Stephen Curry wasn't injured/hurt/70% in 2016 Finals

[jg77]

Cavs Fans and supporters are the worst posters on this board. Cocky, and Sore losers and winners. It's almost been a year yet, you're still bringing up the same thing. I didn't see Warrior fans trashing The cavs after they won the chip. SMH just lock up this topic and see what happens in the playoffs.

I don't think it's necessarily the Cavalier fans but the LeBron fans. We saw the same thing when LeBron started to takeover Kobe in popularity. A similar thing is happening with Stephen Curry starting to become the face of NBA. This guy just had an amazing last season and won the finals year before. He's accomplished and the attention he gets is well-deserved. We're watching the NBA change right in front of our eyes because Curry's lighting it up from 3 almost every night.

[hongdayuan]

I think Cleveland had a very good defensive scheme: hack curry off-ball as much as you can and dare the refs to blow their whistles, knowing playoff basketball allows more physical D. it takes a toll on his body and he has to do a lot more work before he even touches the ball, thus either reduce his offensive efficiency and take him out of offensive possessions completely. then you go to the other end of the floor and you get curry more involved on defence and set hard screens on him. Too many hard screens and holds on him goes uncalled, cheap, but it worked. It actually set a blueprint for some teams this season as they rough him up off ball, thus also explaining the drop off in his efficiency this season.

In a league of giants, it's very difficult for a jump-shooting guard to have prolonged success, although even what he's doing this season is still quite phenomenal.

[Vee-Rex]

Cavs Fans and supporters are the worst posters on this board. Cocky, and Sore losers and winners. It's almost been a year yet, you're still bringing up the same thing. I didn't see Warrior fans trashing The cavs after they won the chip. SMH just lock up this topic and see what happens in the playoffs.

Oh it was there lol. And it was pretty bad too.

I'm personally done with this topic but it was still an interesting read.

[BayArea408415]

Cavs Fans and supporters are the worst posters on this board. Cocky, and Sore losers and winners. It's almost been a year yet, you're still bringing up the same thing. I didn't see Warrior fans trashing The cavs after they won the chip. SMH just lock up this topic and see what happens in the playoffs.

It's not just Cavs fans. It's the Warriors haters. Unfortunately, the forum is full of the latter, which only increased after Durant joined (fair enough).

I can't believe the OP even started a thread like this in March 2017. This and related topics have had enough discussion post 2016 NBA Finals. We're closer to the 2017 NBA Finals at this point.

[bmurph128]

Cavs Fans and supporters are the worst posters on this board. Cocky, and Sore losers and winners. It's almost been a year yet, you're still bringing up the same thing. I didn't see Warrior fans trashing The cavs after they won the chip. SMH just lock up this topic and see what happens in the playoffs.

I disagree. There are other fan bases worse than us IMO.

And I'm not even sure the OP is a Cavs fan..

[baller16]

Curry couldn't take Enes Kanter or Kevin Love off the dribble. Injuries happen and it's part of the game, but let's not pretend he was anywhere close to where he should have been.

Personally, I think he still hasn't recovered and I don't know if he ever will. Sucks, but **** happens.

So your implying that he's still injured??

Just admit he was never injured in the finals. Dude was beasting in the WCF averaging 28/6/6 44% FG 41% 3P with 61% TS. Factoring in the playoff defense and game planning and those stats align with his RS stats. So was he playing injured in the WCF too? Also remember that he got a weeks rest after the WCF too.

I'm tired of these Warrior fans making up excuses/narratives

Yes, he was playing injured in the WCF. That's why they were able to effectively defend him 1v1 with poor defensive players. That's also why I had the thunder winning in 6.

Curry went from destroying double/triple teams to not being able to dribble past Enes Kanter or Kevin Love. You'd have to be a fool to think he was anywhere close to 100% after injuring is surgically repaired ankle (and knee).

