Markelle Fultz

EricAnderson · Post #81 » by **EricAnderson** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 2:51 pm

Dat2U wrote:Fultz has a smoothness that reminds me of Brandon Roy. He's got athleticism but his there's an economy of motion to his game. He's about as polished a freshman guard as I've seen. I think offensively he can be an elite NBA player.

Yep.. I'm amazed by the fluidity and body control in his game.. he can Euro step or cut on a dime while driving to the hoop with such great balance

madmaxmedia · Post #82 » by **madmaxmedia** » Fri Dec 2, 2016 9:36 pm

Dat2U wrote:Fultz has a smoothness that reminds me of Brandon Roy. He's got athleticism but there's an economy of motion to his game. He's about as polished a freshman guard as I've seen. I think offensively he can be an elite NBA player.

He is absolutely smooth as silk. To always seemingly play under control like that, you've got to be able to see the court well and basically recognize your Plan A/B/C as you're driving into the paint. For this reason, I think he'll still play well against tougher competition (even if not quite as prolific.)

Every great player does it differently, does it their own way.

Somebody is getting lucky at #1 this offseason. And if he doesn't go #1, whoever is getting him at #2 or #3 is even luckier.

madmaxmedia · Post #83 » by **madmaxmedia** » Sat Dec 3, 2016 5:04 pm

Great story about Furtz here-
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/17943952/washington-freshman-markelle-fultz-wants-best-basketball-player-all
http://es.pn/2eY3xvy

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eagereyez · Post #84 » by **eagereyez** » Thu Dec 8, 2016 6:47 am

Summary of his game against Gonazaga:

25 pts (10-26), 10 rebs, 1 ast

Fultz was 3-6 from 3, 2-12 from the rest of the team. He was also robbed of 3-4 assists because UW's bigs are stiffs. 2 of the team's 12 turnovers were from Fultz. He did struggle mightily under the arc (7-20), but at least part of that is due to the defense collapsing very quickly.

Chuck Everett · Post #85 » by **Chuck Everett** » Thu Dec 8, 2016 7:47 am

Gonzaga is really deep and talented (with experienced players). Washington is depleted after losing Chriss, Andrews and Murray. Fultz is going to get his, but the team is going to be average. It is what it is.

MotownMadness · Post #86 » by **MotownMadness** » Thu Dec 8, 2016 1:39 pm

Washington looks pretty bad

EricAnderson · Post #87 » by **EricAnderson** » Thu Dec 8, 2016 1:49 pm

Romar must have incriminating pictures of someone at Uw

Mulhollanddrive · Post #88 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Thu Dec 8, 2016 1:56 pm

Most underrated part of Fultz is his (standing) reach, which will be top 10% for NBA PGs.

You can see in the Gonzaga game he was able to make layups with 3 defenders around him because of length.

At times he looked a little lackadaisacal but you could say the same about Curry and Harden who are smooth movers as well.

cksdayoff · Post #89 » by **cksdayoff** » Thu Dec 8, 2016 3:49 pm

Chuck Everett wrote:Gonzaga is really deep and talented (with experienced players). Washington is depleted after losing Chriss, Andrews and Murray. Fultz is going to get his, but the team is going to be average. It is what it is.

There is no spacing on the floor. Fultz is always driving into congested lanes. Dude has no help whatsoever

pantalones · Post #90 » by **pantalones** » Thu Dec 8, 2016 8:52 pm

Fultz was destroyed by another Fab frosh, Zach Collins, but the ref was awful and anticipated a foul instead of seeing if there was one and Miles Simon called him out on it.

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CptCrunch · Post #91 » by **CptCrunch** » Fri Dec 9, 2016 1:11 am

cksdayoff wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:Gonzaga is really deep and talented (with experienced players). Washington is depleted after losing Chriss, Andrews and Murray. Fultz is going to get his, but the team is going to be average. It is what it is.

There is no spacing on the floor. Fultz is always driving into congested lanes. Dude has no help whatsoever

That shows a 'lack' of basketball IQ/creating ability. Drive to lane, kick to shooter. Forcing shots is not always the best choice.

Are we allowed to ding Fultz for losing? Washington is not the greatest of teams, but if Fultz is indeed that can't miss top 1-2 pick, his team should be better than 4-4 right now, second to laste place in PAC12.

cksdayoff · Post #92 » by **cksdayoff** » Fri Dec 9, 2016 1:20 am

paulbball wrote:
cksdayoff wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:Gonzaga is really deep and talented (with experienced players). Washington is depleted after losing Chriss, Andrews and Murray. Fultz is going to get his, but the team is going to be average. It is what it is.

