Future draft classes

[EricAnderson]

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Honestly this class has 0 depth, this is a 2 man class. Langford is a solid prospect and Reddish is solid as well. After those 4 its pretty weak. But man those 2 guys at the top are freaks! Bagley is basically the perfect 4 in today's game. 6'10 with a 7"+ wingspan, athletic and has great upside as a scorer. Zion still needs to work on his shot and is undersized for the 4. But man the potential for him is ridiculous, 6'7 built like a tank already but extremely quick and fast and the dude gets his head at the height of the rim with ease. The thing that doesnt get shown in his highlights is his ridiculous IQ, that dude just never makes mistakes, always makes the smart pass and only takes high quality shots. Those 2 would battle for the #1 pick in most drafts, Langford and Reddish are okay top 5 picks, either than that, look for this to be the year teams try to trade their 1st rounder in.

Yeah the 18' class is pretty weak overall. Though you can say the same about the 17' class no?

Especially if you think a Ayton is overrated then the class is really awful aside from Porter and maybe Bamba who's limited offensively

Might have to wait for the 19' class which is pretty similliar to this years freshman class

[No-Man]

Jaylen Hoard is in the 18' class too, he is good, I like Simi Shittu also.

[Duke4life831]

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Honestly this class has 0 depth, this is a 2 man class. Langford is a solid prospect and Reddish is solid as well. After those 4 its pretty weak. But man those 2 guys at the top are freaks! Bagley is basically the perfect 4 in today's game. 6'10 with a 7"+ wingspan, athletic and has great upside as a scorer. Zion still needs to work on his shot and is undersized for the 4. But man the potential for him is ridiculous, 6'7 built like a tank already but extremely quick and fast and the dude gets his head at the height of the rim with ease. The thing that doesnt get shown in his highlights is his ridiculous IQ, that dude just never makes mistakes, always makes the smart pass and only takes high quality shots. Those 2 would battle for the #1 pick in most drafts, Langford and Reddish are okay top 5 picks, either than that, look for this to be the year teams try to trade their 1st rounder in.

Yeah the 18' class is pretty weak overall. Though you can say the same about the 17' class no?

Especially if you think a Ayton is overrated then the class is really awful aside from Porter and maybe Bamba who's limited offensively

Might have to wait for the 19' class which is pretty similliar to this years freshman class

I personally think Bamba is one of the safest prospects in high school right now. Even if he never improves offensively the chances of him being an elite rim protector and defender is pretty high with his length, athleticism and defensive timing. Along with Ayton, Bamba and Porter you also have Duval and Carter who are good prospects as well. Both are not deep classes, just think 17 has a couple more high level prospects at the top.

[Patsfan1081]

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Honestly this class has 0 depth, this is a 2 man class. Langford is a solid prospect and Reddish is solid as well. After those 4 its pretty weak. But man those 2 guys at the top are freaks! Bagley is basically the perfect 4 in today's game. 6'10 with a 7"+ wingspan, athletic and has great upside as a scorer. Zion still needs to work on his shot and is undersized for the 4. But man the potential for him is ridiculous, 6'7 built like a tank already but extremely quick and fast and the dude gets his head at the height of the rim with ease. The thing that doesnt get shown in his highlights is his ridiculous IQ, that dude just never makes mistakes, always makes the smart pass and only takes high quality shots. Those 2 would battle for the #1 pick in most drafts, Langford and Reddish are okay top 5 picks, either than that, look for this to be the year teams try to trade their 1st rounder in.

Looks like a fairly strong lottery (at least) to me. Another 'Greek Freak', Bagley, Langford, Zion, Moses....It's an even bigger draft class than 2018.

Makes me sad that the Nets picks end in 18. I have to say it's amazing just how good some of the top high school programs have become(outside of Chino who I hate).

[Marcus]

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Honestly this class has 0 depth, this is a 2 man class. Langford is a solid prospect and Reddish is solid as well. After those 4 its pretty weak. But man those 2 guys at the top are freaks! Bagley is basically the perfect 4 in today's game. 6'10 with a 7"+ wingspan, athletic and has great upside as a scorer. Zion still needs to work on his shot and is undersized for the 4. But man the potential for him is ridiculous, 6'7 built like a tank already but extremely quick and fast and the dude gets his head at the height of the rim with ease. The thing that doesnt get shown in his highlights is his ridiculous IQ, that dude just never makes mistakes, always makes the smart pass and only takes high quality shots. Those 2 would battle for the #1 pick in most drafts, Langford and Reddish are okay top 5 picks, either than that, look for this to be the year teams try to trade their 1st rounder in.

