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Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader

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Re: Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader 

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Re: Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader 

Post#582 » by GregB » Wed Feb 8, 2017 9:07 pm

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Curmudgeon wrote:He's basically the same size as Millsap. That's Yabu's ceiling.


If he could ever get close to Millsap. Oh my lord. I was thinking Diaw.


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I think the Milsap comparison is a bit of an overestimation of his athletic ability. Milsap was a record setting shot blocker and imo a more explosive athlete.

I definitely am excited to see that Yabu appears to be more athletic than originally expected though. He should be a solid role player. If he can hit the 3 at a solid clip. He should be able to be a great bench player for us.
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Post#583 » by Gomes3PC » Wed Feb 8, 2017 9:25 pm

Millsap was also a freak on the glass in college. Yabu is a solid rebounder but I don't think he has the natural feel as a rebounder that Millsap did as a younger player.
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Post#584 » by Homerclease » Wed Feb 8, 2017 9:30 pm

Gomes3PC wrote:Millsap was also a freak on the glass in college. Yabu is a solid rebounder but I don't think he has the natural feel as a rebounder that Millsap did as a younger player.

I'm telling you guys, go back and look at all the write ups on Derrick Williams. It's scary. I hope someone makes us an offer for this kid before the truth comes out
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Post#585 » by OFWGKTA » Wed Feb 8, 2017 9:33 pm

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Gomes3PC wrote:Millsap was also a freak on the glass in college. Yabu is a solid rebounder but I don't think he has the natural feel as a rebounder that Millsap did as a younger player.

I'm telling you guys, go back and look at all the write ups on Derrick Williams. It's scary. I hope someone makes us an offer for this kid before the truth comes out


Who cares if he busts? He wasn't the second pick of the draft.
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Post#586 » by hickfromfrenchlick » Wed Feb 8, 2017 9:40 pm

I Googled this and couldn't find an easy answer: what distance is the 3-point line in China? 22 feet?
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Re: Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader 

Post#587 » by Homerclease » Wed Feb 8, 2017 9:42 pm

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Gomes3PC wrote:Millsap was also a freak on the glass in college. Yabu is a solid rebounder but I don't think he has the natural feel as a rebounder that Millsap did as a younger player.

I'm telling you guys, go back and look at all the write ups on Derrick Williams. It's scary. I hope someone makes us an offer for this kid before the truth comes out


Who cares if he busts? He wasn't the second pick of the draft.

Oh it's not like it will sink or swim the entire franchise but if we can flip him for some value while his perceived value is high I'd be all for it, I just don't see this guy as a productive NBA player
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Homerclease wrote:I'm telling you guys, go back and look at all the write ups on Derrick Williams. It's scary. I hope someone makes us an offer for this kid before the truth comes out


Who cares if he busts? He wasn't the second pick of the draft.

Oh it's not like it will sink or swim the entire franchise but if we can flip him for some value while his perceived value is high I'd be all for it, I just don't see this guy as a productive NBA player


I know some of the people on this board are outstanding scouts and therefore experts on Yabusele, but I confess I am not. And I am not certain about you, either, Homer.

I have seen enough of Yabs to know I want the Cs to keep him and see what exactly they have got. If he can actually bring a lot back in a trade, I want to keep him that much more. That means other professional scouts see something in him that I see when I look at his clips.

The only reason to trade him is if the Cs to agree with Homer and think Yabs likely a bust, a brain-fart draft pick like Fab Melo. Then dump him for whatever you can get.

I have seen no indication that the Cs or anyone who actually scouted Yabs professionally shares Homer's assessment. But if the Cs do dump him for garbage, then indeed Homer's assessment will be the correct one. I hope you are wrong, Homer, but I can't write with your authority and certainty on the matter.
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Post#589 » by Homerclease » Wed Feb 8, 2017 9:58 pm

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Who cares if he busts? He wasn't the second pick of the draft.

Oh it's not like it will sink or swim the entire franchise but if we can flip him for some value while his perceived value is high I'd be all for it, I just don't see this guy as a productive NBA player


I know some of the people on this board are outstanding scouts and therefore experts on Yabusele, but I confess I am not. And I am not certain about you, either, Homer.

I have seen enough of Yabs to know I want the Cs to keep him and see what exactly they have got. If he can actually bring a lot back in a trade, I want to keep him that much more. That means other professional scouts see something in him that I see when I look at his clips.

The only reason to trade him is if the Cs to agree with Homer and think Yabs likely a bust, a brain-fart draft pick like Fab Melo. Then dump him for whatever you can get.

I have seen no indication that the Cs or anyone who actually scouted Yabs professionally shares Homer's assessment. But if the Cs do dump him for garbage, then indeed Homer's assessment will be the correct one. I hope you are wrong, Homer, but I can't write with your authority and certainty on the matter.

I hope I'm wrong too, I think it was a panic pick to be honest. Ainge wanted Hernangomez and Denver scooped him up right before we picked. Of course I want Yabs to succeed but I just don't see it I'm sorry.
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Post#590 » by radcot » Wed Feb 8, 2017 10:09 pm

hickfromfrenchlick wrote:I Googled this and couldn't find an easy answer: what distance is the 3-point line in China? 22 feet?


-- believe FIBA rules/dimensions are used in China, which would mean that, yes, 3 point line is 22 feet (22.1 to be exact).
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Post#591 » by Roddy » Wed Feb 8, 2017 10:13 pm

Clarence Weatherspoon could be a nice comparison for Yabusele. Short PF, solid build, can shoot, solid rebounder, athletic...
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Post#592 » by Gant » Wed Feb 8, 2017 10:22 pm

Roddy wrote:Clarence Weatherspoon could be a nice comparison for Yabusele. Short PF, solid build, can shoot, solid rebounder, athletic...



