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Post#421 » by Unbreakable99 » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:41 pm

JojoSlimbiid wrote:Not really a fan of Joel complaining about something like this after one game to the 2nd best team in the conference. He's had the second highest usage rate in the league after Westbrook. That was bound to come down at some point and it's only going to get worse when Simmons get's back. So complaining about touches and where you play right now is a bit of a red flag for me.


I'm a big fan of Embiid saying how he feels. Don't hold back. Let the coaches know what makes you comfortable.
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Post#422 » by Eyeamok » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:42 pm

Vampirate wrote:Imo as a Raptors fan if you guys want to take the next step wait out this year, get that 3rd player in the draft then trade both Noel and Okafor and build a team around Simmons, Embid, draft pick. By year 3 of this you might be a playoff team.


Hmmmm that's a unique approach that I've not heard before. Thank you my good man.
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Post#423 » by Eyeamok » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:44 pm

ankle420breaker wrote:Just in the last week we've had:

- Noel sprain his ankle 10 minutes after returning from an injury that sidelined him the first 20+ games

- Okafor and Rodriguez miss games with stomach flu symptoms

- Embiid misses a game due to elbow inflammation.

- Bayless has season ending surgery on his wrist. Signed to be our starting PG, only played 3 games.

- Embiid nearly misses his last game due to tweaking his ankle during warmups. Spends a good portion of the 2nd quarter in the locker room after absorbing a Turkish backhand from his own teammate.

- Since last playing less than 48 hours ago, Embiid sustains a knee contusion that will likely sideline him for tonight's game.

Just a typical week in Sixerville.


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Post#424 » by Eyeamok » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:50 pm

JojoSlimbiid wrote:Not really a fan of Joel complaining about something like this after one game to the 2nd best team in the conference. He's had the second highest usage rate in the league after Westbrook. That was bound to come down at some point and it's only going to get worse when Simmons get's back. So complaining about touches and where you play right now is a bit of a red flag for me.



What people forget is that these are just kids that are full of emotions. One day the feel like this and the next day they feel like that. The only thing is that once they put their thoughts out into cyberspace, it is out there. And they either have to delete their tweet, which is almost impossible because someone would have captured it, or they have to stand by it. What are they going to say. I'm just an emotional young man and sometimes I say things out of frustration?

He maybe frustrated now, but management has no choice but to resolve it.
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Post#425 » by eagereyez » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:05 pm



Embiid - "Yesterday I was kind of frustrated. I'm not a 3 pt. shooter and I don't want to take a lot of 3's. I want to be dominant on the block. Last night was kind of frustrating because I wasn't on the block."

I hate this Embiid at the 4 crap.
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Post#426 » by Unbreakable99 » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:22 pm

Brett Brown has got to be the dumbest coach ever. Hey we have a 7'2 monster. Let's put a lesser player on the court with him and plays the same position and move out our franchise player and have him on the perimeter. Sounds like a great idea. And we also have someone similar to LeBron James so let's have him play PG instead of PF. Let's have him play out of position too. So now that we have 2 franchise players who could be cornerstones in any organization but we have 2 of them but let's have them both play out of position for lesser players. Genius idea.
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Post#427 » by OleSchool » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:24 pm

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Embiid - "Yesterday I was kind of frustrated. I'm not a 3 pt. shooter and I don't want to take a lot of 3's. I want to be dominant on the block. Last night was kind of frustrating because I wasn't on the block."

I hate this Embiid at the 4 crap.


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Post#428 » by Hipster Doofus » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:32 pm

I'm tired of people (broadcasters, etc) saying Brett Brown is an amazing coach. Happens every time I watch a game. I bet it'll happen again tonight when we play the Lakers on national TV. They go on and on and on about what a fantastic coach he is, how he came out of Pop's system in San Antonio, how he's very patient, very enthusiastic, etc.

Three words: I don't care.

I don't care how patient he is or any of that crap. If I was getting paid millions and my boss was satisfied with mediocrity, I'd be patient too. Let the dollars keep rolling.

The main thing is that he's not an Xs and Os coach.

You never, ever, under any circumstance, even if you're a high school coach, put Joel Embiid at 7'2", 280 lbs to play power forward and run around and make him tired and unnecessarily risk injury.

If you want to experiment, Embiid stays at center, and Okafor at power forward. If it works, great. If not, change your power forward, don't remove your franchise center from his natural position.