Looks like a fairly strong lottery (at least) to me. Another 'Greek Freak', Bagley, Langford, Zion, Moses....It's an even bigger draft class than 2018.

Makes me sad that the Nets picks end in 18. I have to say it's amazing just how good some of the top high school programs have become(outside of Chino who I hate).

Why do you hate Chino?

[Marcus]

How do we feel about Trae Young going to Oklahoma?

[jrob23]

How do we feel about Trae Young going to Oklahoma?

I wasn't very surprised because it's local for him. When people say 2018 is weak class most haven't even heard of this kid. The lack of knowledge on these boards from some posters that post the most is astounding. Young is a lottery pick. Man, Kansas really needed him to take over for Mason. Young and Preston would have been a sick inside out combo and they've have shooters with them as well. OSU is going to make some noise after this rebuilding year.

[oddwolfhooligan]

I really like a lot of guys in the 2017 recruiting class, but Trae Young doesn't do much for me. He's a 6'1 scoring guard with unspectacular athleticism, average decision making, and he doesn't do anything else at a high level. He reminds me a lot of Austin Rivers, albeit a couple inches shorter and a slightly better shooter at the same stage.

[Duke4life831]

How do we feel about Trae Young going to Oklahoma?

Great pickup for Oklahoma. He looks like he should be a great college player. I think Kansas missing out on the Derryck Thornton transfer may come back and haunt them. Duval isnt going there and it looks like theyre going to lose both PGs this summer. Theyre back court is going to be very thin with basically just Malik Newman.

[Duke4life831]

How do we feel about Trae Young going to Oklahoma?

I wasn't very surprised because it's local for him. When people say 2018 is weak class most haven't even heard of this kid. The lack of knowledge on these boards from some posters that post the most is astounding. Young is a lottery pick. Man, Kansas really needed him to take over for Mason. Young and Preston would have been a sick inside out combo and they've have shooters with them as well. OSU is going to make some noise after this rebuilding year.

Man you seem to love attack people's knowledge a lot on here when they disagree with you, maybe they just you know have a difference of opinion. I have known about Trae Young for a very long time and yes I still say this is a weak class. If Trae Young went lotto in the 18 draft I think it would back up the point that 18 is a weak class. Young is 6'1, very skinny, average athlete on the college level and will be a below average athlete in the NBA. Hes a good shooter but has bad shot selection and has really struggled with his shot against good athletes and size. Have a hard time seeing him as a better prospect as say Tyus Jones and Tyus went mid 20s. I highly doubt Young comes out after one year. Youd have to take him that early hoping he can be Steph Curry 2.0 and his shot is nowhere near Curry.

[No-Man]

How do we feel about Trae Young going to Oklahoma?

Great pickup for Oklahoma. He looks like he should be a great college player. I think Kansas missing out on the Derryck Thornton transfer may come back and haunt them. Duval isnt going there and it looks like theyre going to lose both PGs this summer. Theyre back court is going to be very thin with basically just Malik Newman.

Graham isnt gonna declare ultimately, you will see.

[jrob23]

How do we feel about Trae Young going to Oklahoma?

I wasn't very surprised because it's local for him. When people say 2018 is weak class most haven't even heard of this kid. The lack of knowledge on these boards from some posters that post the most is astounding. Young is a lottery pick. Man, Kansas really needed him to take over for Mason. Young and Preston would have been a sick inside out combo and they've have shooters with them as well. OSU is going to make some noise after this rebuilding year.

Man you seem to love attack people's knowledge a lot on here when they disagree with you, maybe they just you know have a difference of opinion. I have known about Trae Young for a very long time and yes I still say this is a weak class. If Trae Young went lotto in the 18 draft I think it would back up the point that 18 is a weak class. Young is 6'1, very skinny, average athlete on the college level and will be a below average athlete in the NBA. Hes a good shooter but has bad shot selection and has really struggled with his shot against good athletes and size. Have a hard time seeing him as a better prospect as say Tyus Jones and Tyus went mid 20s. I highly doubt Young comes out after one year. Youd have to take him that early hoping he can be Steph Curry 2.0 and his shot is nowhere near Curry.

well....yeah. I mean, you think the 2016 and 2018 draft classes are weak. You think Tatum lacks explosion despite evidence to the contrary provided. You think the 5 star recruit Trae Young who has measured 6'2" in shoes and is growing and filling out is not a great prospect. These all point to a lack of knowledge. You literally quote scout and draftxpress opinions/anecdotal evidence and pass it off as your own. In time you'll be proven wrong I just need you to point it out now so it won't be the case of saying it after the fact.

