The (Quintessential) Trade Thread, 2017 (Part 5.0)

[LarryBirdsFingr]

I didn't go to work and I am here waiting for a trade to go down

you better be doing something else productive like getting drunk or playing video games because this stuff only takes up like 10 minutes of reading per hour

[OFWGKTA]

So there's been 10 pages of speculation about a Drummond trade because... he posted the eyeballs emoji after IT did?

Otherwise I have read/seen/heard nothing to suggest Detroit would do this, or is even considering trading Drummond. The Pistons poster couldn't give a reason why they would do it either other than they'd like our Brooklyn pick. Well no **** they would -- so would everyone else -- that doesn't mean every team is going to trade their franchise player to us.

If the Pistons trade Drummond they would still have a roster loaded with $10+ million long-term contracts for guys like Tobias Harris, Reggie Jackson, Jon Leuer and then $5+ million guys Ish Smith, Boban and Marcus Morris. Those are the guys they need to find takers for, not Drummond. It doesn't make sense, and there's no rumors to suggest it does.

I mean feel free to talk about whatever you want, but just keep in mind that there really is no smoke here... just a trolling tweet.

Don't do this to yourself.

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT - This thread is a designated free for all for the rest of the week. This is just talking back and forth about basketball trades if you are somehow unable to handle the emotional roller coaster of nonsense that is going to be spewed in this thread go to other safer more antiseptic parts of the internet of even this forum. If there is something real it will have its own thread soon enough this is all crazy talk at this point. You do not have to read this.

[darrendaye]

the eyes omfg

Bobby Portis WOULD be the perfect Celtic after all.

[OFWGKTA]

I didn't go to work and I am here waiting for a trade to go down

you better be doing something else productive like getting drunk or playing video games because this stuff only takes up like 10 minutes of reading per hour

And 50 minutes of refreshing though

[HarthorneWingo]

That Blake rumor is a major overpay.

Here's a twist- could Knicks become so desperate to dump Melo and his money that we get their pick this year or next?

It's happened before. Cavs got a pick from Clippers for taking Baron Davis, it rolled first overall and became Kyrie Irving. Look at what the Kings just did. You can't know if you don't ask. And if we're giving up max cap space for a 32 year old, the least the Knicks can do is give us a good pick.

Yeah, I know, but if we give up any more picks, our board will explode. That's part of the reason why we're at where we're at ... sucking.

[Captain_Caveman]

So there's been 10 pages of speculation about a Drummond trade because... he posted the eyeballs emoji after IT did?

Otherwise I have read/seen/heard nothing to suggest Detroit would do this, or is even considering trading Drummond. The Pistons poster couldn't give a reason why they would do it either other than they'd like our Brooklyn pick. Well no **** they would -- so would everyone else -- that doesn't mean every team is going to trade their franchise player to us.

If the Pistons trade Drummond they would still have a roster loaded with $10+ million long-term contracts for guys like Tobias Harris, Reggie Jackson, Jon Leuer and then $5+ million guys Ish Smith, Boban and Marcus Morris. Those are the guys they need to find takers for, not Drummond. It doesn't make sense, and there's no rumors to suggest it does.

I mean feel free to talk about whatever you want, but just keep in mind that there really is no smoke here... just a trolling tweet.

Don't do this to yourself.

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT - This thread is a designated free for all for the rest of the week. This is just talking back and forth about basketball trades if you are somehow unable to handle the emotional roller coaster of nonsense that is going to be spewed in this thread go to other safer more antiseptic parts of the internet of even this forum. If there is something real it will have its own thread soon enough this is all crazy talk at this point. You do not have to read this.

LMAOOOOOOOO

[pasfru]

Drummond won't get moved for just Smart. Have to think a pick is involved.

Man, I really didn't want to do it, but if you insist.

Smart + Zeller for Drummond. Final offer.

[Edug27]

Drummond won't get moved for just Smart. Have to think a pick is involved.

Man, I really didn't want to do it, but if you insist.

Smart + Zeller for Drummond. Final offer.

Classic overpay. Zeller was a 18 and 9 per36 player last year.

[pinoyceltic]

No, not Smart. Jae/AB yes. But not Smart. Smart leads the team in energy rating, if there's one. Lol

[CelticFaninLBC]

Yeah, and that someone should be Bradley; not Smart.

Ideally yes. Can't see why Detroit would want AB. Have to get a 3rd team involved.

If the Celtics make a trade for another team's star player the Celtics player who is most likely to go is Jae Crowder. The team trading their star is going to want to get a player back that is on a good contract and is going to be around for a while. No team is going to trade their star for a guy that can walk away for nothing in a year (Bradley). This is some pretty basic stuff.

The team would be rebuilding and they would want a guy they can build with.

If Ainge deals for Butler, then Crowder is probably gone.

[sully00]

My head. I am one of the biggest Marcus Smart honks in the world and I generally kill Drummond for his lack of offensive range but I am carrying his bags to the airport for this type of deal. Drummond is 23 years old and the premier rebounder and defender in the game. I will miss Marcus but wow.

Not a lot of players I would be willing to just give up Smart and BRK' 17 or '18 for but he is on the short list.

Boston has a surplus of guys who can play guard (IT, AB, Smart, Rozier & Brown), and very few good bigs... Someone has to get dealt eventually to balance the roster...

Yeah, and that someone should be Bradley; not Smart.

