GT: Wizards - Nets Wednesday, Feb 08, 7:30 PM ET

[krii]

Did i watch another Mahinmi than you guys did? Wow. I saw a plodding guy who fouled 3 times in 12 minutes because he couldn't move around. He looked slow and old to me...I jut chalked it up to rust and being out of shape. According to stevemcqueen, he was a lightning quick Ben Wallace out there. Interesting.

Well you can't compare him to Jason Smith. That's probably why you thought he was slow. I meant that he's fast for an Earthling big, not a Saiyan.

Mahinmi does foul a lot. He always has. I don't think it's from a lack of speed, I think it's because he's a handsy defender who keeps his hands dropped below his waist most of the time and contests shots hard. Guys try and shoot on him instead of passing out. The best way to keep his fouls down is for the perimeter players to prevent easy dribble penetration where the perimeter player is getting into the lane at full speed.

But on the flip side, it gets him a lot of sneaky pick and roll finishes because defenders will get lulled to sleep thinking he's not an active target.

That is also why Gortat will still play major role in the team, no matter if Mahinmi gets back to his old self. Mahinmi is a great guy for certain match-ups and he'll play whenever we need any space eater. It will be just a couple games a year though - you can already see what he will bring to the table and what Gortat brings.

I love the idea of Gortat/Morris/Mahinmi/Jason rotation, if all of them are healthy. It gives you flexibility and different styles, combo that is rare around the league. Problem is I don't know if Ian is able to maintain himself for longer stretches and minutes. If he can, and he is not fouling out within those ca 25 mpg, we can compete with every team in the league.

[bsilver]

I thought Mahinmi looked good.
Assuming he works his way up to 18-20 minutes per game, whose minutes does he take? Gortat's averaging 34.7 minutes, so maybe 4-6 from Gortat. Smith and Morris are playing well so wouldn't want much reduction there.
I think the minutes may be at the expense of our small ball lineup, which means less minutes for Oubre. Or, since Burke is a big weakness, play more Sato at backup PG and Oubre at backup SG. Haven't worked it all out yet, but will contact Brooks with advice:)

[Illmatic12]

I thought Mahinmi looked okay. He's floor bound at the moment but mobile.

Wall really struggles with the mental aspects of the game when he's tired. The need for help in the back-court is getting more pronounced. I think Wall is wearing down a bit from playing too many minutes.

Beal & Porter have been awesome. Two of the best players offensively at their respective positions in the NBA at 23. They both still have room to grow. PIF looks dead on about the Porter vs. George discussion he had last off-season. I wouldn't trade Porter for Paul George at this stage.

Smith offensively held his own at PF and was very productive. He's really been a pleasant surprise the last 2 months. Defensively he leaves a lot to be desired but his activity & jumper have been such huge positives it outweighs his defensive limitations. I'm okay with him getting the bulk of the backup PF minutes, especially on nights where Oubre isn't playing well... like last night.

Whoa whoa.. I would definitely make that trade. PG is a much better defender than Otto (not to say Otto is bad, but George is All-NBA caliber on D), and he would be insane offensively playing with Wall.

At the minimum, I would trade Otto + Oubre + 2 1sts for George (assuming he commits to extension)

George can't be the lead ballhandler/playmaker on a team. He started out his career with the Pacers playing a very similar role to what Otto is doing now, but as he improved they overestimated his abilities to be the #1 guy. Put him with Wall and Beal where he isn't forced to create his own offense out of nothing, and he'd kill it.

We have no shot of ever beating a Lebron-led team with Otto or Oubre at SF (our wings are too skinny to guard Bron, by any means ). With George on this team we could beat the Cavs in a playoff series and possibly see multiple Finals appearances.

[tontoz]

I thought Mahinmi looked okay. He's floor bound at the moment but mobile.

Wall really struggles with the mental aspects of the game when he's tired. The need for help in the back-court is getting more pronounced. I think Wall is wearing down a bit from playing too many minutes.

Beal & Porter have been awesome. Two of the best players offensively at their respective positions in the NBA at 23. They both still have room to grow. PIF looks dead on about the Porter vs. George discussion he had last off-season. I wouldn't trade Porter for Paul George at this stage.

