Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1
I thought he was more saying a C that mirrors Cody's strengths so we have a big that has PNR and defense as a strength off the bench and to play that role with the starters when Cody is out.
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I mean a starter or not at the C spot who can bring real intimidation and make opponent's offense respect Hornets's defense. So yes, a rim protector, dirty work prone, above average in terms of picks, with a reliable face up jumper (on pick n pop, but not from 3 range).
You don't necessary need a good rebounder as long as you have size and athleticism at the wings (the case with this core). But you badly need the rest.
As for Cody, maybe he can be developed as a pf/c, his footwork is decent enough for this, even though he would struggle against athletic tweeners/elite pf's. He is obviously able to develop a 3 pt range shoot, even though he has a slow release (imo). Not sure if it's necessary though, we could also have more pick n pop between Cody & Nic (or Kemba & even Belinelli) in the midrange. Much better to have your center use his most reliable shot instead of bombing from range and forgeting the post (ala M. Leonard, Okur and alike).
I have been away from watching this Codyless roster as it is fruitless to expect a good result.
You don't necessary need a good rebounder as long as you have size and athleticism at the wings (the case with this core). But you badly need the rest.
As for Cody, maybe he can be developed as a pf/c, his footwork is decent enough for this, even though he would struggle against athletic tweeners/elite pf's. He is obviously able to develop a 3 pt range shoot, even though he has a slow release (imo). Not sure if it's necessary though, we could also have more pick n pop between Cody & Nic (or Kemba & even Belinelli) in the midrange. Much better to have your center use his most reliable shot instead of bombing from range and forgeting the post (ala M. Leonard, Okur and alike).
I have been away from watching this Codyless roster as it is fruitless to expect a good result.
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would Lamb + 2nd picks to LA get us Lou Williams?
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That's just a link to the trade machine, not your specific trade.
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sorry- it was mkg,ramon, for ibaka and cj watson.
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Keith Smith @KeithSmithNBA 7m7 minutes ago
Sources say DEN has been very active in trade talks. Want to make playoffs this year. Have 2 more 1sts this year and already have young team
Nurkic has played double digit minutes in just 8 of DEN's 14 games in January, and he had 2 DNP-CDs. This tweet though suggests that if he's moved, it won't be for something like a pick + expiring.
Sources say DEN has been very active in trade talks. Want to make playoffs this year. Have 2 more 1sts this year and already have young team
Nurkic has played double digit minutes in just 8 of DEN's 14 games in January, and he had 2 DNP-CDs. This tweet though suggests that if he's moved, it won't be for something like a pick + expiring.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1
3 team trade
Charlotte gets: Blake Griffin
New York gets: MKG, Lamb, Mbah a Moute
Clippers get: Melo
Move Marvin to the 3, Hibbert gets less minutes, Zeller more minutes at the 5, and Batum more minutes at the 2.
Clippers get Melo and get away from Griffin who has been a non-factor this year. New York gets rid of Melo and gets MKG at a great price with 2 other young guys to build their team around. Charlotte gets a much needed post presence.
Charlotte gets: Blake Griffin
New York gets: MKG, Lamb, Mbah a Moute
Clippers get: Melo
Move Marvin to the 3, Hibbert gets less minutes, Zeller more minutes at the 5, and Batum more minutes at the 2.
Clippers get Melo and get away from Griffin who has been a non-factor this year. New York gets rid of Melo and gets MKG at a great price with 2 other young guys to build their team around. Charlotte gets a much needed post presence.
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^We'd probably also need to give up a 1st. But I would do MKG, 1st and filler for Blake any day of the week. I don't get why the Clippers would want Melo over Blake though.
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Blake would leave in free agency
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Snidely FC wrote:would Lamb + 2nd picks to LA get us Lou Williams?
Without 1st round pick you cant get Lou.
clyde21 wrote:sell high on Ingram, this is Zion's team now, there is no room for that black hole that is BI
clyde21 wrote:bench Ingram for NAW, already a better player
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fatlever wrote:^We'd probably also need to give up a 1st. But I would do MKG, 1st and filler for Blake any day of the week. I don't get why the Clippers would want Melo over Blake though.
I don't get why the Clippers, or anyone for that matter, would want Melo at 24mil/year, yet that is the team that has shown the most interest. I doubt they'd be able to afford everybody, so somebody has to go and Griffin seems like the logical choice.
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First Nurkic, now...
Sam Amick @sam_amick 10m10 minutes ago
At @USATODAYsports: Amid growing frustration about his role, Wilson Chandler wants out of Denver
RealGM @RealGM 2h2 hours ago
Nuggets Exploring Emmanuel Mudiay's Trade Value: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/244770/Nuggets-Exploring-Emmanuel-Mudiays-Trade-Value …
Things aren't going so great in DEN.
It would be fan-freaking-tastic to pry Nurkic and Mudiay out of DEN.
Sam Amick @sam_amick 10m10 minutes ago
At @USATODAYsports: Amid growing frustration about his role, Wilson Chandler wants out of Denver
RealGM @RealGM 2h2 hours ago
Nuggets Exploring Emmanuel Mudiay's Trade Value: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/244770/Nuggets-Exploring-Emmanuel-Mudiays-Trade-Value …
Things aren't going so great in DEN.
It would be fan-freaking-tastic to pry Nurkic and Mudiay out of DEN.
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Nuggets were always going to need to consolidate talent. Too many players deserving minutes vs too many player needed minutes to develop.
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Challenge - find us the best PG you can to trade for with Sessions + $6M wing (Lamb or Beli, think we know who would win that among the FO) + current or future 1st.
Ideal but extremely unlikely:
Rubio
Mudiay
Jrue Holiday
Ideal but extremely unlikely:
Rubio
Mudiay
Jrue Holiday
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Reggie Jackson
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Reggie seems like the type that would not be OK with backing up Kemba.
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Yeah, skill wise it would be great but chemistry red flags all over the place.
Also probably rules out Rondo.
Also probably rules out Rondo.
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yosemiteben wrote:Challenge - find us the best PG you can to trade for with Sessions + $6M wing (Lamb or Beli, think we know who would win that among the FO) + current or future 1st.
Ideal but extremely unlikely:
Rubio
Mudiay
Jrue Holiday
Sessions + Lamb for Brandon Knight (suns clear 6 mil in space). Add super-duper protected 2018 1st, if needed.
Sessions + Lamb + unprotected 2017 1st for Jeremy Lin. Get the band back together. Pray we make the playoffs and that pick doesn't a lottery pick. Do the Nets want to move Lin for a 1st? Is Lin ready to give up the dream of being a starting PG?
Holiday is UFA this summer, which greatly reduces what I'd offer for him. He'll get paid this summer.
Deron is UFA this summer. How much is he worth to us? Sessions + protected 2018?
Sessions for Galloway? Gives Pelicans a chance to get out of his deal. Doesn't seem to be used much now.
Sessions for Jameer?
Tyler Ennis? Terry Rozier? Tyler Ulis?
Or just go with Mumford and Roberts and cut Sessions
Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1
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Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1
yosemiteben wrote:Challenge - find us the best PG you can to trade for with Sessions + $6M wing (Lamb or Beli, think we know who would win that among the FO) + current or future 1st.
Ideal but extremely unlikely:
Rubio
Mudiay
Jrue Holiday
Patty Mills
I'd still also still take a shot with MCW
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