Official Thread -- Wizards @ Pistons (1/21/17 6PM)

[TheKingOfVa360]

It literally looked like Brad broke his leg on that one play and he comes back and drills both free throws and runs like hell to block the potential game winner. That's awesome

That was good to see. Beal displaying some toughness.

[stevemcqueen1]

I never realized before how much Drummond cherry picks in the lane. He almost never leaves it in their half court sets and he stays at the rim on defense. Eventually I started counting and he was in the lane for five, six seconds before the shot went up and they never called him for it.

[80sballboy]

It literally looked like Brad broke his leg on that one play and he comes back and drills both free throws and runs like hell to block the potential game winner. That's awesome

Come on. He takes a hard spill every other game and looks like he's dead. But wait, is that another jab at Wall? Geez, if we only had your boy Sato in late, we would have won.

[tontoz]

Morris and Smith were a combined 4-8 from 3. It certainly seems like Brooks is pushing them to shoot 3s instead of the long 2s. Those two will almost always be open at the 3 point line.

[Meliorus]

Watched the play again and Oubre had the rebound mid-air but Otto knocked it out of his hands and into Drummond's hands.

[NatP4]

It literally looked like Brad broke his leg on that one play and he comes back and drills both free throws and runs like hell to block the potential game winner. That's awesome

Come on. He takes a hard spill every other game and looks like he's dead. But wait, is that another jab at Wall? Geez, if we only had your boy Sato in late, we would have won.

Are you kidding me lol? So sensitive

[80sballboy]

It literally looked like Brad broke his leg on that one play and he comes back and drills both free throws and runs like hell to block the potential game winner. That's awesome

Come on. He takes a hard spill every other game and looks like he's dead. But wait, is that another jab at Wall? Geez, if we only had your boy Sato in late, we would have won.

Are you kidding me lol? So sensitive

Why am I sensitive? I critiqued John for that last possession but you seemed to question his heart as if Beal is Mr. Tough guy because he makes one play at the end after nearly dying.

[JWizmentality]

Our offense down the stretch can't be let Wall dribble the clock down and take long contested shot. Did the same garbage in N.Y.. I know John has improved the shot but it should come in rhythm off a play. And you wonder why he was 0-16 in last minute shots until recently.

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[NatP4]

Come on. He takes a hard spill every other game and looks like he's dead. But wait, is that another jab at Wall? Geez, if we only had your boy Sato in late, we would have won.

Are you kidding me lol? So sensitive

Why am I sensitive? I critiqued John for that last possession but you seemed to question his heart as if Beal is Mr. Tough guy because he makes one play at the end after nearly dying.

Because I make a comment about Beal that doesn't even mention John at all? And you somehow get offended.

But while we're on the topic, yes, I have no problem saying Beal plays with more heart than Wall. COME AT ME FANBOYS

[JWizmentality]

Are you kidding me lol? So sensitive

Why am I sensitive? I critiqued John for that last possession but you seemed to question his heart as if Beal is Mr. Tough guy because he makes one play at the end after nearly dying.

Because I make a comment about Beal that doesn't even mention John at all? And you somehow get offended.

But while we're on the topic, yes, I have no problem saying Beal plays with more heart than Wall. COME AT ME FANBOYS

Not that I care either way, but all that heart ain't resulting in better play. He's been quite frankly...putrid.

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[NatP4]

Why am I sensitive? I critiqued John for that last possession but you seemed to question his heart as if Beal is Mr. Tough guy because he makes one play at the end after nearly dying.

Because I make a comment about Beal that doesn't even mention John at all? And you somehow get offended.

But while we're on the topic, yes, I have no problem saying Beal plays with more heart than Wall. COME AT ME FANBOYS

Not that I care either way, but all that heart ain't resulting in better play. He's been quite frankly...putrid.

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Agree 100% just responding to 80s

[ClutchDJ]

Well on the plus side, Indy lost last night & will probably lose to Utah tonight. So they won't pass us in the standings.

Worried about Charlotte though.

[Jimmy Recard]

Losing at the buzzer sucks but there were some positives:

bench play, mainly smith and oubre were both really good, especially during the comeback.