LOL

I throw in his numbers as proof, and you back to me with some eye test. GTFO

"I don't know if 'hurt' is the right word. It was probably 'fatigued' or 'drained,' something to that measure more than hurt. Hurt implies he had some part of him that was injured and couldn't play," Myers said.

You heard it here first, from your very own GM.

Curry was also trash in the 2015 finals given that he was an MVP and going up against Lebron and bunch of bench scrubs. His finals history has been suspect and its looking like a correlation at this point.

[phanman]

Its just hard for fans to accept that their team lost fairly, and you know what that is okay. Its the competitive drive within each of us and obviously we grasp at anything to understand why. Warriors fans blame Dre's suspension and Curry not being 100% and Cavs fans blame key injuries to Love/Irving in 2015.

I mean is it that hard to just say that the Cavs have had a great game plan vs. the Curry two finals in a row and LeBron/Kyrie initiated god-mode to lead them back from a 3-1 deficit?

[Impuniti]

So your implying that he's still injured??

Just admit he was never injured in the finals. Dude was beasting in the WCF averaging 28/6/6 44% FG 41% 3P with 61% TS. Factoring in the playoff defense and game planning and those stats align with his RS stats. So was he playing injured in the WCF too? Also remember that he got a weeks rest after the WCF too.

I'm tired of these Warrior fans making up excuses/narratives

Yes, he was playing injured in the WCF. That's why they were able to effectively defend him 1v1 with poor defensive players. That's also why I had the thunder winning in 6.

Curry went from destroying double/triple teams to not being able to dribble past Enes Kanter or Kevin Love. You'd have to be a fool to think he was anywhere close to 100% after injuring is surgically repaired ankle (and knee).

LOL

I throw in his numbers as proof, and you back to me with some eye test. GTFO

"I don't know if 'hurt' is the right word. It was probably 'fatigued' or 'drained,' something to that measure more than hurt. Hurt implies he had some part of him that was injured and couldn't play," Myers said.

You heard it here first, from your very own GM.

Curry was also trash in the 2015 finals given that he was an MVP and going up against Lebron and bunch of bench scrubs. His finals history has been suspect and its looking like a correlation at this point.

What is the garbage hot takes?

[ILOVEIT]

IMO Curry has not does his dominant thing in the finals. But he's been amazing in the playoffs in general.

Warriors won a year where Cavs were hurt....
Cavs won a year where Warriors were hurt... (and the Draymond Green suspension)

I HOPE TO GOD a fully healthy Warriors team and a fully healthy Cav's team get a chance to play this year....I'm sooooo sick of the bull.

[JonFromVA]

*snip*

"I don't know if 'hurt' is the right word. It was probably 'fatigued' or 'drained,' something to that measure more than hurt. Hurt implies he had some part of him that was injured and couldn't play," Myers said.

You heard it here first, from your very own GM.

Curry was also trash in the 2015 finals given that he was an MVP and going up against Lebron and bunch of bench scrubs. His finals history has been suspect and its looking like a correlation at this point.

Of course Curry gave this reason for opting out of the Olympics:

“My previous experiences with USA Basketball have been incredibly rewarding, educational and enjoyable, which made this an extremely difficult decision for me and my family. However, due to several factors — including recent ankle and knee injuries — I believe this is the best decision for me at this stage of my career. It’s an incredible honor to represent your country and wear ‘USA’ on your chest, but my primary basketball-related objective this summer needs to focus on my body and getting ready for the 2016-17 NBA season.”

He could have just said, it's been a long season, and he needs a break to recuperate.

GMs and Coaches have their own language, possibly imposed by their lawyers, but their thinking is that they do not play an "injured" player. An injured player has to heal. A player who's been cleared to play, may have to play hurt ... but they're not injured and do not believe they can get further injured by playing hurt.

Of course that doesn't always work out, but ask someone with the Cavs and they will swear up and down that Kyrie's knee exploding on contact with Klay's was just a freak accident that had nothing whatsover to do with Kyrie playing hurt...

Believe that stuff if you want?

[Kupchak9]

For those of you just now chiming in. Let me summarize this thread for you.

