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Game 27: Phoenix Suns (8-18) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (15-11)

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Re: Game 27: Phoenix Suns (8-18) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (15-11) 

Post#81 » by ATTL » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:23 am

Did Westbrook pose on that last assist.
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Re: Game 27: Phoenix Suns (8-18) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (15-11) 

Post#82 » by thamadkant » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:26 am

cosmofizzo wrote:I thought Len looked good tonight. Not without his warts, but about the only thing we had going in the second.

Is BK just emotionally fragile? What is this ****?



Len looked good?

I suppose the standards have been lowered enough.


I want the Suns to look good.. Even if they lose... I want to see a team that has potential, a team that competes... This team is packed of players playing for their own stats and phoning in games.
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Re: Game 27: Phoenix Suns (8-18) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (15-11) 

Post#83 » by OGBAH » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:30 am

Didn't watch what happened with Warren 12min?
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Re: Game 27: Phoenix Suns (8-18) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (15-11) 

Post#84 » by DirtyDez » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:34 am

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cosmofizzo wrote:PJ and Chandler back on the court. Guess that means I'm looking forward to the next game. *click*


Yeah I switched to unc uk game a couple minutes ago. It's unreal how bad we are.


Malik Monk is putting on a performance for the ages.
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Re: Game 27: Phoenix Suns (8-18) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (15-11) 

Post#85 » by Jdiddy701 » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:35 am

Never seen an NBA player regress as bad as Brandon Knight has. Get rid of that bum


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Re: Game 27: Phoenix Suns (8-18) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (15-11) 

Post#86 » by jeff2020 » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:37 am

DirtyDez wrote:
jeff2020 wrote:
cosmofizzo wrote:PJ and Chandler back on the court. Guess that means I'm looking forward to the next game. *click*


Yeah I switched to unc uk game a couple minutes ago. It's unreal how bad we are.


Malik Monk is putting on a performance for the ages.


No kidding. Terrible d by unc on that last 3 he hit but good lord he can't miss
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Re: Game 27: Phoenix Suns (8-18) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (15-11) 

Post#87 » by Frank Lee » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:37 am

I forgot how unwatchable this team is... time to go back to unwatching.
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Re: Game 27: Phoenix Suns (8-18) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (15-11) 

Post#88 » by DaleyBlind » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:41 am

OGBAH wrote:Didn't watch what happened with Warren 12min?


PJ Tucker happened
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Re: Game 27: Phoenix Suns (8-18) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (15-11) 

Post#89 » by Saberestar » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:42 am

Step by step. We need to make some changes, but I want to see those two first:

1.Trade Knight ASAP.
2. Give Knight's minutes to Ulis.
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Re: Game 27: Phoenix Suns (8-18) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (15-11) 

Post#90 » by DaleyBlind » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:42 am

1UPZ wrote:No one else really want to call it?

Suns players playing for stats and individual glory?


If they are playing for stats and individual glory.....they are doing it wrong
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Post#91 » by Damkac » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:44 am

Saberestar wrote:Step by step. We need to makes some changes, but I want to see those two first:

1.Trade Knight ASAP.
2. Give Knight's minutes to Ulis.

3.Trade Tucker ASAP.
4. Give Tucker's minutes to Bender.
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Re: Game 27: Phoenix Suns (8-18) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (15-11) 

Post#92 » by Saberestar » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:46 am

DaleyBlind wrote:
OGBAH wrote:Didn't watch what happened with Warren 12min?


PJ Tucker happened

IMO Warren is not ready to play too many minutes for now. He is just getting fully healthy..probably in less than a week he can start for us again.
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Re: Game 27: Phoenix Suns (8-18) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (15-11) 

Post#93 » by thamadkant » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:56 am

DaleyBlind wrote:
1UPZ wrote:No one else really want to call it?

Suns players playing for stats and individual glory?


If they are playing for stats and individual glory.....they are doing it wrong




Thata the point... Seeing mediocre players trying to score one on one is stupid and certainly doing it wrong.
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Re: Game 27: Phoenix Suns (8-18) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (15-11) 

Post#94 » by thamadkant » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:57 am

Warren looked skinnier IMO.

And he looked lost tonight expectedly.

He didnt get much touches.
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Re: Game 27: Phoenix Suns (8-18) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (15-11) 

Post#95 » by thamadkant » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:58 am

The suns being a high tempo team but amongst the poorest assists teams is clear evidence of selfish plays and players trying to do their own thing.
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Re: Game 27: Phoenix Suns (8-18) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (15-11) 

Post#96 » by DaleyBlind » Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:11 am

1UPZ wrote:The suns being a high tempo team but amongst the poorest assists teams is clear evidence of selfish plays and players trying to do their own thing.


It comes down to the coach as well, he is allowing it too happen. He doesn't play Ullis at all who is the best distributor on the team.
He also doesn't have an offensive system from what I can tell.
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Re: Game 27: Phoenix Suns (8-18) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (15-11) 

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Re: Game 27: Phoenix Suns (8-18) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (15-11) 

Post#98 » by carey » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:07 am

DaleyBlind wrote:McDonough better be on the phones right now


We have to face the fact that either he has been trying & up to this point has been unable to find a trade partner or his plan has been to tank this season all along. This loss is nothing we haven't seen many times already this year. The only difference is that it's the 2nd game post December 15th which is generally considered the unofficial start of trade season.
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Re: Game 27: Phoenix Suns (8-18) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (15-11) 

Post#99 » by TeamTragic » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:11 am

1UPZ wrote:
cosmofizzo wrote:I thought Len looked good tonight. Not without his warts, but about the only thing we had going in the second.

Is BK just emotionally fragile? What is this ****?



Len looked good?

I suppose the standards have been lowered enough.


I want the Suns to look good.. Even if they lose... I want to see a team that has potential, a team that competes... This team is packed of players playing for their own stats and phoning in games.


You have no idea how low the standards are right now. Len is near the bottom with Knight which is quite sad. What a waste.
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Re: Game 27: Phoenix Suns (8-18) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (15-11) 

Post#100 » by bwgood77 » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:19 am

carey wrote:
DaleyBlind wrote:McDonough better be on the phones right now


We have to face the fact that either he has been trying & up to this point has been unable to find a trade partner or his plan has been to tank this season all along. This loss is nothing we haven't seen many times already this year. The only difference is that it's the 2nd game post December 15th which is generally considered the unofficial start of trade season.


The thing is, VERY few trades go down until near the trade deadline because people are only going to put all the chips on the table when they are up against the deadline. Also, more teams will know if they are aiming for the playoffs or developing young players at that point.

The thing is, I don't know how beneficial it is to hold out for too long with someone like Knight or Tucker. Obviously if you can get a first round pick it's worth it, but who knows if you can?

It was a mistake to hold out for a 2nd rounder for Archie, cutting Troy Williams, who now starts for the current 5 seed Grizzlies who have been missing Conley for a while.

I don't know that getting a slightly better deal is that worth it, but the opposing teams that might be interested in PJ and Knight or anyone else are likely checking out other team's players as well and seeing if they can be had for cheaper. There are just too many reasons for both sides to wait until the last minute. For the Suns, as far as the season goes, they might think what do they have to lose? But they could be losing out on any additional development that may occur if actual playing time helps with that. Also, the fan base needs a big injection of life right now, even if it's just seeing a rookie play more. I don't think anyone these days is buying tickets to go see Knight or Tucker play. They might be excited to go see Ulis and Bender play though, even if they struggle. They have certainly both shown flashes of excitement.

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