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Post#593 » by Elrod is Back » Wed Feb 8, 2017 10:34 pm

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Homerclease wrote:Oh it's not like it will sink or swim the entire franchise but if we can flip him for some value while his perceived value is high I'd be all for it, I just don't see this guy as a productive NBA player


I know some of the people on this board are outstanding scouts and therefore experts on Yabusele, but I confess I am not. And I am not certain about you, either, Homer.

I have seen enough of Yabs to know I want the Cs to keep him and see what exactly they have got. If he can actually bring a lot back in a trade, I want to keep him that much more. That means other professional scouts see something in him that I see when I look at his clips.

The only reason to trade him is if the Cs to agree with Homer and think Yabs likely a bust, a brain-fart draft pick like Fab Melo. Then dump him for whatever you can get.

I have seen no indication that the Cs or anyone who actually scouted Yabs professionally shares Homer's assessment. But if the Cs do dump him for garbage, then indeed Homer's assessment will be the correct one. I hope you are wrong, Homer, but I can't write with your authority and certainty on the matter.

I hope I'm wrong too, I think it was a panic pick to be honest. Ainge wanted Hernangomez and Denver scooped him up right before we picked. Of course I want Yabs to succeed but I just don't see it I'm sorry.


No need to apologize; this board invites speculation. I have trouble buying the notion that Ainge was caught with his pants down when Denver took Hernangomez. That is not at all how I understand draft rooms work, and Ainge strikes me like the Godfather at the end of G1, always overprepared if anything. The team does a ton of prep and is ready for just about anything. Do you have any legit actual evidence to back up this claim that Danny was winging it on draft night once he was allegedly shocked by the Denver pick? Or are you just following a premonition, like the one you have about Yabs?
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Post#594 » by Homerclease » Wed Feb 8, 2017 10:47 pm

Elrod is Back wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
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I know some of the people on this board are outstanding scouts and therefore experts on Yabusele, but I confess I am not. And I am not certain about you, either, Homer.

I have seen enough of Yabs to know I want the Cs to keep him and see what exactly they have got. If he can actually bring a lot back in a trade, I want to keep him that much more. That means other professional scouts see something in him that I see when I look at his clips.

The only reason to trade him is if the Cs to agree with Homer and think Yabs likely a bust, a brain-fart draft pick like Fab Melo. Then dump him for whatever you can get.

I have seen no indication that the Cs or anyone who actually scouted Yabs professionally shares Homer's assessment. But if the Cs do dump him for garbage, then indeed Homer's assessment will be the correct one. I hope you are wrong, Homer, but I can't write with your authority and certainty on the matter.

I hope I'm wrong too, I think it was a panic pick to be honest. Ainge wanted Hernangomez and Denver scooped him up right before we picked. Of course I want Yabs to succeed but I just don't see it I'm sorry.


No need to apologize; this board invites speculation. I have trouble buying the notion that Ainge was caught with his pants down when Denver took Hernangomez. That is not at all how I understand draft rooms work, and Ainge strikes me like the Godfather at the end of G1, always overprepared if anything. The team does a ton of prep and is ready for just about anything. Do you have any legit actual evidence to back up this claim that Danny was winging it on draft night once he was allegedly shocked by the Denver pick? Or are you just following a premonition, like the one you have about Yabs?

Nope just my gut feeling. It was widely known we were hot for Hernangomez, bbd had us pegged for Brown and he weeks before the draft. Ainge was working hard to try to get a deal done with Chicago and Philly for that third pick and people are just human. It wouldn't be the first time an executive was unprepared. Look at the fiasco in Minnesota during the NFL draft as an example. Of course I could be wrong but I believe Ainge had his guy at 16 and Hernangomez and didn't have a concrete backup plan
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Post#595 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Wed Feb 8, 2017 10:48 pm

Yabusele is Anthony Bennett minus the lofty expectations of being drafted 1st overall. Same build, same strengths. Meh. I won't get my hopes up.
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Post#596 » by mbsnmisc » Wed Feb 8, 2017 10:56 pm

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Yabusele is Anthony Bennett minus the lofty expectations of being drafted 1st overall. Same build, same strengths. Meh. I won't get my hopes up.

Minus the **** conditioning and the laissez-faire attitude. Yabs looks funny in a basketball uniform, but he is lean, strong and agile. Bennett is none of those things.
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Post#597 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Wed Feb 8, 2017 10:58 pm

mbsnmisc wrote:
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Yabusele is Anthony Bennett minus the lofty expectations of being drafted 1st overall. Same build, same strengths. Meh. I won't get my hopes up.

Minus the **** conditioning and the laissez-faire attitude. Yabs looks funny in a basketball uniform, but he is lean, strong and agile. Bennett is none of those things.


Anthony Bennett with a work ethic still wouldn't make the current roster. I don't see anything impressive about playing well in a league where Jimmer Freddette is averaging close to 40 ppg.
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Post#598 » by SichtingLives » Wed Feb 8, 2017 11:03 pm

Yabs is Draymond Green x Paul Milsap + Sully - Oliver Miller /70 + (Stops1 - xy3)(Stops2 -3.4)(off. rebounds) + steals/36

psssh yall act like there aren't advanced ways to project his ceiling, floor, basement and mid-level living space
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Post#599 » by Parliament10 » Wed Feb 8, 2017 11:28 pm

SichtingLives wrote:Yabs is Draymond Green x Paul Milsap + Sully - Oliver Miller /70 + (Stops1 - xy3)(Stops2 -3.4)(off. rebounds) + steals/36

psssh yall act like there aren't advanced ways to project his ceiling, floor, basement and mid-level living space

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