Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To

[Duke4life831]

Top 7 ummm yeah do not think taking the chance is good. Plus next year may not be a good draft class.

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Its a pretty big drop off compared to the draft class coming up. There is a pretty steep drop off after about the 4th pick. That is assuming Duval gets somewhat of a jumper. Definitely not a class I would say is worth tanking for.

[Burnie Riley]

Wow, Lonzo Ball takes 3 shots and still manages to get an almost 6 minute highlight vid??? I thought it was going to be boring, but some of them are pretty awesome.

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[UD4MVP]

UCLA vs UK this weekend, and they also play Washington twice this year in conference play

[King_Supreme]

Top 7 ummm yeah do not think taking the chance is good. Plus next year may not be a good draft class.

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Reguardless of not if the 2018 class is projected to be weak, the Heat's focus should be acquiring and developing young talent. That route of thinking would be the best way for Miami to become title contenders again. So forget going all out to make the offs, priority should be developing and acquiring young talent. That way of thinking probably likely won't manifest with Riley in charge, but that's best for the team.

[DayofMourning]

Top 7 ummm yeah do not think taking the chance is good. Plus next year may not be a good draft class.

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Its a pretty big drop off compared to the draft class coming up. There is a pretty steep drop off after about the 4th pick. That is assuming Duval gets somewhat of a jumper. Definitely not a class I would say is worth tanking for.

Definitely not as superstar talent laden as this class. Some good players though. Bamba is the one I get most excited about. He's got about as much bust potential as boom potential though.

I just noticed that Porter chose Washington. What is going on up there that's bringing in the top names? I'll have to do some research. They keep on getting guys, and haven't done much to suggest that type of appeal.

[Duke4life831]

Top 7 ummm yeah do not think taking the chance is good. Plus next year may not be a good draft class.

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Its a pretty big drop off compared to the draft class coming up. There is a pretty steep drop off after about the 4th pick. That is assuming Duval gets somewhat of a jumper. Definitely not a class I would say is worth tanking for.

Definitely not as superstar talent laden as this class. Some good players though. Bamba is the one I get most excited about. He's got about as much bust potential as boom potential though.

I just noticed that Porter chose Washington. What is going on up there that's bringing in the top names? I'll have to do some research. They keep on getting guys, and haven't done much to suggest that type of appeal.

Ya I love Bamba as a prospect. I consider him Gobert but with Anthony Davis athleticism. If his latest measurements hold up Bamba will have the longest wingspan in the NBA. I think that class has about 4 guys that have a chance to be studs with Bamba, Ayton, Porter and Duval. After that I think its a small drop off to Carter who doesnt have the ceiling as those guys but a solid player than a pretty big drop off. Also those top 4 guys have some pretty big question marks. Ayton has huge motor question marks, that dude disappears way to much for his size and talent. Can Bamba do anything other than block shots, Porter plays a little stiff and soft, big questions with his handle (I could easily see him being Harrison Barnes 2.0) and Duval and that ugly jumper. PGs need to be able shoot now adays.

So I like the top 4 guys or so, just not the lock super stars like we have this year and a pretty big drop off after 4 or 5 unlike this year were its just a gradual drop till the end of the lottery.

When it comes to Porter and Washington, Romar (the head coach) is his godfather and his dad was just hired as an assistant earlier this year. That recruitment was never really up for debate, everyone knew he was going to end up there.

[DayofMourning]

Its a pretty big drop off compared to the draft class coming up. There is a pretty steep drop off after about the 4th pick. That is assuming Duval gets somewhat of a jumper. Definitely not a class I would say is worth tanking for.

Definitely not as superstar talent laden as this class. Some good players though. Bamba is the one I get most excited about. He's got about as much bust potential as boom potential though.

I just noticed that Porter chose Washington. What is going on up there that's bringing in the top names? I'll have to do some research. They keep on getting guys, and haven't done much to suggest that type of appeal.

