Rockets match Nets offer for Donuts (Updte Pg 17: Offer Pulled, DMo UFA)

[K_chile22]

Dmo couldn't get Morey to go that high without another team giving Dmo leverage, it wasn't a case of Morey trying to get Dmo to agree to something that low

I feel like I am missing something here. Filling in the numbers, doesn't that basically read: Dmo couldn't get Morey to go up to a starting 8.5m salary, it wasn't a case of Morey trying to get Dmo to agree to a 7m starting salary.

Yeah, that was worded terribly on my part lol Slava was making it seem like Morey couldn't get Dmo to agree to a deal like the one he got from Brooklyn when that wasn't even on the table from Morey because he wasn't going to bid against himself. It's not like they were making similar offers and Morey just couldn't negotiate him down like Marks did

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[Johnny Bball]

That's dumb. They've tried to trade him, alienated him and don't let him go. Its not like hes going to see lots of the floor ever. I shake my head at Morey's decisions often though.

[TinmanZBoy]

Sean Marks helped Morey get a better deal than Morey could negotiate himself. Brooklyn's front office is amateur and D-Mo is a dummy for signing that offer sheet after holding out for so long instead of playing on the QO.

D-Mo misplayed it and was banking on the Rockets sucking without him and being desperate to sign him. Once he saw that we were fine without him he had to give in. No team wanted him or else they could have had him. The threat of Morey matching also discouraged suitors during free agency. Morey played this perfectly.

Pretty simple tbh.

What he should have done:
Sign QO for $4.4 million.
If healthy, become UFA next year, get big $$$ contract.
If not healthy, gets $4.4m total

What happened:
Let QO expire. Signed Nets deal 35m/4 year or 8.75m/year or so, read on. This deal is really bad.
If healthy, locked into a bargain basement deal for less than 9m per year for 4 years.
If not healthy, Rockets can actually cut him by January 10, 2017. He only gets 5m for 2016-2017. Rockets can even decide to keep him in January, then elect to not pickup his second year by March 1, 2017. So Rockets can keep him on the roster until March for $8.5m this year.

And his last two years are fully unguaranteed (with decision dates of July 7, 2017 and July 7, 2018).

What did his gamble get him? Probably approximately 4m in guaranteed money, but lost an opportunity to get the real big bucks in FA. Motiejunas needs to fire his agent.

This deal is a disaster: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-houston-matches-nets-offer-sheet-for-donatas-motiejunas-221704984.html

second this... i am happy that D-Mo is going to play, but bewildered by his contract

[BallerTalk]

Donatas can't be happy, he seemed aggravated at how the Rockets negotiated with him. ...

Hmm...I'm curious about the basis of this comment.
Has Motiejunas made a statement expressing discontent?
Is there an interview or something that gave you this impression?

[pr0wler]

That's dumb. They've tried to trade him, alienated him and don't let him go. Its not like hes going to see lots of the floor ever. I shake my head at Morey's decisions often though.

lol. Very insightful and accurate analysis imo

[K_chile22]

Donatas can't be happy, he seemed aggravated at how the Rockets negotiated with him. ...

Hmm...I'm curious about the basis of this comment.
Has Motiejunas made a statement expressing discontent?
Is there an interview or something that gave you this impression?

All of these comments are merely conjecture. There have been no reports or quotes that say anything to suggest this kind of thing is true

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[MemphisX]

Sean Marks helped Morey get a better deal than Morey could negotiate himself. Brooklyn's front office is amateur and D-Mo is a dummy for signing that offer sheet after holding out for so long instead of playing on the QO.

D-Mo misplayed it and was banking on the Rockets sucking without him and being desperate to sign him. Once he saw that we were fine without him he had to give in. No team wanted him or else they could have had him. The threat of Morey matching also discouraged suitors during free agency. Morey played this perfectly.

Pretty simple tbh.

What he should have done:
Sign QO for $4.4 million.
If healthy, become UFA next year, get big $$$ contract.
If not healthy, gets $4.4m total

What happened:
Let QO expire. Signed Nets deal 35m/4 year or 8.75m/year or so, read on. This deal is really bad.
If healthy, locked into a bargain basement deal for less than 9m per year for 4 years.
If not healthy, Rockets can actually cut him by January 10, 2017. He only gets 5m for 2016-2017. Rockets can even decide to keep him in January, then elect to not pickup his second year by March 1, 2017. So Rockets can keep him on the roster until March for $8.5m this year.

And his last two years are fully unguaranteed (with decision dates of July 7, 2017 and July 7, 2018).

What did his gamble get him? Probably approximately 4m in guaranteed money, but lost an opportunity to get the real big bucks in FA. Motiejunas needs to fire his agent.

This deal is a disaster: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-houston-matches-nets-offer-sheet-for-donatas-motiejunas-221704984.html

I will assume his agent, the Rockets and he know that his injury is a little more dicey than he lets on.

[Blame Rasho]

They match a guy who they didn't care enough to ensure was on the on the roster at the start of the year.

[tsherkin]

They match a guy who they didn't care enough to ensure was on the on the roster at the start of the year.

Depth, I'm guessing? They got him on a decent detail.