You stick him in the center, right under the basket, where he can block shots and rebound on defense, and dunk and have hook shots and short jumpers on offense. That's it. Keep it simple.

If I was the coach, it would be a requirement on offense to have Embiid touch the ball on every possession. Inside-out game with a monster like that, not outside-in. If any of the players don't do that, sub them out and be stern about it (aka Pop's style...).
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Post#429 » by OleSchool » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:05 pm

Canadian6ersFan wrote:I'm tired of people (broadcasters, etc) saying Brett Brown is an amazing coach. Happens every time I watch a game. I bet it'll happen again tonight when we play the Lakers on national TV. They go on and on and on about what a fantastic coach he is, how he came out of Pop's system in San Antonio, how he's very patient, very enthusiastic, etc.

Three words: I don't care.

I don't care how patient he is or any of that crap. If I was getting paid millions and my boss was satisfied with mediocrity, I'd be patient too. Let the dollars keep rolling.

The main thing is that he's not an Xs and Os coach.

You never, ever, under any circumstance, even if you're a high school coach, put Joel Embiid at 7'2", 280 lbs to play power forward and run around and make him tired and unnecessarily risk injury.

If you want to experiment, Embiid stays at center, and Okafor at power forward. If it works, great. If not, change your power forward, don't remove your franchise center from his natural position.

You stick him in the center, right under the basket, where he can block shots and rebound on defense, and dunk and have hook shots and short jumpers on offense. That's it. Keep it simple.

If I was the coach, it would be a requirement on offense to have Embiid touch the ball on every possession. Inside-out game with a monster like that, not outside-in. If any of the players don't do that, sub them out and be stern about it (aka Pop's style...).


how do you know BB isnt a good coach? look at what hes had to work with. Ok he put Biid at the 4, which I dont agree but to say hes a bad coach is wrong. The truth is, we dont know if hes bad or not until we have NBA players at the guard spot
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Post#430 » by Hipster Doofus » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:40 pm

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how do you know BB isnt a good coach? look at what hes had to work with. Ok he put Biid at the 4, which I dont agree but to say hes a bad coach is wrong. The truth is, we dont know if hes bad or not until we have NBA players at the guard spot


Ok, that's true, but I didn't say he's a bad coach. He's actually a very nice and positive guy. I said people in the media go off and say "oh he's done such a wonderful job with this team, and he's amazing" and so on and so forth when his winning percentage here in the past 4 years hovers around 10-15% (regardless of personnel).

All I'm saying is I wish people toned it down a little. It's not like we have the next Popovich or Phil Jackson in here.

Truth is, at least in my opinion, Brett Brown's leash is not this year, but the end of next year. We'll get a very good guard in the draft, and Ben Simmons will be back, and so I personally am OK with Brett Brown until the end of next season. I want to see him a full season with having a) everyone healthy and b) having some good guards/playmakers in here.
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Post#431 » by eyeatoma » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:43 pm

People thought I was crazy when I said Embiid was frustrated with this plan, and more frustrated with himself... No, he's frustrated with the situation,... Annoyed that he has to play the 4... He's shocked that a 7'2" bit man, who is still regaining his mobility is being asked to guard the 4 spot, and roam around on the perimeter when he is a low block player, who plays inside out. He's bemused by the fact that weakness of this team which is defense (his strenghth), is being negated by this plan, to accommodate a player, whose weakness is defense as well...

How this plan doesn't raise red flags for Colangelo, management, and all the other coaching staff is beyond me... If this goes on for the next couple of weeks, and Embiid continues to regress, I hope they get rid of Brown by the end of the year...
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Post#432 » by Hipster Doofus » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:54 pm

I hope Embiid goes back to playing the 5 tonight. I would be very surprised (possibly shocked) if he didn't.

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Post#433 » by CoreyGallagher » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:55 pm

eyeatoma wrote:People thought I was crazy when I said Embiid was frustrated with this plan, and more frustrated with himself... No, he's frustrated with the situation,... Annoyed that he has to play the 4... He's shocked that a 7'2" bit man, who is still regaining his mobility is being asked to guard the 4 spot, and roam around on the perimeter when he is a low block player, who plays inside out. He's bemused by the fact that weakness of this team which is defense (his strenghth), is being negated by this plan, to accommodate a player, whose weakness is defense as well....

