The Boogie Watch

[bwgood77]

I think they indicated they would give him that mega max. They might as well, because he will always likely be trade-able, even moreso after he is under contract.

It makes sense that the Kings are not actively shopping him but will listen to offers and if they got a gargantuan one, they may take it.

I think they want to compete though after being in the lottery for so long so I still think Denver makes the most since because of their depth. They play Boogie at the 4 and he can hit the 4....a Boogie/Jokic frontcourt? Boogie liked playing for Malone too right?

Denver could offer Mudiay, Barton, Chandler, Gallinari, their first, and a future first for Casspi and Boogie

Sac

Collison/Barton/Chandler/Gallinari/WCS

Mudiay/McLemore, Temple, Richardson at wing spot/Skal/Papa

That's a pretty damn deep lineup. There are other pieces too like Bogdanovic, Lawson, etc

Den

Murray/Harris/Casspi/Cousins/Jokic

Nelson/Beasley/Miller/Hernangomez/Plumlee

What? How does this offer beat the Suns? Gallinari has a player option this summer, so he's gone. Chandler has a player option next summer so he's likely gone. Barton is a free agent after next season too so he's gone (or signs for 12-16mil a year). So they traded Boogie for Mudiay and two late 1st rounders just to see if they can sneak into the playoffs? If I were the Kings I'd rather have Knight than Mudiay because he shoots better than Mudiay and can dish out 4-5 assist per game like Mudiay too.

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Mudiay still has more upside. Well, if you think none of those guys stay in Sac, then they could offer Harris or Murray and throw in Hernagomez and just keep Barton or Chandler.

Actually it might make more since

Denver offers Mudiay, Harris, Hernangomez, Gallinari, Faried, their first (likely 15th or so) and a future 1st.

Sac

Collison/Harris/Gallinari/Faried/WCS

Mudiay/McLemore, Temple, Richardson at wing spot/Skal and Hernangomez/Papa

Den

Murray/Barton/Chandler/Cousins/Jokic

Nelson/Beasley/Miller/Arthur/Plumlee

The point is, Sac needs a 1, 2 and 3. They already have plenty of 4s and 5s. Len does nothing. Knight is not a future starter and is not going to hold much value.

You are assuming they just want draft picks mostly.

The thing is, I don't think they want or plan on trading them. Someone is going to have to blow them away with an offer. Boston probably has the best chance because of their depth and picks. They could give them Brooklyn's picks this year and next plus Bradley, Brown, Young, Rozier.

Rozier/Bradley/Brown and two possible #1 picks or probably at least top 3 or 4 picks is better than adding Knight, Warren and Len, and our picks which might not be great. This year's would be. The Miami picks might not be that great anyway. Who knows?

[bhawk]

Boogie wants to stay in Sacramento and will be very angry if he gets traded. He will not promise to sign an extension with any team that he might be traded to.

ONLY reason why Boogie wants to stay in Sac is due to the ENORMOUS contract extension he would get with them. If Sac trades him, he'll lose about 40-50 mil.. Boogie can ONLY get over 200mil extension with the Kings..

That's why he wants to stay

+1

It's not like Boogie is on a perennial contender with an A+ front office and a great roster. He only wants to stay to get that extension inked. And I don't blame him for one second. If he does get moved before he signs and it's to a team that he'd want to play for, I see no reason why he wouldn't sign an extension with that team just to spite the Kings for trading him.

I don't agree. Boogie's agents are telling the Suns, Pelicans, Boston... don't you DARE make that trade or we won't sign an extension.

[lilfishi22]

I'd be surprised if any team that Boogie hasn't previously said he'd like to play for, paid full price for him. A team like LA or NY, maybe Chicago might have enough off-court attractions to keep him around but for most teams, they'll need a John Wall or an Eric Bledsoe or perhaps some other superstar for Cousins to want to stay there. If we didn't have Bledsoe and Booker, I wouldn't want to be part of the Cousins sweepstakes.

[bwgood77]

Boogie wants to stay in Sacramento and will be very angry if he gets traded. He will not promise to sign an extension with any team that he might be traded to.

ONLY reason why Boogie wants to stay in Sac is due to the ENORMOUS contract extension he would get with them. If Sac trades him, he'll lose about 40-50 mil.. Boogie can ONLY get over 200mil extension with the Kings..

That's why he wants to stay

+1

It's not like Boogie is on a perennial contender with an A+ front office and a great roster. He only wants to stay to get that extension inked. And I don't blame him for one second. If he does get moved before he signs and it's to a team that he'd want to play for, I see no reason why he wouldn't sign an extension with that team just to spite the Kings for trading him.

It's the same thing as Melo. We may see a S&T, but Boogie will not want to be traded before the summer, and honestly, the Kings shouldn't trade him before then either unless they think he is going to leave, and it's fairly obvious he's not, because he wants the deal first. Once he is under contract, he will have plenty of suitors and better offers. We could have more to work with because we have cap space, but Boston and Denver have way more depth to trade and Boston has great picks.