That is why it has to be Smart. I love both players and we would feel the loss of either one. But Bradley is a known commodity at this point he has probably even surpassed his ceiling in many ways. As an opposing coach or GM I would be concerned that he is an extension of his coach somewhat and that he will not be the same player for me that he is for Stevens. He also is 6'3" and can't play PG or even dribble all that well. He is a PG sized 3 and D guy and basically is an acquired taste and is currently hurt

Smart is a force of nature who can play multiple positions including PG and if anything looks like an ill fit for Boston's offense and rotation. I can easily view Marcus as a player that if he was given the opportunity usually given to PG's drafted in the top half of the lottery that his offensive efficiency would have caught up with his dominant defense. But because of Rondo, then Thomas as well as injuries Marcus has not had that opportunity yet.

If I was looking to trade with Boston and was deciding between the two I think I would be seeing the same things that we are seeing as fans. Cashing in Marcus at this deadline based on how he has played the last 20 some odd games may be hard to do but it also may be the right thing to do his value may be at his highest where it may be tough to get full value for Bradley.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Drummond won't get moved for just Smart. Have to think a pick is involved.

Yeah, probably Zizic & a non-BKN pick.

[hickfromfrenchlick]

I'm scared of Drummond. While his counting stats look the exact same as last season, the team based stats and directly ignoring coaching the year after he got paid look red flag-ish to me. That's in relation to the 2018 BKN, but open for business in other scenarios.

He also lost 20 pounds over the summer to play a different role in Van Gundy's defense. I don't think his work ethic is the issue. & a guy like SVG who barks a lot can wear on players, they start to tune him out. It's bad motivational technique.

I'm pretty confident that CBS could get the max out of most guys. I hear some talk about Butler's attitude, or Drummond not getting along with SVG, and it doesn't really bother me.

That said, I don't think the love child of Red and the Zen Master could get Cousins to play nice.

[rmal8852]

Oh I think I would be inclined to deal the BRK 18 if nothing else comes of it for him. My only fear with him is that he cannot shoot free throws so all that really needs to happen is Hack-A-Shaq and send him to the line. Plus he can't shoot 3's.

I agree as the FTs are what hold him back from being a 20ppg player and it hurts at the end of games. I don't get the shooting 3s though. I think having 4 3 point shooters around a in the paint big is more then enough. I would rather have my center down low dominating then camping around the 3 point line.

The Celtics love 3 point shooters at all positions. They value it more than protecting the rim and rebounding so ultimately the team would 100% pass on Drummond.

I really don't like agreeing with this, but you're 100% right, especially Stevens. Wish you weren't.

[ConstableGeneva]

Watch on YouTube

Danny would've thrown the plate with the marshmallow at the woman's face. I'm the girl at the end of the vid. Gimme Jimmy!!

[hickfromfrenchlick]

I'm gonna **** lose it if we trade Smart

I'd be surprised if we trade him because of the huge gap between how we/BOS management views him and how everyone views him. His stats are not good. But we know how valuable he is.

I'm thinking more and more that Avery has to go, as good a player and a guy as he is. It's really just that I don't want to have to pay him what he's worth. I'd also deal Crowder, despite his good play and contract.

[pinoyceltic]

I didn't go to work and I am here waiting for a trade to go down

you better be doing something else productive like getting drunk or playing video games because this stuff only takes up like 10 minutes of reading per hour

If my memory serves me right, I was like murdering the refresh button the whole day at work last off-season. That was one hell of a thread.

PS: Speaking of last off season, where is Smitty? By this time he should be feeding us something.

[ConstableGeneva]

Read on Twitter

Is this true? Cousins is an unusual case and the Kings management is a "special" FO.

[sully00]

So there's been 10 pages of speculation about a Drummond trade because... he posted the eyeballs emoji after IT did?

Otherwise I have read/seen/heard nothing to suggest Detroit would do this, or is even considering trading Drummond. The Pistons poster couldn't give a reason why they would do it either other than they'd like our Brooklyn pick. Well no **** they would -- so would everyone else -- that doesn't mean every team is going to trade their franchise player to us.

If the Pistons trade Drummond they would still have a roster loaded with $10+ million long-term contracts for guys like Tobias Harris, Reggie Jackson, Jon Leuer and then $5+ million guys Ish Smith, Boban and Marcus Morris. Those are the guys they need to find takers for, not Drummond. It doesn't make sense, and there's no rumors to suggest it does.

I mean feel free to talk about whatever you want, but just keep in mind that there really is no smoke here... just a trolling tweet.

Don't do this to yourself.

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT - This thread is a designated free for all for the rest of the week. This is just talking back and forth about basketball trades if you are somehow unable to handle the emotional roller coaster of nonsense that is going to be spewed in this thread go to other safer more antiseptic parts of the internet of even this forum. If there is something real it will have its own thread soon enough this is all crazy talk at this point. You do not have to read this.

Ok -- I'd just like to clarify your comment. Is the message that we shouldn't discuss whether or not the rumors are credible or make sense? If so that's fine, just want to be sure I understand.

Make sense? Sure that is what we are talking about. Credible? No please don't bring that up in this thread. I don't know why we feel the need to create some false dichotomy about the oxymoron of credible rumors. Believe the sources you believe, do not believe the ones you don't or believe none of it and just have fun talking about the possibilities.

[hickfromfrenchlick]

So there's going to be a board meltdown if Smart is dealt for Drummond?

People are too attached to Smart. I admit Smart is playing well but beside Olynyc the Celtics bigs are awful. Drummond isn't a perfect fit but he would easily be the best Celtic rebounders since Dave Cowens.

We are attached to him because he is really freaking good, not to mention that there is actually evidence that Drummond makes his team's defense worse.

I'm a UConn fan, so I love Drummond and I would love to have him, but I'm not about to trade Smart for him.

Bradley? Sure. Smart? No.

You wouldn't do a 1-for-1 (or Smart plus some side stuff)? Not that Detroit would ever do that in a million years.

I love Mahcus, but man, that's the kind of gamble you've got to make if you want to win a title.