There is no spacing on the floor. Fultz is always driving into congested lanes. Dude has no help whatsoever

That shows a 'lack' of basketball IQ/creating ability. Drive to lane, kick to shooter. Forcing shots is not always the best choice.

Are we allowed to ding Fultz for losing? Washington is not the greatest of teams, but if Fultz is indeed that can't miss top 1-2 pick, his team should be better than 4-4 right now, second to laste place in PAC12.

he did that plenty last night, his teammates can't hit open jumpers

Kolkmania · Post #93 » by **Kolkmania** » Fri Dec 9, 2016 12:29 pm

paulbball wrote:
cksdayoff wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:Gonzaga is really deep and talented (with experienced players). Washington is depleted after losing Chriss, Andrews and Murray. Fultz is going to get his, but the team is going to be average. It is what it is.

There is no spacing on the floor. Fultz is always driving into congested lanes. Dude has no help whatsoever

That shows a 'lack' of basketball IQ/creating ability. Drive to lane, kick to shooter. Forcing shots is not always the best choice.

Are we allowed to ding Fultz for losing? Washington is not the greatest of teams, but if Fultz is indeed that can't miss top 1-2 pick, his team should be better than 4-4 right now, second to laste place in PAC12.

We should judge Fultz on his individual performances not based on that team record, it's just disgusting watching that mess.

Fultz has excellent skills, a nice stroke (not sold on his shooting %'s yet though), is crafty, has a great wingspan and he actually is a great athlete but it is deceptive because he kind of floats around the court.
But boy, do I hate his nonchalant appearance. He takes no pride in getting defensive stops and does almost nothing that doesn't show up in the box score. I'm not sure if we can fully blame him on this since the whole team seems noncompetitive, but you don't want to many players on your roster with this attitude. It's infectious.

Don't want to judge too soon and draw conclusions based on one game, especially since I saw a totally different Fultz in the FIBA -19 tournament, but really disappointing performance against Gonzaga.

CptCrunch · Post #94 » by **CptCrunch** » Fri Dec 9, 2016 3:01 pm

Kolkmania wrote:
paulbball wrote:
cksdayoff wrote:
There is no spacing on the floor. Fultz is always driving into congested lanes. Dude has no help whatsoever

That shows a 'lack' of basketball IQ/creating ability. Drive to lane, kick to shooter. Forcing shots is not always the best choice.

Are we allowed to ding Fultz for losing? Washington is not the greatest of teams, but if Fultz is indeed that can't miss top 1-2 pick, his team should be better than 4-4 right now, second to laste place in PAC12.

We should judge Fultz on his individual performances not based on that team record, it's just disgusting watching that mess.

Fultz has excellent skills, a nice stroke (not sold on his shooting %'s yet though), is crafty, has a great wingspan and he actually is a great athlete but it is deceptive because he kind of floats around the court.
But boy, do I hate his nonchalant appearance. He takes no pride in getting defensive stops and does almost nothing that doesn't show up in the box score. I'm not sure if we can fully blame him on this since the whole team seems noncompetitive, but you don't want to many players on your roster with this attitude. It's infectious.

Don't want to judge too soon and draw conclusions based on one game, especially since I saw a totally different Fultz in the FIBA -19 tournament, but really disappointing performance against Gonzaga.

I'm getting some Ben Simmons vibe from him. Puts up stats, doesn't play with 100% intensity, team stays losing. This often indicates that a player lacks the 'it' factor that NBA goat type players possess.

cksdayoff · Post #95 » by **cksdayoff** » Fri Dec 9, 2016 4:00 pm

paulbball wrote:
Kolkmania wrote:
paulbball wrote:
That shows a 'lack' of basketball IQ/creating ability. Drive to lane, kick to shooter. Forcing shots is not always the best choice.

Are we allowed to ding Fultz for losing? Washington is not the greatest of teams, but if Fultz is indeed that can't miss top 1-2 pick, his team should be better than 4-4 right now, second to laste place in PAC12.

We should judge Fultz on his individual performances not based on that team record, it's just disgusting watching that mess.