[Qwigglez]

Spoiler:

I think they indicated they would give him that mega max. They might as well, because he will always likely be trade-able, even moreso after he is under contract.

It makes sense that the Kings are not actively shopping him but will listen to offers and if they got a gargantuan one, they may take it.

I think they want to compete though after being in the lottery for so long so I still think Denver makes the most since because of their depth. They play Boogie at the 4 and he can hit the 4....a Boogie/Jokic frontcourt? Boogie liked playing for Malone too right?

Denver could offer Mudiay, Barton, Chandler, Gallinari, their first, and a future first for Casspi and Boogie

Sac

Collison/Barton/Chandler/Gallinari/WCS

Mudiay/McLemore, Temple, Richardson at wing spot/Skal/Papa

That's a pretty damn deep lineup. There are other pieces too like Bogdanovic, Lawson, etc

Den

Murray/Harris/Casspi/Cousins/Jokic

Nelson/Beasley/Miller/Hernangomez/Plumlee

What? How does this offer beat the Suns? Gallinari has a player option this summer, so he's gone. Chandler has a player option next summer so he's likely gone. Barton is a free agent after next season too so he's gone (or signs for 12-16mil a year). So they traded Boogie for Mudiay and two late 1st rounders just to see if they can sneak into the playoffs? If I were the Kings I'd rather have Knight than Mudiay because he shoots better than Mudiay and can dish out 4-5 assist per game like Mudiay too.

Mudiay still has more upside. Well, if you think none of those guys stay in Sac, then they could offer Harris or Murray and throw in Hernagomez and just keep Barton or Chandler.

Actually it might make more since

Denver offers Mudiay, Harris, Hernangomez, Gallinari, Faried, their first (likely 15th or so) and a future 1st.

Sac

Collison/Harris/Gallinari/Faried/WCS

Mudiay/McLemore, Temple, Richardson at wing spot/Skal and Hernangomez/Papa

Den

Murray/Barton/Chandler/Cousins/Jokic

Nelson/Beasley/Miller/Arthur/Plumlee

The point is, Sac needs a 1, 2 and 3. They already have plenty of 4s and 5s. Len does nothing. Knight is not a future starter and is not going to hold much value.

You are assuming they just want draft picks mostly.

The thing is, I don't think they want or plan on trading them. Someone is going to have to blow them away with an offer. Boston probably has the best chance because of their depth and picks. They could give them Brooklyn's picks this year and next plus Bradley, Brown, Young, Rozier.

Rozier/Bradley/Brown and two possible #1 picks or probably at least top 3 or 4 picks is better than adding Knight, Warren and Len, and our picks which might not be great. This year's would be. The Miami picks might not be that great anyway. Who knows?

They would definitely need to add Murray and or Harris to the deal. I don't think any team holds Mudiay in high regard, has any player shot the same FG% as he has and significantly improved?
I think if we see Boston trade for Butler or George, the Suns instantly become the No 1 spot for Boogie for likely trade partners.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Suits all parties if they sign the supermax in 5 months before being traded.

- No threat of being a rental
- Increases package for trade
- Player gets an extra $50m

[bwgood77]

Spoiler:

What? How does this offer beat the Suns? Gallinari has a player option this summer, so he's gone. Chandler has a player option next summer so he's likely gone. Barton is a free agent after next season too so he's gone (or signs for 12-16mil a year). So they traded Boogie for Mudiay and two late 1st rounders just to see if they can sneak into the playoffs? If I were the Kings I'd rather have Knight than Mudiay because he shoots better than Mudiay and can dish out 4-5 assist per game like Mudiay too.

Mudiay still has more upside. Well, if you think none of those guys stay in Sac, then they could offer Harris or Murray and throw in Hernagomez and just keep Barton or Chandler.

Actually it might make more since

Denver offers Mudiay, Harris, Hernangomez, Gallinari, Faried, their first (likely 15th or so) and a future 1st.

Sac

Collison/Harris/Gallinari/Faried/WCS

Mudiay/McLemore, Temple, Richardson at wing spot/Skal and Hernangomez/Papa

Den

Murray/Barton/Chandler/Cousins/Jokic

Nelson/Beasley/Miller/Arthur/Plumlee

The point is, Sac needs a 1, 2 and 3. They already have plenty of 4s and 5s. Len does nothing. Knight is not a future starter and is not going to hold much value.

You are assuming they just want draft picks mostly.

The thing is, I don't think they want or plan on trading them. Someone is going to have to blow them away with an offer. Boston probably has the best chance because of their depth and picks. They could give them Brooklyn's picks this year and next plus Bradley, Brown, Young, Rozier.

Rozier/Bradley/Brown and two possible #1 picks or probably at least top 3 or 4 picks is better than adding Knight, Warren and Len, and our picks which might not be great. This year's would be. The Miami picks might not be that great anyway. Who knows?

