Game 28: Phoenix Suns (8-19) @ Minnesota Timberwolves (7-19) - 8:00 PM ET

[PackSuns]

You see, I dont see how thats McDonoughs fault. All that is Earl Watson and the coaching staffs fault. (I know McDonough hired Watson)

Yeah ok, fair enough. I hate Watson.

I feel bad for Watson. Rookie head coach trying to rebuild. I'm sure he is getting pulled a bunch of directions. He could become a great coach someday. Unfortunately, I don't think it will be with the Suns. There is always a fall guy.

[bwgood77]

Dont agree with this, Look at where we 4 years ago compared to now.

Roster 4 Years ago
Dragic, Morris Twins, Tucker, Beasley, Shannon Brown, Dudley, Gortat, W. Johsnon, Marshall, Scola, J. O Neal, Telfair. GARBAGE TREADMILL CRAP

Roster Now
Bledsoe, Booker, Warren, Len, Knight, Chandler, Bender, Chriss, Dudley, Tucker.

Add the Miami picks as well, we are in a way better shape. Sure he has made some mistakes ( Knight/Laker pick trade) .
He has tried to get that star FA - Eric Gordon/Aldridge/Lebron...so its not via lack of trying.

We are going in the right direction. The only thing we have not done is add that Superstar he wants, but **** that aint an easy task.
I suppose im not as angry because i was not expecting a quick rebuild.

I agree here. It seems some of the people who are mad and want to make major adjustments now really expected us to make the playoffs this year. I was surprised at how many did. I mean every writer, vegas over/unders, etc had us in the bottom 3 or 4 teams because of our youth and roster.

I'm not disappointed about the results, but more disappointed we are not just playing some of the younger guys more.

I'll disagree with this. I don't think myself nor Packsuns nor the majority of Suns fans were expecting a quick rebuild or playoffs, far from it. I was, however, expecting improvement, which I haven't seen.

We don't have to be playoff better but c'mon, some consistency please. Show me our team recognise what our strengths is/are and exploit the crap out of it on the court. I haven't seen that. We have no system, certain players don't seem to play hard every game and we're just not fun to watch. Throw in a couple of RAW rookies who look like chickens running round with their heads chopped off and it's just ugly, non-fundamental basketball.

Well, I didn't say building with raw rookies and super young players was going to be pretty.

No, I don't think the majority were thinking the Suns would make the playoffs, but some thought we would or would be close.

We have actually played some teams fairly close, and some good teams.

Part of the big problem as of last is Warren has been missing for like a month, and he was our brightest spot to start the season. Everyone seemed fairly happy with what we saw before he mysteriously got injured. So perhaps once he gets back to full form things will look better.

[TeamTragic]

McDonough has to go. Professional sports are all about results and he has failed HARD in his project. Four years is enough time to put a decent team on the court with plenty of upside, but the Suns are one of the worst teams in the league like when he took the job in 2013.

I love what McD has done with limited resources. Though I feel that if during this season he doesn't pull off some great trades and during this offseason he doesn't sign a quality player that this franchise can build around then honestly we should fire him.

[DaleyBlind]

Just remember we could do alot worse than Ryan McDonough...we dont want a Vlade Divac running the show

[DaleyBlind]

McDonough has to go. Professional sports are all about results and he has failed HARD in his project. Four years is enough time to put a decent team on the court with plenty of upside, but the Suns are one of the worst teams in the league like when he took the job in 2013.

I love what McD has done with limited resources. Though I feel that if during this season he doesn't pull off some great trades and during this offseason he doesn't sign a quality player that this franchise can build around then honestly we should fire him.

I sorta agree. As long as makes smart trades and signings im happy to keep putting my faith in him.
At some point he needs to make a splash trade/signing though to net us a star (Or perhaps we have already drafted him/draft him this year)

[lilfishi22]

Well, I didn't say building with raw rookies and super young players was going to be pretty.

No, I don't think the majority were thinking the Suns would make the playoffs, but some thought we would or would be close.