Fultz has excellent skills, a nice stroke (not sold on his shooting %'s yet though), is crafty, has a great wingspan and he actually is a great athlete but it is deceptive because he kind of floats around the court.
But boy, do I hate his nonchalant appearance. He takes no pride in getting defensive stops and does almost nothing that doesn't show up in the box score. I'm not sure if we can fully blame him on this since the whole team seems noncompetitive, but you don't want to many players on your roster with this attitude. It's infectious.

Don't want to judge too soon and draw conclusions based on one game, especially since I saw a totally different Fultz in the FIBA -19 tournament, but really disappointing performance against Gonzaga.

I'm getting some Ben Simmons vibe from him. Puts up stats, doesn't play with 100% intensity, team stays losing. This often indicates that a player lacks the 'it' factor that NBA goat type players possess.

name any freshman draft prospect, stick them on the huskies, and the record would be the same or worse.

you are underestimating the talent level of this team. It's god awful.

Chuck Everett · Post #96 » by **Chuck Everett** » Fri Dec 9, 2016 5:25 pm

So many hot takes. Yeesh. If you saw Fultz be dominant on the under-19 team amongst all those other stud recruits and you see how effortless it is for him on the college level, playing with nobody, why do you see him in a poor light when he will be playing with better players on the next level?

Was the expectation that he's supposed to beat Gonzaga all by himself? They have three high-level D-I transfers and returned a lot of an already great team. Someone's probably going to bring up TCU, but they are coached by Jamie Dixon now. No longer a push-over team. And Yale beat Baylor last year in the tournament. Washington as a TEAM is going to lose a lot of games against good teams. That was always going to be the case.

No-Man · Post #97 » by **No-Man** » Fri Dec 9, 2016 5:31 pm

Gonzaga is for me the best team in college basketball and one of the most stacked rosters this year, Duke aside, WAS would lose 9 out of 10 against them pretty easily.

Post #98 » by **Duke4life831** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:21 am

Another bad loss for Washington. That now makes it 4 straight losses and theyre under .500 so far in the year. I just have no clue why he decided to play for them, no one is going to watch their games, wont make the tournament and unlike last year with Simmons who kept getting a ton of attention because of how weak that draft was. This draft is so deep people are going to talk about the guys who are on major teams or are winning. Choosing Washington is such a puzzling decision in my opinion.

Post #99 » by **Marcus** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:01 am

Duke4life831 wrote:Another bad loss for Washington. That now makes it 4 straight losses and theyre under .500 so far in the year. I just have no clue why he decided to play for them, no one is going to watch their games, wont make the tournament and unlike last year with Simmons who kept getting a ton of attention because of how weak that draft was. This draft is so deep people are going to talk about the guys who are on major teams or are winning. Choosing Washington is such a puzzling decision in my opinion.

Loyalty plain and simple. First and only team to recruit him before the buzz. He stayed loyal. Speaks to his character I think.

Post #100 » by **Duke4life831** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:15 am

Marcus wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Another bad loss for Washington. That now makes it 4 straight losses and theyre under .500 so far in the year. I just have no clue why he decided to play for them, no one is going to watch their games, wont make the tournament and unlike last year with Simmons who kept getting a ton of attention because of how weak that draft was. This draft is so deep people are going to talk about the guys who are on major teams or are winning. Choosing Washington is such a puzzling decision in my opinion.

Loyalty plain and simple. First and only team to recruit him before the buzz. He stayed loyal. Speaks to his character I think.

If its just out of loyalty I can respect that but just looking at it as a business move it was really dumb. I wont be surprised if his name gets kinda lost throughout the season, now of course it wont get lost with NBA GMs but he definitely wont be the most talked about prospect in the draft. And that popularity difference can equate to a lot of money when it comes to endorsements and stuff like that.

I just wish we couldve seen him with an actual team. I wanted to see how he would play with not being option 1,2 and 3. Ive seen him do it on the international level just wanted to see him do it on the college level. Its almost just a lost season for me when it comes to Fultz. Im not going to get impressed with his huge raw numbers because hes the only guy and I wont get down on him for bad numbers for the same reason.

I just like seeing guys like Jackson, Monk, Bam, Fox, Ball, Tatum, Frank, Isaac and Markkanen actually showing what they can do in a team system. Fultz and DSJ are both in situations where its basically like the coach rolling the ball out to them and just saying, youre our only hope, you do you. You just cant really get a great read on a guy in a situation like that. There are only 2 guys in the NBA like that with Westbrook and Harden. These guys are going to be asked to actually play in a system revolving around a team next year. Just sucks seeing 2 of the top prospects being wasted on such terrible teams.