[pootbrah]

terrible deal for d-mo. cmon how can rockets not match that kind of contract.

[SF_Warriors]

Matching the contract was a no brainer even though dmo didnt want to stay and it seems as if hou has solid depth at PF/C.

At under 9 mill a year, dmo can be traded for an asset rather than being lost for nothing. If they cant find a trade partner, they have a guy who in case of injury can come in and he also has something to prove for the future giving him incentive to play hard.

If they get a second rounder from bkn or some other team, it is a win for morey.

[BallerTalk]

Donatas can't be happy, he seemed aggravated at how the Rockets negotiated with him. ...

Hmm...I'm curious about the basis of this comment.
Has Motiejunas made a statement expressing discontent?
Is there an interview or something that gave you this impression?

All of these comments are merely conjecture. There have been no reports or quotes that say anything to suggest this kind of thing is true

Lol, Why are you ruining my fun?

[kenwood3333]

Agreed with the analysis; he needs a better agent to handle the business side of things.

[ken6199]

He needs to fire his agent. He should have signed that 4.4m QO and hit the market next summer as UFA.

Instead his agent managed to talk him into letting the QO expire, and getting stuck in this awkward situation where he has little to no bargaining chips.


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[FNQ]

Donatas can't be happy, he seemed aggravated at how the Rockets negotiated with him. ...

Hmm...I'm curious about the basis of this comment.
Has Motiejunas made a statement expressing discontent?
Is there an interview or something that gave you this impression?

When they pulled their offer, the rumor was he was upset. It may have just been a logical connecting of dots, but I tend to think it's more logical than expecting a public statement from an unsigned non-star player grousing about not getting signed.

[FNQ]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/donatas-motiejunas-upset-that-rockets-undervalued-him/amp/

[K_chile22]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/donatas-motiejunas-upset-that-rockets-undervalued-him/amp/

Besides the title, where does it say he's upset?
Even then it's one thing to be upset that they can't reach a deal and another for the situation to be toxic and him not wanting to be in Houston. Especially since he hasn't stopped wearing Rockets gear in all his snapchat videos the whole time and still likes Rockets tweets on Twitter.
People are also acting like a Gm-player relationship is the only one a player has with a team. He has said considered Houston his second home, he is a fan favorite here and he knows it, he likes MDA and I believe smitty himself along with local guys said he is excited to play in that system, and he is friends with alot of guys on the team and has been talking to Bev throughout the whole process

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[FNQ]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/donatas-motiejunas-upset-that-rockets-undervalued-him/amp/

Besides the title, where does it say he's upset?
Even then it's one thing to be upset that they can't reach a deal and another for the situation to be toxic and him not wanting to be in Houston. Especially since he hasn't stopped wearing Rockets gear in all his snapchat videos the whole time and still likes Rockets tweets on Twitter.
People are also acting like a Gm-player relationship is the only one a player has with a team. He has said considered Houston his second home, he is a fan favorite here and he knows it, he likes MDA and I believe smitty himself along with local guys said he is excited to play in that system, and he is friends with alot of guys on the team and has been talking to Bev throughout the whole process

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Canned response aside, it says in the article he was upset. I think cbs sports is legit enough of a publication to take it semi-serious.

I get that you and other Rockets fans probably had a response to anyone questioning whether or not DMo is happy locked and loaded, but acting like it's not a logical talking point is lightweight denial. Considering they tried to deal him last year and then lowballed him and matched a RFA deal in December, I'd say speculation of the situation - after credible outlets reported he's upset - is merited.

[BallerTalk]

Donatas can't be happy, he seemed aggravated at how the Rockets negotiated with him. ...

Hmm...I'm curious about the basis of this comment.
Has Motiejunas made a statement expressing discontent?
Is there an interview or something that gave you this impression?

When they pulled their offer, the rumor was he was upset. It may have just been a logical connecting of dots, but I tend to think it's more logical than expecting a public statement from an unsigned non-star player grousing about not getting signed.

So your statement that "he seemed aggravated..." is based solely on a rumor you allegedly read/heard that suggested Motiejunas probably should be upset about an otherwise standard restricted free agency process that he and his agent dragged out.

Is that the gist of it?

[FNQ]

Hmm...I'm curious about the basis of this comment.
Has Motiejunas made a statement expressing discontent?
Is there an interview or something that gave you this impression?

When they pulled their offer, the rumor was he was upset. It may have just been a logical connecting of dots, but I tend to think it's more logical than expecting a public statement from an unsigned non-star player grousing about not getting signed.

So your statement that "he seemed aggravated..." is based solely on a rumor you allegedly read/heard that suggested Motiejunas probably should be upset about an otherwise standard restricted free agency process that he and his agent dragged out.

Is that the gist of it?

Mainly. But let me subtract the denial out of it and say it back to you:

My statement that "he seemed aggravated" is solely based on a report by CBS Sports that I definitely read because I linked it, and it suggested that he was upset and felt unwanted because a uniquely long and drawn out restricted free agency that rarely ever happens, ever.

I mean both statements are slanted, I just have no problem admitting it, and no dog in the fight.