak wrote:Another player made to look great by the legendary Spurs system, it seems like every year there is one.


I wonder where was the legendary system for James Anderson, Ian Mahinmi, Dejuan Blair, Livio Jean Charles, Kevin Martin.

Spurs know how to use a player to his strengths. They've mastered it. But there isn't miraculous system there or anywhere in the world.

Bertans has always been a good prospect, in Europe and in the NBA. If San Antonio knows how to use his strengths, good for them and Bertans.
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Re: Talk To Me About Davis Bertans 

Post#549 » by ElectricMayhem » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:09 am

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As strange as it sounds, that gap actually serves as kind of an alley for the ball to roll down. It assures a straight shot. Anybody serious about being a good 3-point shooter will chop off a digit. That's the future of the game.


Also, that's why we've never had any Yazuka in the NBA. They always chop off the pinky first. Gutterball every time.
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Re: Talk To Me About Davis Bertans 

Post#550 » by Dan Z » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:52 pm

LoyalKing wrote:
B-Ball Freak wrote:Another player made to look great by the legendary Spurs system, it seems like every year there is one.


I wonder where was the legendary system for James Anderson, Ian Mahinmi, Dejuan Blair, Livio Jean Charles, Kevin Martin.

Spurs know how to use a player to his strengths. They've mastered it. But there isn't miraculous system there or anywhere in the world.

Bertans has always been a good prospect, in Europe and in the NBA. If San Antonio knows how to use his strengths, good for them and Bertans.


I give some credit to their scouts. They've been able to draft players, with late picks, who end up being productive for the team.
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Re: Talk To Me About Davis Bertans 

Post#551 » by Capn'O » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:39 pm

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Re: Talk To Me About Davis Bertans 

Post#552 » by TheDavinciCHODE » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:31 pm

Capn'O wrote:
TheDavinciCHODE wrote:I want to talk to you about Euthanasia.

Can we stop with these awful thread titles?

BTW, I mean Euthanasia the classic Megadeth album. It was really cutting edge for its time.


http://www.theonion.com/article/humanity-still-producing-new-art-though-megadeths--50983

Saying that any further endeavors of technical skill and imagination were pointless, experts at the Smithsonian Institution reportedly questioned Monday why new art was still being produced after the pinnacle of aesthetic and creative potential was reached in 1990 with Megadeth’s fourth studio album, Rust In Peace. “As the unquestioned apex of the entire history of the creative arts, Rust In Peace is the finest and last necessary piece of human expression


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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#553 » by Goudelock » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:22 am

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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#554 » by thamadkant » Thu Dec 1, 2016 1:43 am

Khris Dunn is terrible for an old rookie.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#555 » by Dan Z » Thu Dec 1, 2016 1:51 am

PockyCandy wrote:


He's been a good signing by the Knicks.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#556 » by UcanUwill » Thu Dec 1, 2016 3:26 pm

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PockyCandy wrote:


He's been a good signing by the Knicks.


With this new cap, it will be incredibly easy to fry all these Euro role players from European teams, for what is to NBA teams now, a pocket change. I am still a bit shocked no one offered Bourousis a contract, or did he really declined them all?
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#557 » by KokoKaizer » Thu Dec 1, 2016 4:42 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Dan Z wrote:
PockyCandy wrote:


He's been a good signing by the Knicks.


With this new cap, it will be incredibly easy to fry all these Euro role players from European teams, for what is to NBA teams now, a pocket change. I am still a bit shocked no one offered Bourousis a contract, or did he really declined them all?


Bourousis is pretty much done.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#558 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Dec 1, 2016 4:57 pm

He's very old for a rookie so some of it's to be expected, but I don't think you could name five rookies playing better than Brogdon.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#559 » by The Rebel » Thu Dec 1, 2016 8:34 pm

A nice article from a couple of days ago highlighting how Murray is making his teammates better, which is great for a rookie that has been switching between both guard slots.

http://bsndenver.com/nuggets-film-room-jamal-murray-is-elevating-others-with-his-playmaking/
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#560 » by magnumt » Thu Dec 1, 2016 9:06 pm

PockyCandy wrote:


He had 14 Points against the Wolves last night in a Win. Midrange, Drives, and 3's to get there.

Guy is really good as a backup 3.

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