2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread

Unbreakable99 · Post #1181 » by **Unbreakable99** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:28 pm

I still think before it's said and done Josh Hart will be a mid first rounder. He's going to make some team very happy.

Negrodamus · Post #1182 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:32 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:I still think before it's said and done Josh Hart will be a mid first rounder. He's going to make some team very happy.

In the same vein, Sindarius Thornwell has a BPM of 16.8 through 9 games with a PER of 31.8.

He's still playing out of his mind since his return from suspension. Definitely a guy to keep an eye on.

cksdayoff · Post #1183 » by **cksdayoff** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:29 am

tatum's killing me. i don't like him, even when he's putting up numbers.

eagereyez · Post #1184 » by **eagereyez** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:02 am

cksdayoff wrote:tatum's killing me. i don't like him, even when he's putting up numbers.

Kinda reminds me of Okafor in some ways. Not locked in defensively and in love with inefficient long 2s
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cksdayoff · Post #1185 » by **cksdayoff** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:07 am

eagereyez wrote:
cksdayoff wrote:tatum's killing me. i don't like him, even when he's putting up numbers.

Kinda reminds me of Okafor in some ways. Not locked in defensively and in love with inefficient long 2s.

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he looks like a blackhole, and his handles need work and he doesn't look all that athletic, and he looks a bit stiff...

but apparently everyone loves him as a prospect. He certainly has the measurables and people say his game is tailor-made for the nba...we'll see

HankTheTank · Post #1186 » by **HankTheTank** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:54 am

Watching Kansas/Oklahoma. Announcers quoting Kansas coaching staff-- Josh Jackson has a competitive KG type streak and has completely transformed the team's attitude in the weight room -- where he is a beast."

XDevilBoiX · Post #1187 » by **XDevilBoiX** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:47 am

I don't see Sixers finishing in the top 3, maybe luck out and win the lottery (hopefully a handshake deal with the Commish for bringing in JC, we get two No.1s in a row). Say we get the 6th(ours) and Lakers pick at 7. I don't have time to follow college basketball, do we still get a good winger and pg at those slots?

LordCovington33 · Post #1188 » by **LordCovington33** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:13 am

XDevilBoiX wrote:I don't see Six[b]ers finishing in the top 3, maybe luck out and win the lottery (hopefully a handshake deal with the Commish for bringing in JC, we get two No.1s in a row)[/b]. Say we get the 6th(ours) and Lakers pick at 7. I don't have time to follow college basketball, do we still get a good winger and pg at those slots?

A representative from each lottery team is present for the draw and they have a list of the 1000 combinations and the team who gets each combination. As the ping pong balls are being drawn, they can see which team has that combination. Members of the media are also present. There is no way they can rig it. Youtube nba lottery draw.

XDevilBoiX · Post #1189 » by **XDevilBoiX** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:16 am

simmbiid wrote:
XDevilBoiX wrote:I don't see Six[b]ers finishing in the top 3, maybe luck out and win the lottery (hopefully a handshake deal with the Commish for bringing in JC, we get two No.1s in a row)[/b]. Say we get the 6th(ours) and Lakers pick at 7. I don't have time to follow college basketball, do we still get a good winger and pg at those slots?

A representative from each lottery team is present for the draw and they have a list of the 1000 combinations and the team who gets each combination. As the ping pong balls are being drawn, they can see which team has that combination. Members of the media are also present. There is no way they can rig it. Youtube nba lottery draw.

Oh I know, was just saying. Cleveland got 2 no.1 picks in a row so that can happen for us.

LordCovington33 · Post #1190 » by **LordCovington33** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:23 am

XDevilBoiX wrote:
simmbiid wrote:
XDevilBoiX wrote:I don't see Six[b]ers finishing in the top 3, maybe luck out and win the lottery (hopefully a handshake deal with the Commish for bringing in JC, we get two No.1s in a row)[/b]. Say we get the 6th(ours) and Lakers pick at 7. I don't have time to follow college basketball, do we still get a good winger and pg at those slots?

A representative from each lottery team is present for the draw and they have a list of the 1000 combinations and the team who gets each combination. As the ping pong balls are being drawn, they can see which team has that combination. Members of the media are also present. There is no way they can rig it. Youtube nba lottery draw.

Oh I know, was just saying. Cleveland got 2 no.1 picks in a row so that can happen for us.

Extremely lucky and I am still annoyed about that. Only thing that would annoy me more would be Boston getting the next two. :banghead:

Cheatergriffin · Post #1191 » by **Cheatergriffin** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:25 am

This draft is probably tbe deepest draft for the guard position in years and maybe deepest since 03.