He's played 32 minutes total this season with Okafor.
http://stats.nba.com/vs/advanced/#!?PlayerID=203954&VsPlayerID=1626143

Annoyed that he has to play the 4... He's shocked that a 7'2" bit man, who is still regaining his mobility is being asked to guard the 4 spot

Read on Twitter

Doesn't frustrate him, offensively it seems to.
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Post#434 » by eyeatoma » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:58 pm

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eyeatoma wrote:People thought I was crazy when I said Embiid was frustrated with this plan, and more frustrated with himself... No, he's frustrated with the situation,... Annoyed that he has to play the 4... He's shocked that a 7'2" bit man, who is still regaining his mobility is being asked to guard the 4 spot, and roam around on the perimeter when he is a low block player, who plays inside out. He's bemused by the fact that weakness of this team which is defense (his strenghth), is being negated by this plan, to accommodate a player, whose weakness is defense as well....

He's played 32 minutes total this season with Okafor (and they're +0.4).

Annoyed that he has to play the 4... He's shocked that a 7'2" bit man, who is still regaining his mobility is being asked to guard the 4 spot

Read on Twitter

Doesn't seem to frustrate him, offensively it seems to, though.


We didn't see that benefit defensively though... Him switching on point guards is a fad. By no means do your want your 7'2" big man roaming around the perimeter picking up much faster guards... He'll do okay once in a while, but the bigger problem is that it leaves a massive hole in the middle... Where he should be patrolling...
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Post#435 » by CoreyGallagher » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:00 pm

eyeatoma wrote:We didn't see that benefit defensively though... Him switching on point guards is a fad. By no means do your want your 7'2" big man roaming around the perimeter picking up much faster guards... He'll do okay once in a while, but the bigger problem is that it leaves a massive hole in the middle... Where he should be patrolling...

Specifically referring to him supposedly being frustrated about it.
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Post#436 » by eyeatoma » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:06 pm

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eyeatoma wrote:We didn't see that benefit defensively though... Him switching on point guards is a fad. By no means do your want your 7'2" big man roaming around the perimeter picking up much faster guards... He'll do okay once in a while, but the bigger problem is that it leaves a massive hole in the middle... Where he should be patrolling...

Specifically referring to him supposedly being frustrated about it.


Okay, he didn't mention the defense too much, but it's pretty obvious when we saw it in the game. In that article with the 6 minute interview, he clearly said he wants to be dominant on the low block... He is NOT a 3 point shooter... That screams frustrations at the situation...

I do not like experiments where you ostracize a players biggest talents to accommodate a lesser player. Jah should play the four if this plan is going to continue... He needs to get better at shooting midrange, and in being at the 3 point line... The only 3's Embiid should take are the trailing threes. Yeah it looks cool for a 7'2" big man to pump fake and then drive from the 3 point line, but with his experience, and lack of agility at the moment, it is an injury waiting to happen... Especially against guards who can cross you over and literally break your ankles...
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Post#437 » by Hipster Doofus » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:07 pm

Eyeatoma, quick question aside, I noticed that you're in Indonesia. How did you become a 76ers fan? Did you live in Philly for some time, or did you have a favourite player? Just out of curiosity.
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Post#438 » by eyeatoma » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:09 pm

Canadian6ersFan wrote:Eyeatoma, quick question aside, I noticed that you're in Indonesia. How did you become a 76ers fan? Did you live in Philly for some time, or did you have a favourite player? Just out of curiosity.


Haha... I have lived internationally my whole life... My parents were teachers and I am one now as well... I teach 6th grade English and Social Studies an an international school here in Jakarta...

I got into the sixers when my sister got into Bryn Mawr in 2000... That was the same year I fell in love with the sixers and A.I.

Been a diehard sixers fan ever since... Will probably have a different location in the next 5 or so years lol... A few years back it was India...
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Post#439 » by Hipster Doofus » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:13 pm

Oh OK, that's very cool. Funny how we become fans for life in the strangest of circumstances. Glad you stuck with the team through thick and thin.
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Post#440 » by CoreyGallagher » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:14 pm

But by accommodating a lesser player the team has benefited from it to this point, so, are we ostracizing his biggest talents or benefiting from his versatility?

Hypothetically that is, I'm not even speaking about his opinion on the matter, obviously you don't do it if he's that opposed to it.
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