We hung around despite having poor games from most of our starters. Defense in the fourth was good.

Keiff plays well with the second unit. And he's a plus defender when he's engaged. I mean his help d and his rebounding is still mediocre, but I like the fact that we can switch him onto almost anyone and he holds his own for the most part.

Negatives:

Beal sucked for the third straight game. Was good to see him at least make some plays late (the free throws and the block) but he's missing WIDE OPEN shots out there.

I don't know if all the buzz is getting to his head but Porter shouldn't be restricting himself to being just a shooter. He needs to go back to cutting and going after offensive boards to have a consistent impact offensively.

Wall is getting too cute with these pull up/fade away twos. We get something good almost every time he gets in the lane but he still reverts back to overdribbling and settling for long twos

Keiff shouldn't lead us in field goal attempts EVER.

[CobraCommander]

Losing at the buzzer sucks but there were some positives:

bench play, mainly smith and oubre were both really good, especially during the comeback.

We hung around despite having poor games from most of our starters. Defense in the fourth was good.

Keiff plays well with the second unit. And he's a plus defender when he's engaged. I mean his help d and his rebounding is still mediocre, but I like the fact that we can switch him onto almost anyone and he holds his own for the most part.

Negatives:

Beal sucked for the third straight game. Was good to see him at least make some plays late (the free throws and the block) but he's missing WIDE OPEN shots out there.

I don't know if all the buzz is getting to his head but Porter shouldn't be restricting himself to being just a shooter. He needs to go back to cutting and going after offensive boards to have a consistent impact offensively.

Wall is getting too cute with these pull up/fade away twos. We get something good almost every time he gets in the lane but he still reverts back to overdribbling and settling for long twos

Keiff shouldn't lead us in field goal attempts EVER.

If we being honest...once again...Beal cost us a game by playing LONG stretches poorly. Otto has nights like this...he is consistently inconsistent. Seems like if John sets him up for open shots...sometimes they fall but if they dont, he doesnt have a way to score when he gets the ball and he needs to create.

John took that last shot and it was odd...no one else touched the ball- he got to his spot but a fadeaway? Why when you can get to the rack at will? I know he doesnt get the calls but then that means...he is stuck shooting a 10 foot fadeaway.

And the last most important problem was....WE LOST ON A REBOUND TIP IN... we gotta hit the boards man...

[keynote]

Looking at the replay, Marcus held his twin down with the off arm, which is why he was able to outjump him for the board. I suppose we'll get the moral satisfaction of seeing that confirmed in the L2M report.

Brooks' decision to stay with the small Lineup of Mild Discomfort hurt us a bit. I understand the temptation to have four shooters on the floor. But for one: Morris isn't the screen-setter that Gortat is. Morris' screen didn't free up Wall much, so Wall was forced to try to create something out of nothing vs. Jackson -- and ended up with nothing. And the other issue is that we end up being vulnerable on the other end to offensive rebounds. We gave up three on the final possession.

Hindsight is 20/20, but I don't like leaving Gortat on the bench in those situations -- especially with Drummond on the floor.

[gambitx777]

Got to hit your FT.

[NatP4]

Looking at the replay, Marcus held his twin down with the off arm, which is why he was about to outjump him for the board. I suppose we'll get the moral satisfaction of seeing that confirmed in the L2M report.

Brooks' decision to stay with the small Lineup of Mild Discomfort hurt us a bit. I understand the temptation to have four shooters on the floor. But for one: Morris isn't the screen-setter that Gortat is. Morris' screen didn't free up Wall much, so Wall was forced to try to create something out of nothing vs. Jackson -- and ended up with nothing. And the other issue is that we end up being vulnerable on the other end to offensive rebounds. We gave up three on the final possession.

Hindsight is 20/20, but I don't like leaving Gortat on the bench in those situations -- especially with Drummond on the floor.

It wasn't the lineup of mild discomfort. Brooks has been messing up with this, he closes with Kieff instead of Gortat and there is no screen and roll guy. It's a huge mistake and the reason why Wall had to jack up a fadeaway ISO shot instead of pick and rolling and finding a wide open shooter.

