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Post#821 » by Mulhollanddrive » Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:58 am

Sacramento get to within 1 game of playoffs after 11 years and decide to tank.
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Post#822 » by bwgood77 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:58 am

Well that's surprising.
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Re: The Boogie Watch 

Post#823 » by jredsaz » Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:59 am

That Bucher report seems like a shot across McDs bow. I mean why in the world wouldn't he take Knight out of that deal of that's all it took. We could have ate the salary difference.

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Re: The Boogie Watch 

Post#824 » by Mulhollanddrive » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:03 am

If we were a treadmill team not landing this deal (like 2012 with Harden) probably gets McDonough fired, but he's positioned us as a top 5 pick drafting team now.
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Post#825 » by bwgood77 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:03 am

Well I'm glad we didn't trade for him. Just surprised at how little it took to get him. That frontcourt is sick.
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Re: The Boogie Watch 

Post#826 » by DirtyDez » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:05 am

bwgood77 wrote:Well I'm glad we didn't trade for him. Just surprised at how little it took to get him. That frontcourt is sick.


If they make the playoffs it can only be the 8-seed. That first rd matchup tho...
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Post#827 » by Kerrsed » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:06 am

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Ok, after watching the UFC fights, i came back to this F***fest. This is what i believe:

Ray-Ray was/is 100% right. He was right with our offer and right that they didnt want to trade with us even though our deal was better. As i stated before, i know we were trying to deal with them for Cousins, and the Pelicans "Rumor" at the time was put out there for us to sweeten the deal. After going back and forth with the Suns FO, they told McD that they have a better deal on the table and for the Suns to make their best and final offer, and McD stood pat. McD knows that we would have had a great chance at re-signing Cousins due to his relationship with Bledsoe, but that still was no guarantee. He also had to factor in how pissed Cousins would be, not only with the Kings, but the team trading for him, knowing they helped in him essentially losing $40M. Thats why McD didnt sweeten the offer by replacing Knight in the deal with another player. Vlad was pissed and pretty much said "Screw you" to the Suns by accepting a much inferior offer. Maybe they still hold some hostility to McD for him swiping Chriss out from them in that horrible horrible deal.

I mean we all know our pick will be more valuable, thats a given. Warren >>>> Hield. Len >>>>>> Galloway. The only downside was Knight and his contract, so i could see in the Kings eyes Evans >>>>>>>>>> Knight.

As for the tweet about how they look at Hield as a top 5 pick player, and a #10 pick (Pelicans), LMAO. Do they seriously think that pairing up two of the most dominant all-star bigs in their prime will net them a top 10 pick???? Hell they have the #9 pick right now, and that was just with Davis! Losing Hield/Evans/Galloway and adding Cousins/Casspi isnt going to lose them more games, they will be winning games, and i fail to see how the Pelicans dont end up in the playoffs, and how the Kings dont end up with a #16-20 pick after all of this.

So in short, even though i am high (Super high) on Cousins and would have loved him on the Suns, we might have done the right thing. And another good thing to come out of all of this is that FINALLY Pelifan might have some more boardsman to talk with in his game threads!


If that's the case McD should be fired.


I dont think so. He might have just saved our ass. You know Cousins is pissed right. I think his agent was trying to scare off teams. Cousins has to hold some hostility to the Pelicans, as for as far as he knows, if it wasnt for their offer, he might still be in Sacramento and could still be getting that extra $40M. Pelicans have no guarantee that he will re-sign. They made a make it or break it move, and i think he will end up leaving in the long run, and if we still have Bledsoe on board, we might become the favorites at snagging him in FA, without having to give up ANY of our assets. Bled and Boogie are good friends and talk to each other on the regular, so i wouldnt be surprised if he isnt already in Cousins ear planting that bug. If we could end up doing all that, while keeping all our young assets and picks, that would put us in a prime position to not just sign Cousins to a sweet new deal, but to maybe go after the next disgruntled star player while also having a few talented youngsters to fill out the line-up.
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Post#828 » by DRK » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:07 am

lilfishi22 wrote:I'm still pissed we didn't get Cousins but it's hard to fault McD because the offer we made was fair.


Nah its not McD's fault. Anyone who can spell "basketball" knows that our deal for Cousins was a much better offer than the Pelicans, and we know for a fact that we were interested in Cousins.