Ya I love Bamba as a prospect. I consider him Gobert but with Anthony Davis athleticism. If his latest measurements hold up Bamba will have the longest wingspan in the NBA. I think that class has about 4 guys that have a chance to be studs with Bamba, Ayton, Porter and Duval. After that I think its a small drop off to Carter who doesnt have the ceiling as those guys but a solid player than a pretty big drop off. Also those top 4 guys have some pretty big question marks. Ayton has huge motor question marks, that dude disappears way to much for his size and talent. Can Bamba do anything other than block shots, Porter plays a little stiff and soft, big questions with his handle (I could easily see him being Harrison Barnes 2.0) and Duval and that ugly jumper. PGs need to be able shoot now adays.

So I like the top 4 guys or so, just not the lock super stars like we have this year and a pretty big drop off after 4 or 5 unlike this year were its just a gradual drop till the end of the lottery.

When it comes to Porter and Washington, Romar (the head coach) is his godfather and his dad was just hired as an assistant earlier this year. That recruitment was never really up for debate, everyone knew he was going to end up there.

Nice synopsis. Definitely some solid performers, but no superstars.

I had no idea that Porter's father was the HC. Thanks for the info.

[Duke4life831]

Definitely not as superstar talent laden as this class. Some good players though. Bamba is the one I get most excited about. He's got about as much bust potential as boom potential though.

I just noticed that Porter chose Washington. What is going on up there that's bringing in the top names? I'll have to do some research. They keep on getting guys, and haven't done much to suggest that type of appeal.

Ya I love Bamba as a prospect. I consider him Gobert but with Anthony Davis athleticism. If his latest measurements hold up Bamba will have the longest wingspan in the NBA. I think that class has about 4 guys that have a chance to be studs with Bamba, Ayton, Porter and Duval. After that I think its a small drop off to Carter who doesnt have the ceiling as those guys but a solid player than a pretty big drop off. Also those top 4 guys have some pretty big question marks. Ayton has huge motor question marks, that dude disappears way to much for his size and talent. Can Bamba do anything other than block shots, Porter plays a little stiff and soft, big questions with his handle (I could easily see him being Harrison Barnes 2.0) and Duval and that ugly jumper. PGs need to be able shoot now adays.

So I like the top 4 guys or so, just not the lock super stars like we have this year and a pretty big drop off after 4 or 5 unlike this year were its just a gradual drop till the end of the lottery.

When it comes to Porter and Washington, Romar (the head coach) is his godfather and his dad was just hired as an assistant earlier this year. That recruitment was never really up for debate, everyone knew he was going to end up there.

Nice synopsis. Definitely some solid performers, but no superstars.

I had no idea that Porter's father was the HC. Thanks for the info.

His dad is an assistant coach. His godfather is the head coach.

I definitely think there could be some superstars in this class.

Ayton has all the tools to be a better version of Towns in all honesty. Hes just a bigger stronger version of him when it comes to skills. That motor and IQ is the question with him. Some times he looks like the best big prospect since Oden.

Again with Bamba I see him as a more athletic version of Gobert. So I could see him come in and by year 2 or 3 starting a reign of DPOY awards. But can he ever become an offensive threat? He does have really good shooting touch.

Porter just looks like Barnes 2.0. Great straight line and vertical athlete with a great looking jumper. But can he become a little more fluid and improve his dribble so he can create his own shot.

Duval looks to be a mix of Kyrie and Rose. Has Kyrie's handles (maybe better than Kyrie at this stage) and Kyrie's layup ability. He also has Rose type athleticism, may not have quite the hops but his speed and quickness mixed with body type is very much like Rose at this age. But he also has a jumper like Rose and that is a big question mark now adays for a PG.

Ill toss in Carter as well, doesnt have the potential like those 4, but he looks like almost like a mix between Horford and Cousins. I think he has all star potential but not superstar potential.

