Official Thread - Wizards at Rockets (1/2/17)

[NatP4]

So what you're saying is, one coach made adjustments and the other is an idiot. Our starters get destroyed by 20 in the 3rd quarter, wall and Beal can't attack a switch and it's ernies fault for not signing Eric Gordon.

One obvious adjustment would've been to play wall Beal Oubre Porter Gortat, but Brooks decided Marcus Thornton was the answer. Thornton played almost 13 straight minutes LOL.

Wall played 37 minutes
Gortat played 40
Beal played 35 coming off an ankle injury
Oubre played 23 minutes without scoring a point.
Porter played 33 minutes and was off

Someone else from the bench had to play. Brooks doesn't have any good choices to back up Beal.

With a few minutes left in the 2nd quarter, I could see the Wiz energy took a dive - particularly Wall - who was playing great until then. It was obvious in the way he was moving that he needed a break. They need to find ways to play without Wall and give him regular breaks. And Oubre has been pretty bad ever since he came back from the concussion.

Kelly's D on harden kept us in the game. Thornton had no business being on the court. Thornton hasn't collected a single DNP all year, how are we not blaming Brooks for that at all lol

It's Marcus **** Thornton

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Wall played 37 minutes
Gortat played 40
Beal played 35 coming off an ankle injury
Oubre played 23 minutes without scoring a point.
Porter played 33 minutes and was off

Someone else from the bench had to play. Brooks doesn't have any good choices to back up Beal.

With a few minutes left in the 2nd quarter, I could see the Wiz energy took a dive - particularly Wall - who was playing great until then. It was obvious in the way he was moving that he needed a break. They need to find ways to play without Wall and give him regular breaks. And Oubre has been pretty bad ever since he came back from the concussion.

Kelly's D on harden kept us in the game. Thornton had no business being on the court. Thornton hasn't collected a single DNP all year, how are we not blaming Brooks for that at all lol

It's Marcus **** Thornton

Wow!! The Nat wrote something one can agree with -- it's true; Oubre played great D on Harden.

For the rest...? You don't have to be a fan of Thornton to understand that we don't have anyone better to back up Beal. But, that's on the guy who decided that a vet minimum player would do as our backup SG.

Yes, I'd like to see more of McClellan, and I'd be happy for his minutes to come at Thornton's expense. But lets do keep in mind that 60 teams passed on Sheldon last year. He's not exactly what you'd call an obvious candidate for primary backup at the 2 either.

We don't have a lot of good players. That's why we often have bad ones on the floor.

[Ruzious]

But the team didn't take advantage of Harden's poor offensive game, because the Wiz offense stunk - and Oubre was a part of the offensive problem. Oubre's 10 for 38 from the field in his last 8 games, and he's played plenty of minutes. Both Oubre and Thornton have been problems.

[Meliorus]

With a few minutes left in the 2nd quarter, I could see the Wiz energy took a dive - particularly Wall - who was playing great until then. It was obvious in the way he was moving that he needed a break. They need to find ways to play without Wall and give him regular breaks. And Oubre has been pretty bad ever since he came back from the concussion.

Kelly's D on harden kept us in the game. Thornton had no business being on the court. Thornton hasn't collected a single DNP all year, how are we not blaming Brooks for that at all lol

It's Marcus **** Thornton

Wow!! The Nat wrote something one can agree with -- it's true; Oubre played great D on Harden.

For the rest...? You don't have to be a fan of Thornton to understand that we don't have anyone better to back up Beal. But, that's on the guy who decided that a vet minimum player would do as our backup SG.

Yes, I'd like to see more of McClellan, and I'd be happy for his minutes to come at Thornton's expense. But lets do keep in mind that 60 teams passed on Sheldon last year. He's not exactly what you'd call an obvious candidate for primary backup at the 2 either.

We don't have a lot of good players. That's why we often have bad ones on the floor.

This is it. You know you're screwed when your only OPTIONS at backup SG are Thornton, McClellan, and Sato. All 3 have cases for not being NBA players (all 3 are probably not). And who is responsible for giving Brooks these OPTIONS???

[Da ThRONe]

Brooks problem is he's playing Wall too many minutes. John's coming off dual knee surgeries. When Statoranky and Burke play was poor he was forced too. Burke has been producing enough to spell Wall more mins per game. Keep your guy fresh it's a long season.

[Dat2U]

Burke has been producing enough to spell Wall more mins per game. Keep your guy fresh it's a long season.

No he hasn't. He's not even capable of getting the team into their offensive sets. He can't handle ball pressure. He's not capable of being a backup PG. What he is.... Is and undersized SG that is capable of getting hot once in a blue moon.

Lately they've had Beal or Thornton intiate the offense because Burke is unable to. That's part of the reason Thornton plays over McClellan. The only other PG we have is Sato but it seems like his confidence is completely shot.

[Da ThRONe]

Burke has been producing enough to spell Wall more mins per game. Keep your guy fresh it's a long season.

No he hasn't. He's not even capable of getting the team into their offensive sets. He can't handle ball pressure. He's not capable of being a backup PG. What he is.... Is and undersized SG that is capable of getting hot once in a blue moon.