Cheatergriffin · Post #1192 » by **Cheatergriffin** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:34 am

Ball,fultz,jackson, ntilikina just name a few guard prospects and theres at least 2-3 more who could turn out to be solid pros

smittybanton · Post #1193 » by **smittybanton** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:16 pm

Cheatergriffin wrote:Ball,fultz,jackson, ntilikina just name a few guard prospects and theres at least 2-3 more who could turn out to be solid pros

I've been on the bandwagon for Devonte Graham for awhile. A lot of people like Juwan Evans. I have a thing for WVU's Jevon Carter. 3:1 assist to turnover ratio, combined with twice as many steals as turnovers.

I really like 6'6" Malcolm Hill, out of Illinois, as well.

A little off the radar, I kinda dig my streetballers, Shamorie Ponds (St. Johns/NYC), JaQuan Newton (UMiami/Philly).

Love this draft for us!

Negrodamus · Post #1194 » by **Negrodamus** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:35 pm

smittybanton wrote:
Cheatergriffin wrote:Ball,fultz,jackson, ntilikina just name a few guard prospects and theres at least 2-3 more who could turn out to be solid pros

I've been on the bandwagon for Devonte Graham for awhile. A lot of people like Juwan Evans. I have a thing for WVU's Jevon Carter. 3:1 assist to turnover ratio, combined with twice as many steals as turnovers.

I really like 6'6" Malcolm Hill, out of Illinois, as well.

A little off the radar, I kinda dig my streetballers, Shamorie Ponds (St. Johns/NYC), JaQuan Newton (UMiami/Philly).

Love this draft for us!

Shake Milton (SMU) is another one. 6'6-6'7 PG/SG that has elite vision. Huge wingspan. I'd love to take a chance on him.

SelfishPlayer · Post #1195 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:03 pm

This is a worthy draft for which to tank, and it seems like the Sixers are willing to screw it up by winning games. I'm now in tank mode so Sergio and Henderson need to be starting. The Sixers should be willing to do whatever needs to be done to expedite them getting back on the floor ASAP. All of the top college PGs will be going top 6 IMO. Fultz, Ball, Smith, and Fox. This is no time to let TJ and Ersan play the Sixers into reduced lottery balls.

Ericb5 · Post #1196 » by **Ericb5** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:26 pm

SelfishPlayer wrote:This is a worthy draft for which to tank, and it seems like the Sixers are willing to screw it up by winning games. I'm now in tank mode so Sergio and Henderson need to be starting. The Sixers should be willing to do whatever needs to be done to expedite them getting back on the floor ASAP. All of the top college PGs will be going top 6 IMO. Fultz, Ball, Smith, and Fox. This is no time to let TJ and Ersan play the Sixers into reduced lottery balls.

We will be in the top 6. We aren't going to win anymore than 25 games or so.

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smittybanton · Post #1197 » by **smittybanton** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:17 pm

Jonathan Isaac stifled Jayson Tatum on more than one occasion last night. I question Isaac's ceiling. But I do think he will be a good player for a long time because of his defense. I think Isaac plays more like Myles Turner than Brandon Ingram--with Isaac being a slightly better ballhandler, while Turner has just a little more girth.

As for Tatum, I'm cooling off just a little. Haven't looked at the numbers, but the last few games it looks like he doesnt finish in traffic very well. I don't think he's more athletic than TJ Leaf by much, if at all.

Still, Tatum's ballhandling and defense are far better than I expected. The way Duke has him bringing the ball up suggests he could play all the wing positions.

smittybanton · Post #1198 » by **smittybanton** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:32 pm