This wasnt a basketball move by Vivek and Vlade. This was a personal, conceited move that was about giving the Suns the middle finger after killing them in the IT/Oriaki and Chriss/#13 trade.


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Re: The Boogie Watch 

Post#829 » by bwgood77 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:08 am

If the Kings don't even want Knight as a throw in in the deal you know he has little value.
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Re: The Boogie Watch 

Post#830 » by Mulhollanddrive » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:09 am

N.O will target Bledsoe the second we draft a PG with a top 5 pick.
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Re: The Boogie Watch 

Post#831 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:13 am

bwgood77 wrote:If the Kings don't even want Knight as a throw in in the deal you know he has little value.

Eh what the Kings want and don't want holds zero meaning imo. They just traded Cousins and they didn't even get a top pick in return. That front office know nothing about basketball.
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Post#832 » by Kerrsed » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:13 am

bwgood77 wrote:If the Kings don't even want Knight as a throw in in the deal you know he has little value.


He might hold some value to some teams, but lets be real, The Kings already have Lawson and Collison at the PG spot, the last thing they need is a $14M a year 3rd stringer. They just didnt want to be saddled with paying an extra $14M a season for the next 3 years to a player that they really dont want or have a need for.
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Post#833 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:14 am

Lebron, LMA and now Cousins. Always the bridesmade, never the bride lol
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Re: The Boogie Watch 

Post#834 » by ATTL » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:14 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:N.O will target Bledsoe the second we draft a PG with a top 5 pick.


What do they have to offer?
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Post#835 » by DRK » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:15 am

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bwgood77 wrote:If the Kings don't even want Knight as a throw in in the deal you know he has little value.


He might hold some value to some teams, but lets be real, The Kings already have Lawson and Collison at the PG spot, the last thing they need is a $14M a year 3rd stringer. They just didnt want to be saddled with paying an extra $14M a season for the next 3 years to a player that they really dont want or have a need for.


Collision is an UFA at the end of this season and Lawson is on a very small contract. Knight would hardly have broken the bank
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Re: The Boogie Watch 

Post#836 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:15 am

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bwgood77 wrote:If the Kings don't even want Knight as a throw in in the deal you know he has little value.


He might hold some value to some teams, but lets be real, The Kings already have Lawson and Collison at the PG spot, the last thing they need is a $14M a year 3rd stringer. They just didnt want to be saddled with paying an extra $14M a season for the next 3 years to a player that they really dont want or have a need for.

I'd take Knight if it came with a top 3 pick in a strong draft, TJ Warren and Len lol
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Post#837 » by bwgood77 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:17 am

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bwgood77 wrote:If the Kings don't even want Knight as a throw in in the deal you know he has little value.


He might hold some value to some teams, but lets be real, The Kings already have Lawson and Collison at the PG spot, the last thing they need is a $14M a year 3rd stringer. They just didnt want to be saddled with paying an extra $14M a season for the next 3 years to a player that they really dont want or have a need for.


Collision is an UFA at the end of this season and Lawson is on a very small contract. Knight would hardly have broken the bank


I don't know why anyone would want Knight for what he is paid.
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Re: The Boogie Watch 

Post#838 » by Kerrsed » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:18 am

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Mulhollanddrive wrote:N.O will target Bledsoe the second we draft a PG with a top 5 pick.


What do they have to offer?


Absolutely nothing now.

I was playing with the trade machine, and bleh, they dont have anything. It would have to be a 3 team trade. The only decent players left besides Davis and Cousins are Holiday and Jones, both of which are on expiring contracts. They just traded off their 2017 1st, and dont own any other teams 1sts in any of the upcoming years.
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Re: The Boogie Watch 

Post#839 » by Kerrsed » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:19 am

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bwgood77 wrote:If the Kings don't even want Knight as a throw in in the deal you know he has little value.


He might hold some value to some teams, but lets be real, The Kings already have Lawson and Collison at the PG spot, the last thing they need is a $14M a year 3rd stringer. They just didnt want to be saddled with paying an extra $14M a season for the next 3 years to a player that they really dont want or have a need for.


Collision is an UFA at the end of this season and Lawson is on a very small contract. Knight would hardly have broken the bank


And both have been playing better than Knight.
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Re: The Boogie Watch 

Post#840 » by Christine-In-AZ » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:22 am

McD smartly refused to include the King's request of Bender or Chriss.

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