Lately they've had Beal or Thornton intiate the offense because Burke is unable to. That's part of the reason Thornton plays over McClellan. The only other PG we have is Sato but it seems like his confidence is completely shot.

This is just completely false, and old. People are hanging on to a preconceived notion of Burke and can't come to terms with the fact that his play has stabilized that bench. That's with Thornton taking really questionable shots.

[gambitx777]

IDK how to fix tomas, Like he is a monster in waiting. the dude has amazing handles, he is a athlete athlete, and he has a great BB IQ, his defence is good too. But his shot is gone, it's not carrying over, (yet, it should, but not yet). he just needs to shoot, like there is no way around it. They need to break it down to the fundamental, set him up in the nba shooting spots and make him run, catch and shoot, and run dribble and shoot. reps, reps, reps, reps. Every day. Cu hes not getting playing time to do it.

[NatP4]

IDK how to fix tomas, Like he is a monster in waiting. the dude has amazing handles, he is a athlete athlete, and he has a great BB IQ, his defence is good too. But his shot is gone, it's not carrying over, (yet, it should, but not yet). he just needs to shoot, like there is no way around it. They need to break it down to the fundamental, set him up in the nba shooting spots and make him run, catch and shoot, and run dribble and shoot. reps, reps, reps, reps. Every day. Cu hes not getting playing time to do it.

Probably play Thornton more, cause it's the only option Brooks has apparently. LOL

[NatP4]

Wall was awful in the 2nd half and the starters were outscored 37-17 in the 3rd people are blaming the bench and Ernie lol

[tontoz]

Burke has been playing a lot with Wall so he can play off the ball and focus on shooting. When he actually has to handle the backup pg duties he has been bad.

[Dat2U]

Burke has been producing enough to spell Wall more mins per game. Keep your guy fresh it's a long season.

No he hasn't. He's not even capable of getting the team into their offensive sets. He can't handle ball pressure. He's not capable of being a backup PG. What he is.... Is and undersized SG that is capable of getting hot once in a blue moon.

Lately they've had Beal or Thornton intiate the offense because Burke is unable to. That's part of the reason Thornton plays over McClellan. The only other PG we have is Sato but it seems like his confidence is completely shot.

This is just completely false, and old. People are hanging on to a preconceived notion of Burke and can't come to terms with the fact that his play has stabilized that bench. That's with Thornton taking really questionable shots.

False and old? Preconceived notions? Are you trolling me lol? Are you part of Burke's fan club?

The only reason Burke has gained enough confidence to make a few shots because the coaching staff relieved some of his burden on the ball. Burke has done nothing to stabilize the bench. The bench is still terrible! He had A good game and a stretch of play that was replacement level worthy. That doesn't mean he's suddenly a reliable backup PG. He's still an undersized SG and terrible defender who's playable/unplayable based on whether he's making shots or not.

[gambitx777]

IDK how to fix tomas, Like he is a monster in waiting. the dude has amazing handles, he is a athlete athlete, and he has a great BB IQ, his defence is good too. But his shot is gone, it's not carrying over, (yet, it should, but not yet). he just needs to shoot, like there is no way around it. They need to break it down to the fundamental, set him up in the nba shooting spots and make him run, catch and shoot, and run dribble and shoot. reps, reps, reps, reps. Every day. Cu hes not getting playing time to do it.

Probably play Thornton more, cause it's the only option Brooks has apparently. LOL

I don't think its that easy, I think you need to fix his shot, Which it is fixable. Its not a mechanic issue, its a release speed and adjustment to the league issue. Break it down, build it up then. end him to the D leafue let him kill it there for a bit and then bring him in or just being him in bu it needs fixed.

[nate33]

IDK how to fix tomas, Like he is a monster in waiting. the dude has amazing handles, he is a athlete athlete, and he has a great BB IQ, his defence is good too. But his shot is gone, it's not carrying over, (yet, it should, but not yet). he just needs to shoot, like there is no way around it. They need to break it down to the fundamental, set him up in the nba shooting spots and make him run, catch and shoot, and run dribble and shoot. reps, reps, reps, reps. Every day. Cu hes not getting playing time to do it.

I agree with this, but it takes time. You don't develop a reliable NBA jumper in a month. It's going to take an offseason.

[DCZards]

IDK how to fix tomas, Like he is a monster in waiting. the dude has amazing handles, he is a athlete athlete, and he has a great BB IQ, his defence is good too. But his shot is gone, it's not carrying over, (yet, it should, but not yet). he just needs to shoot, like there is no way around it. They need to break it down to the fundamental, set him up in the nba shooting spots and make him run, catch and shoot, and run dribble and shoot. reps, reps, reps, reps. Every day. Cu hes not getting playing time to do it.

Your prescription for what the Zards need to be doing to help Sato become a better NBA player is right on target. I assume it's what he's been working on in practice. I too believe that he has the handles, athleticism and IQ to be successful.

[gambitx777]

I would just like to know what they are doing with him. So they better be working him in practice.... like come on, send him to the D league, but **** let us know whats going on.