Warriors fans: LOL. This is bull. Get a life OP.
Everyone else: Nice insights

[michaelm]

Its just hard for fans to accept that their team lost fairly, and you know what that is okay. Its the competitive drive within each of us and obviously we grasp at anything to understand why. Warriors fans blame Dre's suspension and Curry not being 100% and Cavs fans blame key injuries to Love/Irving in 2015.

I mean is it that hard to just say that the Cavs have had a great game plan vs. the Curry two finals in a row and LeBron/Kyrie initiated god-mode to lead them back from a 3-1 deficit?

No-one is denying any of what you say about the 2016 finals. It is the need to embroider this into Curry having "choked" which I and others are disputing, which is then further embroidered as dispute about the merits of Cavs title win, this from the same fan base, and in some cases the same posters, who spent all of last year disputing the merits of GSW's 2015 title win, and continue to do so, not infrequently in the same posts in which umbrage is being taken about GSW fans not accepting the "Curry choked" narrative.

[Lovethisgamegr]

and LeBron/Kyrie initiated god-mode to lead them back from a 3-1 deficit?

No-one is denying any of what you say about the 2016 finals.

NOONE (pure example of passive-aggressive)

aktownwarriors87 wrote:
On the other side of the ball LeBron James was almost never double teamed. The Warriors defended him 1v1 and dared him to take shots. He did, they were bad shots, and he shot a low percentage with high volume. But those PPG were high so everyone thought it was awesome!

michaelm » Yesterday 5:29 pm
I agree with you

[phanman]

Its just hard for fans to accept that their team lost fairly, and you know what that is okay. Its the competitive drive within each of us and obviously we grasp at anything to understand why. Warriors fans blame Dre's suspension and Curry not being 100% and Cavs fans blame key injuries to Love/Irving in 2015.

I mean is it that hard to just say that the Cavs have had a great game plan vs. the Curry two finals in a row and LeBron/Kyrie initiated god-mode to lead them back from a 3-1 deficit?

No-one is denying any of what you say about the 2016 finals. It is the need to embroider this into Curry having "choked" which I and others are disputing, which is then further embroidered as dispute about the merits of Cavs title win, this from the same fan base, and in some cases the same posters, who spent all of last year disputing the merits of GSW's 2015 title win, and continue to do so, not infrequently in the same posts in which umbrage is being taken about GSW fans not accepting the "Curry choked" narrative.

In essence, Curry(and the Warriors) did choke though. He had 3 very subpar closing games in which he failed to shoot >40% and a +/- negative in all 3 too. He settled for far too many 3's putting up 14 a game. Then you get into G7 specifics in where failed to take advantage of that Love matchup at the time of the key and that crucial behind the back pass to Thompson which ended out of bounds.

If Bron can get the "choker" narrative for his lost finals, than Curry the 2x, unanimous MVP can get that label too.

[michaelm]

and LeBron/Kyrie initiated god-mode to lead them back from a 3-1 deficit?

No-one is denying any of what you say about the 2016 finals.

NOONE (pure example of passive-aggressive)

aktownwarriors87 wrote:
On the other side of the ball LeBron James was almost never double teamed. The Warriors defended him 1v1 and dared him to take shots. He did, they were bad shots, and he shot a low percentage with high volume. But those PPG were high so everyone thought it was awesome!

michaelm » Yesterday 5:29 pm
I agree with you

Thank you for proving my point.

That post was in relation the 2015 finals and what I was in agreement with and in disagreement with you about was an opinion about Curry''s performance in those finals, which he and his team won btw, and at their first attempt. The necessity for the post was created by you not being able to quote properly, also btw.

[MartinToVaught]

I didn't see Warrior fans trashing The cavs after they won the chip.

Huh? There are still salty Warriors fans who insist that last year's Finals were rigged on almost a daily basis.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Locking this thread as it's gone off course and there's trolling from all sides. Interesting view OP (even if I disagree with it) and I appreciate you taking time out to post this.