Smith offensively held his own at PF and was very productive. He's really been a pleasant surprise the last 2 months. Defensively he leaves a lot to be desired but his activity & jumper have been such huge positives it outweighs his defensive limitations. I'm okay with him getting the bulk of the backup PF minutes, especially on nights where Oubre isn't playing well... like last night.

Whoa whoa.. I would definitely make that trade. PG is a much better defender than Otto (not to say Otto is bad, but George is All-NBA caliber on D), and he would be insane offensively playing with Wall.

At the minimum, I would trade Otto + Oubre + 2 1sts for George (assuming he commits to extension)

George can't be the lead ballhandler/playmaker on a team. He started out his career with the Pacers playing a very similar role to what Otto is doing now, but as he improved they overestimated his abilities to be the #1 guy. Put him with Wall and Beal where he isn't forced to create his own offense out of nothing, and he'd kill it.

We have no shot of ever beating a Lebron-led team with Otto or Oubre at SF (our wings are too skinny to guard Bron, by any means ). With George on this team we could beat the Cavs in a playoff series and possibly see multiple Finals appearances.

Lebron is 33, carrying around 260 pounds and has a lot of mileage on his legs. I doubt he ages well. We don't need to make plans with him in mind.

[nate33]

I thought Mahinmi looked good.
Assuming he works his way up to 18-20 minutes per game, whose minutes does he take? Gortat's averaging 34.7 minutes, so maybe 4-6 from Gortat. Smith and Morris are playing well so wouldn't want much reduction there.
I think the minutes may be at the expense of our small ball lineup, which means less minutes for Oubre. Or, since Burke is a big weakness, play more Sato at backup PG and Oubre at backup SG. Haven't worked it all out yet, but will contact Brooks with advice:)

Mahinmi will take about 4-6 minutes from Gortat, and most of Jason Smith's minutes. Jason Smith will probably be relegated to spot duty at PF if there's foul trouble or a burly matchup that Porter can't handle. Smith could also get some situational minutes at center in a 5-out configuration, but I doubt it.

[Illmatic12]

I thought Mahinmi looked okay. He's floor bound at the moment but mobile.

Wall really struggles with the mental aspects of the game when he's tired. The need for help in the back-court is getting more pronounced. I think Wall is wearing down a bit from playing too many minutes.

Beal & Porter have been awesome. Two of the best players offensively at their respective positions in the NBA at 23. They both still have room to grow. PIF looks dead on about the Porter vs. George discussion he had last off-season. I wouldn't trade Porter for Paul George at this stage.

Smith offensively held his own at PF and was very productive. He's really been a pleasant surprise the last 2 months. Defensively he leaves a lot to be desired but his activity & jumper have been such huge positives it outweighs his defensive limitations. I'm okay with him getting the bulk of the backup PF minutes, especially on nights where Oubre isn't playing well... like last night.

Whoa whoa.. I would definitely make that trade. PG is a much better defender than Otto (not to say Otto is bad, but George is All-NBA caliber on D), and he would be insane offensively playing with Wall.

At the minimum, I would trade Otto + Oubre + 2 1sts for George (assuming he commits to extension)

George can't be the lead ballhandler/playmaker on a team. He started out his career with the Pacers playing a very similar role to what Otto is doing now, but as he improved they overestimated his abilities to be the #1 guy. Put him with Wall and Beal where he isn't forced to create his own offense out of nothing, and he'd kill it.

We have no shot of ever beating a Lebron-led team with Otto or Oubre at SF (our wings are too skinny to guard Bron, by any means ). With George on this team we could beat the Cavs in a playoff series and possibly see multiple Finals appearances.

Lebron is 33, carrying around 260 pounds and has a lot of mileage on his legs. I doubt he ages well. We don't need to make plans with him in mind.

Lebron is 32, and the guy is basically a cyborg. I would be surprised if he doesn't have at least 3-4 elite years left. And in terms of the postseason, he can coast through the regular season and go all out in the playoffs and keep going like that for another 6,7 years.

And keep in mind that Wall is entering his prime right now, Otto and Brad are young but it's not like John is 21yo or something. We will definitely have to deal with Lebron and the Cavs for the foreseeable future.

[CobraCommander]

Is there a realgm app?