Wall-Beal-Oubre-Porter-Gortat

Our best lineup plain and simple.

[keynote]

And the last most important problem was....WE LOST ON A REBOUND TIP IN... we gotta hit the boards man...

The Pistons had a beefy lineup in. Their front court: Harris/Morris/Drummond. Our lineup: Oubre/Porter/Morris. We almost had a shot at a board there (Porter and Oubre both got a hand on it), but it's not surprising that the Pistons were able to get boards.

[keynote]

Looking at the replay, Marcus held his twin down with the off arm, which is why he was about to outjump him for the board. I suppose we'll get the moral satisfaction of seeing that confirmed in the L2M report.

Brooks' decision to stay with the small Lineup of Mild Discomfort hurt us a bit. I understand the temptation to have four shooters on the floor. But for one: Morris isn't the screen-setter that Gortat is. Morris' screen didn't free up Wall much, so Wall was forced to try to create something out of nothing vs. Jackson -- and ended up with nothing. And the other issue is that we end up being vulnerable on the other end to offensive rebounds. We gave up three on the final possession.

Hindsight is 20/20, but I don't like leaving Gortat on the bench in those situations -- especially with Drummond on the floor.

It wasn't the lineup of mild discomfort. Brooks has been messing up with this, he closes with Kieff instead of Gortat and there is no screen and roll guy. It's a huge mistake and the reason why Wall had to jack up a fadeaway ISO shot instead of pick and rolling and finding a wide open shooter.

Wall-Beal-Oubre-Porter-Gortat

Our best lineup plain and simple.

As the poster who coined the phrase "Linuep of Mild Discomfort" (I think), I've been using it to refer to our version of the Dubs' Death Lineup -- no true center; Morris in the Draymond role. I agree that the Oubre/Porter/Gortat would've been a better lineup to finish tonight's game with than the LoMD, but given the Pistons' size and how close the game was, I'd have preferred to run with our starting lineup instead. Oubre wasn't exactly lighting it up from 3, and Morris is a better decisionmaker on offense. The LoMD should be reserved for smaller teams, or when we're behind and desperate to score.

[NatP4]

Looking at the replay, Marcus held his twin down with the off arm, which is why he was about to outjump him for the board. I suppose we'll get the moral satisfaction of seeing that confirmed in the L2M report.

Brooks' decision to stay with the small Lineup of Mild Discomfort hurt us a bit. I understand the temptation to have four shooters on the floor. But for one: Morris isn't the screen-setter that Gortat is. Morris' screen didn't free up Wall much, so Wall was forced to try to create something out of nothing vs. Jackson -- and ended up with nothing. And the other issue is that we end up being vulnerable on the other end to offensive rebounds. We gave up three on the final possession.

Hindsight is 20/20, but I don't like leaving Gortat on the bench in those situations -- especially with Drummond on the floor.

It wasn't the lineup of mild discomfort. Brooks has been messing up with this, he closes with Kieff instead of Gortat and there is no screen and roll guy. It's a huge mistake and the reason why Wall had to jack up a fadeaway ISO shot instead of pick and rolling and finding a wide open shooter.

Wall-Beal-Oubre-Porter-Gortat

Our best lineup plain and simple.

As the poster who coined the phrase "Linuep of Mild Discomfort" (I think), I've been using it to refer to our version of the Dubs' Death Lineup -- no true center; Morris in the Draymond role. I agree that the Oubre/Porter/Gortat would've been a better lineup to finish tonight's game with than the LoMD, but given the Pistons' size and how close the game was, I'd have preferred to run with our starting lineup instead. Oubre wasn't exactly lighting it up from 3, and Morris is a better decisionmaker on offense. The LoMD should be reserved for smaller teams, or when we're behind and desperate to score.

I coulda swore LoMD was with Gortat, but maybe I'm wrong. The Kieff lineup is the one that totally blew that OKC game when we had that ISO meltdown.

I wasn't paying super close attention, but didn't Oubre drill a cluch 3 to cut it to 3? I thought he was fantastic tonight.

Either way we came all the way back and probably should've won at the end.