Did you just try to denigrate Young by saying he isn't the shooter Steph is...arguably the best shooter in NBA history? c'mon man smh

Young, like most high school kids is a chucker no doubt. In a college system playing with better players, spacing and coaching he'll mostly be taking better/open shots. He is lightning quick, has a good handle, willing defender with quick hands and a good passer. After next season imo he'll be considered a 1st rounder if he chooses to come out and a reason why it's not a weak draft class. The fact that you don't even factor him in that class is why you are wrong about the class' strength. Time will tell of course.

[Marcus]

I wasn't very surprised because it's local for him. When people say 2018 is weak class most haven't even heard of this kid. The lack of knowledge on these boards from some posters that post the most is astounding. Young is a lottery pick. Man, Kansas really needed him to take over for Mason. Young and Preston would have been a sick inside out combo and they've have shooters with them as well. OSU is going to make some noise after this rebuilding year.

Man you seem to love attack people's knowledge a lot on here when they disagree with you, maybe they just you know have a difference of opinion. I have known about Trae Young for a very long time and yes I still say this is a weak class. If Trae Young went lotto in the 18 draft I think it would back up the point that 18 is a weak class. Young is 6'1, very skinny, average athlete on the college level and will be a below average athlete in the NBA. Hes a good shooter but has bad shot selection and has really struggled with his shot against good athletes and size. Have a hard time seeing him as a better prospect as say Tyus Jones and Tyus went mid 20s. I highly doubt Young comes out after one year. Youd have to take him that early hoping he can be Steph Curry 2.0 and his shot is nowhere near Curry.

well....yeah. I mean, you think the 2016 and 2018 draft classes are weak. You think Tatum lacks explosion despite evidence to the contrary provided. You think the 5 star recruit Trae Young who has measured 6'2" in shoes and is growing and filling out is not a great prospect. These all point to a lack of knowledge. You literally quote scout and draftxpress opinions/anecdotal evidence and pass it off as your own. In time you'll be proven wrong I just need you to point it out now so it won't be the case of saying it after the fact.

Did you just try to denigrate Young by saying he isn't the shooter Steph is...arguably the best shooter in NBA history? c'mon man smh

Young, like most high school kids is a chucker no doubt. In a college system playing with better players, spacing and coaching he'll mostly be taking better/open shots. He is lightning quick, has a good handle, willing defender with quick hands and a good passer. After next season imo he'll be considered a 1st rounder if he chooses to come out and a reason why it's not a weak draft class. The fact that you don't even factor him in that class is why you are wrong about the class' strength. Time will tell of course.

So take it and present it as a difference of opinion and not an attack just because somebody doesn't agree with your assessment. As you said time will tell so just let that happen.

[Duke4life831]

I wasn't very surprised because it's local for him. When people say 2018 is weak class most haven't even heard of this kid. The lack of knowledge on these boards from some posters that post the most is astounding. Young is a lottery pick. Man, Kansas really needed him to take over for Mason. Young and Preston would have been a sick inside out combo and they've have shooters with them as well. OSU is going to make some noise after this rebuilding year.

Man you seem to love attack people's knowledge a lot on here when they disagree with you, maybe they just you know have a difference of opinion. I have known about Trae Young for a very long time and yes I still say this is a weak class. If Trae Young went lotto in the 18 draft I think it would back up the point that 18 is a weak class. Young is 6'1, very skinny, average athlete on the college level and will be a below average athlete in the NBA. Hes a good shooter but has bad shot selection and has really struggled with his shot against good athletes and size. Have a hard time seeing him as a better prospect as say Tyus Jones and Tyus went mid 20s. I highly doubt Young comes out after one year. Youd have to take him that early hoping he can be Steph Curry 2.0 and his shot is nowhere near Curry.

well....yeah. I mean, you think the 2016 and 2018 draft classes are weak. You think Tatum lacks explosion despite evidence to the contrary provided. You think the 5 star recruit Trae Young who has measured 6'2" in shoes and is growing and filling out is not a great prospect. These all point to a lack of knowledge. You literally quote scout and draftxpress opinions/anecdotal evidence and pass it off as your own. In time you'll be proven wrong I just need you to point it out now so it won't be the case of saying it after the fact.