After those there really isnt much to get excited about. Troy Brown, Knox and Diallo could intrigue some people but its a pretty steep drop off. I dont think any of those 3 guys would go lottery in this upcoming draft.

So long story short, I see the potential with the top 4-5 guys, they just have a lot more of wiggle room of how good they actually wind up being. The guys in this current class just seem so legit. Fultz, DSJ, Ball, JJ and so on just look like guys you know are going to be studs, not as much questions with them.

[DayofMourning]

Is dad is an assistant coach. His godfather is the head coach.

I definitely think there could be some superstars in this class.

Ayton has all the tools to be a better version of Towns in all honesty. Hes just a bigger stronger version of him when it comes to skills. That motor and IQ is the question with him. Some times he looks like the best big prospect since Oden.

Again with Bamba I see him as a more athletic version of Gobert. So I could see him come in and by year 2 or 3 starting a reign of DPOY awards. But can he ever become an offensive threat? He does have really good shooting touch.

Porter just looks like Barnes 2.0. Great straight line and vertical athlete with a great looking jumper. But can he become a little more fluid and improve his dribble so he can create his own shot.

Duval looks to be a mix of Kyrie and Rose. Has Kyrie's handles (maybe better than Kyrie at this stage) and Kyrie's layup ability. He also has Rose type athleticism, may not have quite the hops but his speed and quickness mixed with body type is very much like Rose at this age. But he also has a jumper like Rose and that is a big question mark now adays for a PG.

Ill toss in Carter as well, doesnt have the potential like those 4, but he looks like almost like a mix between Horford and Cousins. I think he has all star potential but not superstar potential.

After those there really isnt much to get excited about. Troy Brown, Knox and Diallo could intrigue some people but its a pretty steep drop off. I dont think any of those 3 guys would go lottery in this upcoming draft.

So long story short, I see the potential with the top 4-5 guys, they just have a lot more of wiggle room of how good they actually wind up being. The guys in this current class just seem so legit. Fultz, DSJ, Ball, JJ and so on just look like guys you know are going to be studs, not as much questions with them.

Definitely appreciate all the analysis.

Ayton is a frustrating guy for me. Towns never was.

Bamba's touch makes me wonder about his ceiling. He could really carve a niche for himself.

I like Diallo, but haven't seen much of Brown or Knox at this point.

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[DayofMourning]

Maybe we should start keeping track of guys in the late lotto range as well. We are committed to the middle right now.

[Feel_the_Heat15]

We should look forward to getting Rabb. Averaging 18.3 PPG|11 RPG|2 APG. Gets compared to Bosh.

[puppa bear]

Maybe we should start keeping track of guys in the late lotto range as well. We are committed to the middle right now.

Ideally, if we are going rebuild, we should be aiming for a trade that allows for a more effective tank and gets us a second lotto pick (or at least something in the 12-18 range).

If we end up over achieving and only get something in the 11-13 then we just take the BPA. Real chance someone like Tatum, Rabb, Fox drops, or a PF like Hartenstein or Markkanen would be available.

So that range is probably a PF hunt, with most of the quality at the top in PGs, or for the second level of PG (Fox, Ntilikina, Monk).

[Feel_the_Heat15]

Maybe we should start keeping track of guys in the late lotto range as well. We are committed to the middle right now.

Ideally, if we are going rebuild, we should be aiming for a trade that allows for a more effective tank and gets us a second lotto pick (or at least something in the 12-18 range).

If we end up over achieving and only get something in the 11-13 then we just take the BPA. Real chance someone like Tatum, Rabb, Fox drops, or a PF like Hartenstein or Markkanen would be available.

So that range is probably a PF hunt, with most of the quality at the top in PGs, or for the second level of PG (Fox, Ntilikina, Monk).

I don't see us purposely tanking, especially with this 2 game winning streak we're on. Even if we were to do that we'd probably pick at #5 at best. That probably gets you Isaac or Tatum. Picks #10-12 will most likely be Anunoby, Rabb and Fox all very good prospects.

