Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader

[peachbucket]

I thought Danny couldn't draft If his life was on the line?

He seems to be doing much better since he realized people play basketball outside the United States.

[bbd24]

I thought Danny couldn't draft If his life was on the line?

He seems to be doing much better since he realized people play basketball outside the United States.

I always have thought Ainge has been darn solid. Was never given top picks to play with but still drafted talented kids. When he got top picks, he traded for a Ray Allen & drafted a Jaylen Brown. I'll take it. All day.

[SMTBSI]

Book is still being written on Ainge's drafting. He had a chapter where he got a good amount out of not very much, then a chapter where he got not very much out of a decent amount. Now the third chapter is being written. This one will probably go a long way to cementing the narrative.

Anyway, I've never been convinced we don't give too much emphasis to the first D in the Draft & Develop scheme. Like, nobody else in the organization matters? Every kid is destined, from the moment he's drafted, to become exactly what he's going to become, no matter the circumstances he plays in?

[peachbucket]

Book is still being written on Ainge's drafting. He had a chapter where he got a good amount out of not very much, then a chapter where he got not very much out of a decent amount. Now the third chapter is being written. This one will probably go a long way to cementing the narrative.

Anyway, I've never been convinced we don't give too much emphasis to the first D in the Draft & Develop scheme. Like, nobody else in the organization matters? Every kid is destined, from the moment he's drafted, to become exactly what he's going to become, no matter the circumstances he plays in?

Disagree. We cut bait pretty quickly once we realize these guys are duds and once we do they are never heard from again.
I don't believe the narrative that development is stifled because guys don't get playing time before they are ready to contribute. I think if anything, Stevens and the front office get the most out of these guys and make these guys look better than they really are. We made Jeff Green look like a borderline all star and got a future first for him for Christ sake. Crowder was a fringe rotation player and now he's probably a top 75 player and IT went from a 3rd pg off the bench to an MVP candidate.

If you are going to criticize anything, I think it has to be Ainge's drafting.

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I thought Danny couldn't draft If his life was on the line?

He seems to be doing much better since he realized people play basketball outside the United States.

I always have thought Ainge has been darn solid. Was never given top picks to play with but still drafted talented kids. When he got top picks, he traded for a Ray Allen & drafted a Jaylen Brown. I'll take it. All day.

He did also trade for Bassy Telfair.

Yeah, that deal also got him out of one year of Raef's contract -- but Ainge traded for Raef in the first place.

[Valid]

Book is still being written on Ainge's drafting. He had a chapter where he got a good amount out of not very much, then a chapter where he got not very much out of a decent amount. Now the third chapter is being written. This one will probably go a long way to cementing the narrative.

Anyway, I've never been convinced we don't give too much emphasis to the first D in the Draft & Develop scheme. Like, nobody else in the organization matters? Every kid is destined, from the moment he's drafted, to become exactly what he's going to become, no matter the circumstances he plays in?

Disagree. We cut bait pretty quickly once we realize these guys are duds and once we do they are never heard from again.
I don't believe the narrative that development is stifled because guys don't get playing time before they are ready to contribute. I think if anything, Stevens and the front office get the most out of these guys and make these guys look better than they really are. We made Jeff Green look like a borderline all star and got a future first for him for Christ sake. Crowder was a fringe rotation player and now he's probably a top 75 player and IT went from a 3rd pg off the bench to an MVP candidate.

If you are going to criticize anything, I think it has to be Ainge's drafting.

Jeff Green never, ever looked like a borderline All-Star.

[brackdan70]

Zizic: 17 points on 7 for 10, 8 rebounds, and 2 blocks in 24 minutes in a loss to Milan.

Zizic isn't going anywhere. Watch him play. He's like Brown, except he's got all the tools at the 5 spot, instead of the 3/4. No way you part with him unless Cousins comes back. He's too fundamentally sound at 20 yrs of age to give up. Oh, and his 20 yr old frame ? His friggin' shoulder width goes from one side of the key to the other. This is a hog beast at the 5.

Easily a top 10 pick if he came out this year. That's how well he's progressing. At 20. I bet some teams take him over Giles at this point. He's got a ton of potential.

hog beast

can't wait

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[klemen4]

It looks Darussafa will not make plaoffs (currently 9th) but with a hard chedule left and not a good score wih possible teams if they end with same record. Shame, would love to se Zizic in Euroleague playoff series agains top team.

[OFWGKTA]

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Looks real good, but take a look at the guy straight up passed out in the front row at 1:30

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[London2Boston]

Our summer league team next season will probably be better than the Nets. Can't wait.

[Gant]

Celtics' stash Gordon Hayward had another great game last night, leading his temporary team to a comeback win. 33 points on 13 for 20, with 8 boards.

[darrendaye]

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3-3 from 3. More of that please. I've continued to say, this is the area that should be worked on offensively for him. Of course, defensively he should be focused on post defense and defending pick and roll. His opportunity in the league is as a small-ball 5, imo. For him to carve out a role on THIS team, he will be best served becoming a threat from behind the arc. He came into the league a good pick setter and a guy who can catch lobs and finish. But that isn't a major offensive focus of this team. Unfortunately, Amir is the designated 5th offensive option center and much more trustworthy on defense. If Mickey can be a threat out to 3, use that attention as a stretch threat to also work some baseline cuts and some pump and drive game, he could still be a very good rotational player. But we're probably still a ways away from there. But, the team did him no favors scaling back the perimeter shot experience last year in the d-league as his season wore on and not having him down there this year for more extended play.

[ConstableGeneva]

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[Elrod is Back]

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The quotes from scouts on Yabusele suggest that he is seen possibly as an instant offense off-the-bench type of forward, who may be a 3 as much as a 4. The comparison to Jae Crowder, as a bigger more athletic better shooting and handling version, is not what I would have expected from a 6-7 280 lb guy.

It is obvious the Shanghai fans are crazy about him, and that he plays with a lot of passion.

I think he is going to be a fan favorite here, too. At worst he serves as a Scal type human victory cigar. More likely, a rotation scorer off the bench. Impossible to predict much more than that right now, but the sky is the limit. 6-7 280 6 percent body fat dudes with his skills and athleticism make it to the Hall of Fame...in Canton. Sui generis for the NBA.

[Gomes3PC]

Yabu looks nimble, but playing him at SF sounds like a recipe for disaster. Kind of like trying Jerebko there - interesting in a vacuum, disastrous in practice.

[Elrod is Back]

Yabu looks nimble, but playing him at SF sounds like a recipe for disaster. Kind of like trying Jerebko there - interesting in a vacuum, disastrous in practice.

My sense is that the scouts meant his offensive game was more of a 3--he could be unguardable. His defense is to be determined, but not what will be his defining asset. Hence the off-the-bench swing forward concept.

I agree--he seems more like a contemporary NBA stretch 4. If he is ever a starter I would think it most likely what he will be.

[smart_celtics]

Yabu looks nimble, but playing him at SF sounds like a recipe for disaster. Kind of like trying Jerebko there - interesting in a vacuum, disastrous in practice.

My sense is that the scouts meant his offensive game was more of a 3--he could be unguardable. His defense is to be determined, but not what will be his defining asset. Hence the off-the-bench swing forward concept.

I agree--he seems more like a contemporary NBA stretch 4. If he is ever a starter I would think it most likely what he will be.

I think the hope is he is like Larry Johnson. Shorter PF with enough weight and strength to muscle taller PF. Yabusele looks like he has the physical characteristics but we aren't going to tell much about his defensive skill in the CBA.

[Curmudgeon]

He's basically the same size as Millsap. That's Yabu's ceiling.