Did you just try to denigrate Young by saying he isn't the shooter Steph is...arguably the best shooter in NBA history? c'mon man smh

Young, like most high school kids is a chucker no doubt. In a college system playing with better players, spacing and coaching he'll mostly be taking better/open shots. He is lightning quick, has a good handle, willing defender with quick hands and a good passer. After next season imo he'll be considered a 1st rounder if he chooses to come out and a reason why it's not a weak draft class. The fact that you don't even factor him in that class is why you are wrong about the class' strength. Time will tell of course.

I point to things like Scout and Draftexpress as things to back up my arguments. You know that's usually a good way to present an argument, you give your view point and give some things that backup your view point, instead of just saying if you don't agree with my view point you don't know what you're talking about.

Me saying the 2016, 2018 draft classes are weak (18 not nearly as weak as 16) and Tatum having question marks about his explosion aren't wild out there opinions. Many guys have been saying that about Tatum for a long time, I've actually admitted my Duke bias probably kept myself from seeing it for awhile. 2016 draft class has been looked at as a horrible class for a few years now and so far it has lived up to it 1 year in.

When it comes to Trae Young how is he a better prospect than Tyus Jones? Jones better shooter, much better playmaker, similar athleticism and similar built with Tyus being thicker. Tyus couldn't of really had a better 1 year in college mid still went mid 20s in his draft and has struggled to get legit playing time because his lack of size and athleticism.

I just find it weird how the draft board seems to always have so many differences of opinions but seems to have the most civil discussions on this site. But with you, if someone disagrees with you, you seem the need to call them out even if you have no evidence to back up what you say and it's just your opinion. This is the draft thread, 99% of this stuff is going to be opinion based stuff and projections, it's okay if people have differences of opinions. Doesn't mean anyone lacks knowledge.

[Duke4life831]

Duval has really shown an improvement with his playmaking ability since his move to IMG. It definitely helps him that he's playing on one of the best High School teams in America, but I think it has really helped his game out by rounding it out. His jumper is still coming along and still a big question mark though. He's tightened up his jumper and is much more consistent with it as well. Have a hard time ever seeing him from being a great shooter though. That's still the only thing that is keeping me from him being a part of the big 3 of Ayton, Bamba and Porter.

[Duke4life831]

Latest highlights of Duval. Great mix of size 6'3 with a 6'8 wingspan, athleticism and handles. That jumper still has a ways too go but definitely an exciting prospect.

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[jrob23]

Man you seem to love attack people's knowledge a lot on here when they disagree with you, maybe they just you know have a difference of opinion. I have known about Trae Young for a very long time and yes I still say this is a weak class. If Trae Young went lotto in the 18 draft I think it would back up the point that 18 is a weak class. Young is 6'1, very skinny, average athlete on the college level and will be a below average athlete in the NBA. Hes a good shooter but has bad shot selection and has really struggled with his shot against good athletes and size. Have a hard time seeing him as a better prospect as say Tyus Jones and Tyus went mid 20s. I highly doubt Young comes out after one year. Youd have to take him that early hoping he can be Steph Curry 2.0 and his shot is nowhere near Curry.

well....yeah. I mean, you think the 2016 and 2018 draft classes are weak. You think Tatum lacks explosion despite evidence to the contrary provided. You think the 5 star recruit Trae Young who has measured 6'2" in shoes and is growing and filling out is not a great prospect. These all point to a lack of knowledge. You literally quote scout and draftxpress opinions/anecdotal evidence and pass it off as your own. In time you'll be proven wrong I just need you to point it out now so it won't be the case of saying it after the fact.

Did you just try to denigrate Young by saying he isn't the shooter Steph is...arguably the best shooter in NBA history? c'mon man smh

Young, like most high school kids is a chucker no doubt. In a college system playing with better players, spacing and coaching he'll mostly be taking better/open shots. He is lightning quick, has a good handle, willing defender with quick hands and a good passer. After next season imo he'll be considered a 1st rounder if he chooses to come out and a reason why it's not a weak draft class. The fact that you don't even factor him in that class is why you are wrong about the class' strength. Time will tell of course.

I point to things like Scout and Draftexpress as things to back up my arguments. You know that's usually a good way to present an argument, you give your view point and give some things that backup your view point, instead of just saying if you don't agree with my view point you don't know what you're talking about.

