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tiderulz wrote:Dennis Reynolds wrote:Vogel you are a phucking idiot. We are not making the playoffs with Green, CJ, DJ and Meeks playing big minutes. At least Meeks can be useful when he gets hot but the other three are pure trash. You might as well start preparing for the next season cause this one is lost. IDIOT!
maybe thats the plan
FFBlitzace wrote:I praised Meeks tonight, and he had a good game. But I'm tired of having bench guys like him that our coach, whoever he may be, shows way too much confidence in. When Anthony Johnson would randomly have a good game, Stan would ride his ass till the bitter end. And we would lose, every time. We saw it with Ben Gordon and Willie Green. Why can't coaches have the IQ to recognize when it's time to cash in on a player like that? Look, he gave us some good stuff, so let's quit while we're ahead with him. Is that so hard? Do the percentages really say that he's going to make 3 or 4 more shots over the final couple minutes of the game? No, they don't.
"But doesn't that same argument apply to anybody, especially Payton?"
Yes it does, but Payton's effectiveness tonight went beyond his scoring. He was getting deep into the defense and creating a lot of problems for them. And the shot may still have wound up going to Meeks, but it might have been a much better shot that he would have had a higher percentage chance of making.
SOUL wrote:FFBlitzace wrote:I praised Meeks tonight, and he had a good game. But I'm tired of having bench guys like him that our coach, whoever he may be, shows way too much confidence in. When Anthony Johnson would randomly have a good game, Stan would ride his ass till the bitter end. And we would lose, every time. We saw it with Ben Gordon and Willie Green. Why can't coaches have the IQ to recognize when it's time to cash in on a player like that? Look, he gave us some good stuff, so let's quit while we're ahead with him. Is that so hard? Do the percentages really say that he's going to make 3 or 4 more shots over the final couple minutes of the game? No, they don't.
"But doesn't that same argument apply to anybody, especially Payton?"
Yes it does, but Payton's effectiveness tonight went beyond his scoring. He was getting deep into the defense and creating a lot of problems for them. And the shot may still have wound up going to Meeks, but it might have been a much better shot that he would have had a higher percentage chance of making.
I nominate you and Forcier to combine and become our new coach.
swarlesbarkley wrote:GameOver25 wrote:Fournier for the 6th man role clearly would work for us.
Yup. We win this game if Fournier comes off the bench,
Bensational wrote:The starting lineup is looking good with Vuc and Payton back in it.
Problem is, now our bench looks like total arse because we have no real players who can score and keep the game competitive.
Maybe if Meeks became a starter and Fournier was our 6th man scorer it might help alleviate that a little? But Watson and Green shouldn't be seeing the court anymore and the FO should be the ones to acknowledge that and take the temptation out of the coach's hands.
And can someone wake Biz up to stop him just sleepwalking through games, please?
Dennis Reynolds wrote:j-ragg wrote:Dennis Reynolds wrote:Vogel you are a phucking idiot. We are not making the playoffs with Green, CJ, DJ and Meeks playing big minutes. At least Meeks can be useful when he gets hot but the other three are pure trash. You might as well start preparing for the next season cause this one is lost. IDIOT!
Dennis where were you during the game when your brethren needed you?
Couldn't watch a big part of the game. Long story. Hope you can forgive me.
I'll be taking a break from this team though. This game did it for me. Need a break from all the losses, scrubs who always seem to get minutes regardless of their play and the IDIOT who makes me wish we still had Skiles.
BadMofoPimp wrote:Durant thinks Vooch is one of the Best Centers in the NBA. I will take his word over a couch-GM yelling at a TV.
OrlandO wrote:Bensational wrote:The starting lineup is looking good with Vuc and Payton back in it.
Problem is, now our bench looks like total arse because we have no real players who can score and keep the game competitive.
Maybe if Meeks became a starter and Fournier was our 6th man scorer it might help alleviate that a little? But Watson and Green shouldn't be seeing the court anymore and the FO should be the ones to acknowledge that and take the temptation out of the coach's hands.
And can someone wake Biz up to stop him just sleepwalking through games, please?
Our bench is crap because Vogel refuses to stagger. Notice every time the bench gets crushed the opposing team has a couple starters in and we don't. Why ride bench guys doing nothing at all... for two stints.
fendilim wrote:So i just left the Die Hard Orlando Magic fans group in facebook. What a stupid group.
BadMofoPimp wrote:Durant thinks Vooch is one of the Best Centers in the NBA. I will take his word over a couch-GM yelling at a TV.
FFBlitzace wrote:I praised Meeks tonight, and he had a good game. But I'm tired of having bench guys like him that our coach, whoever he may be, shows way too much confidence in. When Anthony Johnson would randomly have a good game, Stan would ride his ass till the bitter end. And we would lose, every time. We saw it with Ben Gordon and Willie Green. Why can't coaches have the IQ to recognize when it's time to cash in on a player like that? Look, he gave us some good stuff, so let's quit while we're ahead with him. Is that so hard? Do the percentages really say that he's going to make 3 or 4 more shots over the final couple minutes of the game? No, they don't.
"But doesn't that same argument apply to anybody, especially Payton?"
Yes it does, but Payton's effectiveness tonight went beyond his scoring. He was getting deep into the defense and creating a lot of problems for them. And the shot may still have wound up going to Meeks, but it might have been a much better shot that he would have had a higher percentage chance of making.
j-ragg wrote:fendilim wrote:So i just left the Die Hard Orlando Magic fans group in facebook. What a stupid group.
I got kicked out from those weird rednecks that run it cus I disagreed about something. Literally just like a different opinion. The people posting just didn't really watch basketball very much I don't think. Not outside of Orlando at least.
j-ragg wrote:Dennis Reynolds wrote:j-ragg wrote:Dennis where were you during the game when your brethren needed you?
Couldn't watch a big part of the game. Long story. Hope you can forgive me.
I'll be taking a break from this team though. This game did it for me. Need a break from all the losses, scrubs who always seem to get minutes regardless of their play and the IDIOT who makes me wish we still had Skiles.
Ya okay. See ya Monday night.
SOUL wrote:
PennytoShaq wrote:Our bench looks bad because we didn't play Mario enough and Evan was out. Meeks moves the ball, but he is not a starting SG. If you had him next to Mario off the bench, I think we are better. Not great, but better than whatever that was tonight.