Yes but its tough to navigate on the iPhone

[CobraCommander]

Keynote on TV!!!!!

Heh. I watched the replay on the NBC Sports Roku app; I didn't realize that Phil and Buck were giving me shoutouts, too. My wife is now disappointed that she didn't get to wear her Wizards gear as well.

I need to get some Wizards RealGM stuff to go with my cobra gear so when I go to away games I can be like you

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

keynote, I'm guessing you were either a tight end or a tackle in HS of college football.

I played the 5 in high school basketball, actually; I never played football (my school didn't have a program).

I can see it. You're a true big man.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Mahinmi looked old, slow, and out of shape. He could barely keep up with the action on the floor.

Dude played ONE game all year, that back in November.

I'm just glad he was active.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Mahinmi looked old, slow, and out of shape. He could barely keep up with the action on the floor.

Not sure about old but he was definitely rusty and out of game shape. He's played 14 minutes all year and just started practicing a week ago. I didn't think he played that bad though. Five rebounds in 12 minutes and could have had 7. I'm not really looking at his offense.

I'm REALLY encouraged by the rebounds and the defense.

I believe folks (Wizards fans) will be cheering this dude sooner than later.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I actually liked the defense Ian was playing. So long as Jason can continue to knock down a couple threes every now and then maybe he can space the floor with Ian.

Lotta Iso stuff today.. clearly tired. I think Brooks should have rested John to start the 4th. That or started Beal along with Tomas instead. Oubre played one of his worst games offensively. Hopefully it doesn't carry over again.

Glad to get a road win, even if it is against the Nets.

He looked a step or two slow, which is understandable and he still defended pretty well. Totally agree that Brooks whiffed on starting a TIRED John in the fourth. But a Beal/Sato backcourt? Not sure about the ballhandling there. I don't think Brooks has faith in that concept either which is why he should be screaming for Jarrett Jack or anybody backup PG with experience that could be available or had for cheap.

Jack's last couple seasons in the league were not good but they might still be better then Burke. I think M. Chalmers could be a decent option with his ability to hit the 3.

Jack is from Fort Washington, MD, IIRC.

He could be like Drew Gooden. Playing at the Y or something one day, right back in the league the next.

I like the idea of at least giving guys like Jack and Chalmers and audition. Seems to me Ochefu isn't going to get any minutes now. I'd like for him to have his contract guaranteed so he can get paid; but, if any spot on the roster goes it should probably be his. Him or House (if he's still on the roster).

McClellan is IMO a heck of a good player. Keep him.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The lack of reading comprehension NatP4 suffers from is quite impressive.

I would list off your impressive traits but I can't think of any? Sucking Wall off every chance you get maybe? Or is it Brooks? Maybe it's telling people they can't read when they don't share your hive mind?

Tough call

Congrats on establishing yourself as unbearable prick in such a short amount of time. Your comprehension does suck and your a broken record every game thread. Bash Wall, bash Brooks. Rotations suck blah blah blah, play Oubre 48 mins, Sato is fine and anyone the opposes your view is sucking someone off. We get it dude.

I welcome dissenting views, myself.

I'm an a-hole, according to some people. I like NatP4 being abrasive or obnoxious or predictably biased. In fact, I am trying my best to be objective with his posts.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I thought Mahinmi looked okay. He's floor bound at the moment but mobile.

Wall really struggles with the mental aspects of the game when he's tired. The need for help in the back-court is getting more pronounced. I think Wall is wearing down a bit from playing too many minutes.

Beal & Porter have been awesome[/b]. Two of the best players offensively at their respective positions in the NBA at 23. They both still have room to grow. PIF looks dead on about the Porter vs. George discussion he had last off-season. I wouldn't trade Porter for Paul George at this stage.

Smith offensively held his own at PF and was very productive. He's really been a pleasant surprise the last 2 months. Defensively he leaves a lot to be desired but his activity & jumper have been such huge positives it outweighs his defensive limitations. I'm okay with him getting the bulk of the backup PF minutes, especially on nights where Oubre isn't playing well... like last night.

I agree with all of this.

I don't think we NECESSARILY have to have back up PG help. They've won 15 of their last 18 games. Burke broke a dude's ankle against Brooklyn. He's a shooter/scorer who plays within himself. I think the guy is a winner.