We have actually played some teams fairly close, and some good teams.

Part of the big problem as of last is Warren has been missing for like a month, and he was our brightest spot to start the season. Everyone seemed fairly happy with what we saw before he mysteriously got injured. So perhaps once he gets back to full form things will look better.

It doesn't need to look like a Nash run team but we're almost letting the rookies do what they want on the court. The fact that we got some production from them tells more about their raw talent than their actual ability to contribute. Every now and then, they will unknowingly tap into that well of potential and grab an amazing rebound, block a shot or find an open dunk. If only there was some way or someone who could put them in the right places so they can draw from that talent and direct it towards a purposeful defensive or offensive play. An actual coach rather than a motivational speaker, would help.

[DaleyBlind]

Is Watson religious??? he looks religious....

[thamadkant]

Watson comned Sarver and McD

[thamadkant]

This team is clearly playing free style and no coaching nor system occurs.

[DaleyBlind]

This team is clearly playing free style and no coaching nor system occurs.

From Watsons mouth:

"Pass it. Drive it. Shoot it"

That is the scheme we are running.......In others words we dont have a scheme, he just lets them do whatever the **** they want

[Saberestar]

McDonough has to go. Professional sports are all about results and he has failed HARD in his project. Four years is enough time to put a decent team on the court with plenty of upside, but the Suns are one of the worst teams in the league like when he took the job in 2013.

Where did this come from?

At every job people need to show results and progress. The NBA is not different, McDonough has been our GM four consecutive years and we have not get good results or improvement over those years. It is simple.

He has had rights and wrongs, but at the end of the day the Suns are at the same extremely bad position than four years ago.

[Saberestar]

McDonough has to go. Professional sports are all about results and he has failed HARD in his project. Four years is enough time to put a decent team on the court with plenty of upside, but the Suns are one of the worst teams in the league like when he took the job in 2013.

Dont agree with this, Look at where we 4 years ago compared to now.

Roster 4 Years ago
Dragic, Morris Twins, Tucker, Beasley, Shannon Brown, Dudley, Gortat, W. Johsnon, Marshall, Scola, J. O Neal, Telfair. GARBAGE TREADMILL CRAP

Roster Now
Bledsoe, Booker, Warren, Len, Knight, Chandler, Bender, Chriss, Dudley, Tucker.

Add the Miami picks as well, we are in a way better shape. Sure he has made some mistakes ( Knight/Laker pick trade) .
He has tried to get that star FA - Eric Gordon/Aldridge/Lebron...so its not via lack of trying.

We are going in the right direction. The only thing we have not done is add that Superstar he wants, but **** that aint an easy task.
I suppose im not as angry because i was not expecting a quick rebuild.

I think that I overrated our current roster a lot. I thought that this year's roster was good enough to be competitive and get over 40 wins, but I was wrong.

If you look closely that 2012-2013 roster it is not worse than our current roster. An starting five with Dragic, Dudley, Marcus, Markieff and Gortat is probably better than the starting five that we have four years later. Dragic and Gortat are not worse than Bledsoe and Chandler, that's obvious to me.

The big difference between that team and our actual roster are Chriss and Bender, they have upside.
BUT they are raw as hell and can be a bust or good players, but we are not going to know nothing for sure until probably 2020 because they are just 19 years old and they lack a ton of skills/experience/strength.

I am a little bit pessimistic today because our play the last four or five games has been near unwatchable...I expect to gain some hope in the next few games.

[Fo-Real]

Tj Warren looks like his minor head injury was a full lobotomy, looks like a wandering zombie out there, looks nothing like his former self.

[PackSuns]

Tj Warren looks like his minor head injury was a full lobotomy, looks like a wandering zombie out there, looks nothing like his former self.

As someone who has watched him play for 10+ yrs it makes me really nervous how he is moving his body. It doesn't look like TJ.

[thamadkant]

Warren looks like a different player.


Minor injury my azz