They would definitely need to add Murray and or Harris to the deal. I don't think any team holds Mudiay in high regard, has any player shot the same FG% as he has and significantly improved?
I think if we see Boston trade for Butler or George, the Suns instantly become the No 1 spot for Boogie for likely trade partners.

Maybe, but it still wouldn't happen until the summer, which makes more sense for all parties (our pick is better, he gets his deal, Sac can see if he will stay and likely get more offers once he is under contract).

[lilfishi22]

ONLY reason why Boogie wants to stay in Sac is due to the ENORMOUS contract extension he would get with them. If Sac trades him, he'll lose about 40-50 mil.. Boogie can ONLY get over 200mil extension with the Kings..

That's why he wants to stay

+1

It's not like Boogie is on a perennial contender with an A+ front office and a great roster. He only wants to stay to get that extension inked. And I don't blame him for one second. If he does get moved before he signs and it's to a team that he'd want to play for, I see no reason why he wouldn't sign an extension with that team just to spite the Kings for trading him.

I don't agree. Boogie's agents are telling the Suns, Pelicans, Boston... don't you DARE make that trade or we won't sign an extension.

That wouldn't make any sense. So let's say he gets moved to a team like....the Suns who has Bledsoe he can play with, why wouldn't he sign? He'll make the same no matter where he goes once he gets traded from Sacramento so why wouldn't he sign with a team he has said in the past that he's interested in playing for because of the personnel?

It makes zero sense for him to not sign with the 2nd best option just to spite the Kings. I see his agent's tweets as more of a bluff if he gets traded to a team he DOESN'T want to play for. If he gets traded to Charlotte or Boston where he has no connections there, I could see him not signing an extension there.

[bhawk]

+1

It's not like Boogie is on a perennial contender with an A+ front office and a great roster. He only wants to stay to get that extension inked. And I don't blame him for one second. If he does get moved before he signs and it's to a team that he'd want to play for, I see no reason why he wouldn't sign an extension with that team just to spite the Kings for trading him.

I don't agree. Boogie's agents are telling the Suns, Pelicans, Boston... don't you DARE make that trade or we won't sign an extension.

That wouldn't make any sense. So let's say he gets moved to a team like....the Suns who has Bledsoe he can play with, why wouldn't he sign? He'll make the same no matter where he goes once he gets traded from Sacramento so why wouldn't he sign with a team he has said in the past that he's interested in playing for because of the personnel?

It makes zero sense for him to not sign with the 2nd best option just to spite the Kings. I see his agent's tweets as more of a bluff if he gets traded to a team he DOESN'T want to play for. If he gets traded to Charlotte or Boston where he has no connections there, I could see him not signing an extension there.

There are 50M reasons why he won't re-sign. It is easy. No deal gets done until he signs his supermax.

[King4Day]

Don't agree with a separate thread for Boogie. It's a trade thread for a reason, no?

[Qwigglez]

Don't agree with a separate thread for Boogie. It's a trade thread for a reason, no?

The reason being, some others may not be talking about Boogie and we don't want to miss any valuable information that is being posted here. There is enough talk about Boogie to garner it's own thread too.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Kings are also the closest to playoffs they've been in 12 years.

[kennydorglas]

Playing 2 minutes in the all-star game...
and then......... WOJ SEASON

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[lilfishi22]

I don't agree. Boogie's agents are telling the Suns, Pelicans, Boston... don't you DARE make that trade or we won't sign an extension.

That wouldn't make any sense. So let's say he gets moved to a team like....the Suns who has Bledsoe he can play with, why wouldn't he sign? He'll make the same no matter where he goes once he gets traded from Sacramento so why wouldn't he sign with a team he has said in the past that he's interested in playing for because of the personnel?

It makes zero sense for him to not sign with the 2nd best option just to spite the Kings. I see his agent's tweets as more of a bluff if he gets traded to a team he DOESN'T want to play for. If he gets traded to Charlotte or Boston where he has no connections there, I could see him not signing an extension there.

There are 50M reasons why he won't re-sign. It is easy. No deal gets done until he signs his supermax.

$50m isn't there if he gets traded. So why wouldn't he resign with the Suns? Out of spite?

[WeekapaugGroove]

Suits all parties if they sign the supermax in 5 months before being traded.

- No threat of being a rental
- Increases package for trade
- Player gets an extra $50m

Once he signs that super max he cant be traded for 12 months.

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[Mulhollanddrive]

Forget everything I said, Woj is making it sound like it's on.

I would say Boston is heavy favourites because their draft pick is guaranteed top 4 and not Cousins affected.

[kennydorglas]

If Boogie is really leaving 50M in the table, you can bet he's going to a contender or playing with Bled/Wall
just nuts

[starbosa10]

[Mulhollanddrive]

Chris Mannix says Sacramento after young players, picks, expirings.

The only team it makes sense to trade with is Boston as Cousins doesn't affect their elite picks.

[kennydorglas]

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