[UD4MVP]

Our hope is a lot of interest building in Dragic if he keeps it up. I don't think we would pass up a good package, but we won't give him away for the sake of giving him away. Unreasonable to expect a enormous package for him but a team desperate that's trying to make the playoffs and has no PG has plenty reason to go after a good player like Dragic on a good contract. Dragic is playing better than he did the first half of the season when he got traded to us. A lot of teams were trying to get him off PHX and he only had 1 year on that deal.

[King_Supreme]

Maybe we should start keeping track of guys in the late lotto range as well. We are committed to the middle right now.

Way to early to assume the Heat are a late lotto team, the 2015-2016 Knicks were .500 through the first 40 games and wound up as a 32 win team. While last year's Trail Blazers started out 16-24, and finished 44-38. Plenty of time for teams like the T-Wolves, Orlando, and Washington to make playoff pushes and finish with 40+ wins.

[leoshes]

Maybe we should start keeping track of guys in the late lotto range as well. We are committed to the middle right now.

Ideally, if we are going rebuild, we should be aiming for a trade that allows for a more effective tank and gets us a second lotto pick (or at least something in the 12-18 range).

If we end up over achieving and only get something in the 11-13 then we just take the BPA. Real chance someone like Tatum, Rabb, Fox drops, or a PF like Hartenstein or Markkanen would be available.

So that range is probably a PF hunt, with most of the quality at the top in PGs, or for the second level of PG (Fox, Ntilikina, Monk).

I don't see us purposely tanking, especially with this 2 game winning streak we're on. Even if we were to do that we'd probably pick at #5 at best. That probably gets you Isaac or Tatum. Picks #10-12 will most likely be Anunoby, Rabb and Fox all very good prospects.

This is the order i believe we should choose.

Josh Jackson - 14.1 PTS 5.7 REB 3.3 AST 1.1 BLK 1.6 STL
Markelle Fultz - 22.7 PTS 6.7 REB 6.6 AST 1.4 BLK 2.1 STL
Lonzo Ball - 14.6 PTS 4.9 REB 9.6 AST 1.0 BLK 1.5 STL
Dennis Smith Jr. - 18.7 PTS 3.9 REB 5.1 AST 0.0 BLK 1.4 STL
Harry Giles
Jonathan Isaac - 15.1 PTS 7.3 REB 1.1 AST 1.1 BLK 1.3 STL
Jayson Tatum
Ivan Rabb - 18.3 PTS 11.0 REB 2.0 AST 1.0 BLK 1.0 STL
De'Aaron Fox - 15.3 PTS 5.7 REB 7.6 AST 0.3 BLK 2.0 STL

[twix2500]

I'm not big on Rabb

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[puppa bear]

Maybe we should start keeping track of guys in the late lotto range as well. We are committed to the middle right now.

Ideally, if we are going rebuild, we should be aiming for a trade that allows for a more effective tank and gets us a second lotto pick (or at least something in the 12-18 range).

If we end up over achieving and only get something in the 11-13 then we just take the BPA. Real chance someone like Tatum, Rabb, Fox drops, or a PF like Hartenstein or Markkanen would be available.

So that range is probably a PF hunt, with most of the quality at the top in PGs, or for the second level of PG (Fox, Ntilikina, Monk).

I don't see us purposely tanking, especially with this 2 game winning streak we're on. Even if we were to do that we'd probably pick at #5 at best. That probably gets you Isaac or Tatum. Picks #10-12 will most likely be Anunoby, Rabb and Fox all very good prospects.

If we can get out of this draft with Isaac & Fox then it would be a huge win.

For Isaac & Tatum to be there at #5 then Fultz, JJ, Ball, Smith must be gone, so Giles becomes an option as well.

[UD4MVP]

I finally started looking at Markkanen, impressive stuff. Probably wont get past the first 7 picks