Me saying the 2016, 2018 draft classes are weak (18 not nearly as weak as 16) and Tatum having question marks about his explosion aren't wild out there opinions. Many guys have been saying that about Tatum for a long time, I've actually admitted my Duke bias probably kept myself from seeing it for awhile. 2016 draft class has been looked at as a horrible class for a few years now and so far it has lived up to it 1 year in.

When it comes to Trae Young how is he a better prospect than Tyus Jones? Jones better shooter, much better playmaker, similar athleticism and similar built with Tyus being thicker. Tyus couldn't of really had a better 1 year in college mid still went mid 20s in his draft and has struggled to get legit playing time because his lack of size and athleticism.

I just find it weird how the draft board seems to always have so many differences of opinions but seems to have the most civil discussions on this site. But with you, if someone disagrees with you, you seem the need to call them out even if you have no evidence to back up what you say and it's just your opinion. This is the draft thread, 99% of this stuff is going to be opinion based stuff and projections, it's okay if people have differences of opinions. Doesn't mean anyone lacks knowledge.

that's pretty funny because I'm the one who references measurements and provides videos proving my points and you just state your opinions using absolutes. Case in point, Tatum. I've provided several videos of him jumping off one and two feet, dunking over dudes, to prove he's a great athlete and you provide.....crickets...except you believe he struggles on layups because....reasons.

Trae Young scored 62 points recently.

http://www.scout.com/college/oklahoma/story/1754312-highlights-trae-young-s-62-point-performance

He has a completely different mindset than Tyus. I think you let TJ's good tournament cloud your Duke fanboy mind into believing he's a good shooter lol. He averaged 8 shots a game and didn't exactly shoot the lights out when he did. I expect Trae Young to have a similar season to Fultz and DSJ. He's an attacking PG and if he's only averaging 8 shots a game and averaging 12 ppg like TJ I'll eat as much crow as you can dish out.

My issue with you and others is you have these very strong opinions, are presented with evidence that shows you are wrong, but don't ever just admit it and move on. I even predicted you'd still spout that Tatum nonsense after I posted the videos. It'd take him posterizing Embid or entering the Dunk contest for you to admit you're wrong. If I come hard at you over Tatum, or dudes who claim Ntilikina can't play SG, it's because you are wrong and you need to be corrected. I myself admit when I'm wrong when new information is presented (like with Ntilikina).

The problem with our current debates is I can't yet prove 2016 was a strong draft class for another couple of years. But then even when some of these raw players who will take awhile to make an impact...do make an impact...you'll never admit you were wrong. Same with 2018. It's a loaded class rivaling 2017 and as we get closer to it and more information than what can be regurgitated from draft sites comes to light...people will begin to realize this. I made the same prediction about 2017 class before the 2016 and it took until the fall before everyone agreed. Eventually, even the draft sites will come around on the 2018 class. But I have a strong feeling you'll suddenly stop quoting them in regards to that lol because it counters your opinion (and theirs currently) We'll see.

You are much too sensitive so I'll just laugh from afar and leave you be to debate posters that don't question when you post nonsense. Have fun. You and Frischella deserve each other.

[SirChurros]

Duval isnt a PG imo.. he's a smaller Tyreke Evans. I dont think he has the mental capacities to run a team, or improve his game enough to even be a full nba starter.. time will tell.. but he doesnt scream standout or impact to me

Do you still feel this way? Because this is an awful take.

[Duke4life831]

Well unless there is some Euro stud I think there is going to be no doubt who the top 2 picks are going to be in 2019. Zion and Bagley both have some crazy upside to their game.

You got Bagley who is 6'11 with a 7 foot wingspan. This dude is basically the ideal stretch 4 in today's game. Super skilled and athletic perimeter player that can really play the 3 or the 4.

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Then you got Zion who is 6'7 with a 6'10 wingspan and is built like a middle linebacker. Doesnt quite have the perimeter skills like Bagley but my god that athleticism is the definition of freakish. Add in his tremendous basketball IQ, you got one special prospect.

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Lets be honest guys like Romeo Langford and Cameron Reddish are fighting it out for 3rd in the draft behind these two guys.

[Marcus]

Was watching the powerjam on ESPN this morning and they showed Jonathan Bender. I'm depressed now.

Hope this year's McD's game is as competitive as last year's. I feel like with kids like Sexton, Hands, Young, and Trent in it we might get some competitive one on one play.