Jonathan Motley 8pts (3-10, 0-0, 2-4) 5rbs, 2asts, 3blks, 3to
Jevon Carter 17pts (6-13, 3-7, 2-4) 3rbs, 7asts, 5stls, 2to
Landon Lucas 10pts, 13rbs, 3asts, 2to
Frank Mason 28pts (11-20, 5-6, 1-2) 3rbs, 5asts, 2stls, 3to
Devonte Graham 13pts (4-11, 3-8, 2-2) 4rbs, 5asts, 2stls, 0to
Svi Mykhailiuk 9pts (3-11, 3-8, 0-0) 9rbs, ast, stl, 0to
Josh Jackson 16pts (5-11, 0-3, 6-8) 4rbs, 3asts, stl, 2to
Khadeem Lattin 8pts, 11rbs, ast, stl, 5blks, 2to
Edmond Sumner 11pts (3-15, 1-5, 4-6) 4rbs, 2asts, blk, 3to
Jason Hart 20pts (7-16, 2-7, 4-6) 6rbs, 5asts, stl, 4to
Mikal Bridges 5pts (2-4, 1-3, 0-0) 5rbs, 2asts, 2stls, 2to
Edrice Adebayo 14pts (3-4, 0-0, 8-10) 7rbs, 0stcks, to
Malik Monk 18pts (6-15, 1-4, 5-6) rb, ast, stl, 0to
Isaiah Briscoe 23pts (10-18, 0-1, 3-4) 7rbs, 5asts, 0stcks, to
DeAaron Fox 22pts (11-17, 0-1, 0-0) 5rbs, 2ast, stl, to
Jayson Tatum 21pts (7-17, 3-6, 4-5) 4rbs, stl, 4to
Harry Giles 5pts/3pf/10min
Grayson Allen 9pts (2-6, 0-3, 5-7) 3rbs, 5asts, 3to
Luke Kennard 23pts/40min (8-15, 2-6, 5-6) 3rbs, 2asts, stl, 2to
Marques Bolden 4min
Frank Jackson 3pts/4pf (0-5, 0-4, 3-4)
Jonathan Isaac 11pts/20min (4-7, 0-1, 3-4) 5rbs, ast, 2stls, blk, to
Dwayne Macon 13pts (6-15, 1-2, 0-0) 6rbs, 5asts, 2stls, 7to
Terrance Mann 13pts (6-7, 0-0, 1-2) 7rbs, ast, stl 2to
Devin Robinson 8pts (3-8, 0-2, 2-3) 6rbs, 2stls, blk, to
Tyler Lydon 2pts/29min (1-5, 0-2, 0-0) 7rbs, ast, stl, 0to
Thomas Bryant, Jr. 6pts (2-8, 0-2, 2-2) 7rbs, 2asts, 3blks, 2to
OG Anunoby 5pts (2-9, 0-2, 1-1) 3rbs, ast, stl, 2to
Melo Trimble 18pts (5-16, 0-2, 8-10) 2rbs, 3asts, 0stcks, 3to
Jalen Poyser 10pts 92-13, 2-7, 4-4) 3rbs, 5asts, 0stcks, to

Unbreakable99 · Post #1199 » by **Unbreakable99** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:14 pm

SelfishPlayer wrote:This is a worthy draft for which to tank, and it seems like the Sixers are willing to screw it up by winning games. I'm now in tank mode so Sergio and Henderson need to be starting. The Sixers should be willing to do whatever needs to be done to expedite them getting back on the floor ASAP. All of the top college PGs will be going top 6 IMO. Fultz, Ball, Smith, and Fox. This is no time to let TJ and Ersan play the Sixers into reduced lottery balls.

I hear you. I was just like you for the last 3 years. I hated wins. I rooted for losses. I'm probably the most hardcore root for losses guy over the last 3 years. In fact you can take probably out. I am the most hardcore root for losses guy. That all changed when we got Simmons though. Tanking is all about getting a star or stars. We had Embiid and I was very high on him but wanted to keep tanking because he was injured. Then we got Okafor and I wanted to keep tanking because I didn't think he was the other star. Then we got Simmons. Now I root for wins. I no longer root for losses. I realize we need one more piece who is a guard though but I don't think we will win enough to miss out on a good player. Let's say we pick 8th. Not great right? But there's a good chance someone like Fox or Smith Jr could be there. Someone good will be there. I don't think the gap in talent falls significantly from 1 to 8. We will be fine.

eagereyez · Post #1200 » by **eagereyez** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:54 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:This is a worthy draft for which to tank, and it seems like the Sixers are willing to screw it up by winning games. I'm now in tank mode so Sergio and Henderson need to be starting. The Sixers should be willing to do whatever needs to be done to expedite them getting back on the floor ASAP. All of the top college PGs will be going top 6 IMO. Fultz, Ball, Smith, and Fox. This is no time to let TJ and Ersan play the Sixers into reduced lottery balls.

I hear you. I was just like you for the last 3 years. I hated wins. I rooted for losses. I'm probably the most hardcore root for losses guy over the last 3 years. In fact you can take probably out. I am the most hardcore root for losses guy. That all changed when we got Simmons though. Tanking is all about getting a star or stars. We had Embiid and I was very high on him but wanted to keep tanking because he was injured. Then we got Okafor and I wanted to keep tanking because I didn't think he was the other star. Then we got Simmons. Now I root for wins. I no longer root for losses. I realize we need one more piece who is a guard though but I don't think we will win enough to miss out on a good player. Let's say we pick 8th. Not great right? But there's a good chance someone like Fox or Smith Jr could be there. Someone good will be there. I don't think the gap in talent falls significantly from 1 to 8. We will be fine.

Smith has been playing well recently, seems unlikely he'll be available at 8. Fox would be a terrible fit. Hopefully the Sixers can at least come away with one of Ball, Fultz, Monk, or Smith. I don't know what to think of Ntilikina yet.

I root for the long term pieces to play well and am annoyed when the 30 year old mercenaries gun us to a win.

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