Ricky Rubio is Wolves second best player without any doubt.

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Post#81 » by Rubio9Guy » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:32 pm

Edrees wrote:It's always been about health for Rubio, I knew he can ball like this but can he stay healthy for a full season? I hope so.

And most of his health concerns have been just dumb luck injuries.

I think the biggest concern is can he finish at the rim? His shooting is what it is so he needs to be able to score at the rim.

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Post#82 » by Pass_the_rock » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:38 pm

KokoKaizer wrote:
After watching this clip, My POV didn't change.

Rubio has still an amazing vision and The NBA is way too generous on giving assists...



Xherdan 23 wrote:They were VERY generous counting assists there, should have 12 at most.
Still, I like Rubio and I'm happy he's doing well.



But that's the way NBA wants to count/track the assists numbers. Basically all NBA players are enjoying it and the field is pretty even for everyone. I don't know why you're complaining, guys.
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Re: Ricky Rubio is Wolves second best player without any doubt. 

Post#83 » by KokoKaizer » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:47 pm

Pass_the_rock wrote:
KokoKaizer wrote:
After watching this clip, My POV didn't change.

Rubio has still an amazing vision and The NBA is way too generous on giving assists...



Xherdan 23 wrote:They were VERY generous counting assists there, should have 12 at most.
Still, I like Rubio and I'm happy he's doing well.



But that's the way NBA wants to count/track the assists numbers. Basically all NBA players are enjoying it and the field is pretty even for everyone. I don't know why you're complaining, guys.


In my case, I'm French, so I'm complaining about everything (even myself) 8-)
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Re: Ricky Rubio is Wolves second best player without any doubt. 

Post#84 » by cupcakesnake » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:21 pm

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jamaalstar21 wrote:Rubio's weaknesses are very real, so I understand the haters. But he's beyond elite at the things he's good at. He's a transcendent passer. He's an elite defensive point guard. The biggest question is his shooting/finishing so bad that teams will be able to neuter him in the playoffs. Until then, I cringe when i see trade rumours involving Rubio for (insert mediocre point guard who can shoot here).


I hardly watch Wolves unfortunately but is Rubio better than prime Rondo? Because when you mentioned great passer and defender with bad shooting Rondo is the first name i remember. I'm just wondering how Rubio manage to survive in this league when almost all the great PG are great or above average shooters now.


Rondo was a better finisher than Rubio has been. Rondo smaller defensively but also quicker. It's kinda murky to separate/rank great passers, but I think Rubio is on a higher level cerebrally and instinctively than prime Rondo. Rondo played amidst a ton of great shooters (Allen from 3, KG from 15-18 feet, and Pierce from everywhere) and he was really great at threading the needle and delivering the ball. Rubio makes passes i've never seen before, the kind of passes i need to see a few time in replay before i get it. But no the shooting thing is a massive problem, despite Rubio's god level passing, he definetily takes things off the table in a tangible way.
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Re: Ricky Rubio is Wolves second best player without any doubt. 

Post#85 » by Xherdan 23 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:23 pm

Pass_the_rock wrote:
KokoKaizer wrote:
After watching this clip, My POV didn't change.

Rubio has still an amazing vision and The NBA is way too generous on giving assists...



Xherdan 23 wrote:They were VERY generous counting assists there, should have 12 at most.
Still, I like Rubio and I'm happy he's doing well.



But that's the way NBA wants to count/track the assists numbers. Basically all NBA players are enjoying it and the field is pretty even for everyone. I don't know why you're complaining, guys.


I agree this is how it's counted for everyone, I just don't like it. It just looks ridiculous when a guy isolates, dribbles twice, pumpfakes and shoots and the guy that passed to him gets the assist 10 seconds after his pass.
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Post#86 » by Johnlac1 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:40 pm

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jinxed wrote:Btw..for anyone who didn't see it tonight, he had 22 points and 19 assists. Wait until you see the highlights for the first qtr where he dropped 10 dimes and one amazing bounce pass.




They were VERY generous counting assists there, should have 12 at most.
Still, I like Rubio and I'm happy he's doing well.
True, but maybe some day they'll have a stat for getting the ball to an open shooter whether he makes the shot or not. I think Rubio would still be way up there. Watching the Wolves previous game against the Bucks, in the first quarter Rubio had five or six passes to open shooters, including a few shots at the rim, where the shooter missed. He also has a few where the man was fouled while shooting and missed the shot. No assist for that even if the shooter makes both free throws.
Granted, that happens to all pgs. But Rubio still sees the floor and gets the ball to the open man better than all but a few pgs in the league.
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Post#87 » by lars_rosenberg » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:49 pm

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Johnny Firpo wrote:On a sidenote, KAT is a ridiculously good offensive player, if he ever puts it together on defense, he'll be the best player in the league, and probably by a good margin.

Call me crazy but he looks like the best and most dominant offensive PF/C since Shaq :o


You're forgetting Embiid, the GOAT, and Anthony Davis who's at least at the same level of KAT.
jonjames wrote:2nd best? Nah..it's still towns wiggins Lavine ahead of him hes had very good 2 week stretch..but hes always been invonsistent let's see if he can keep it up before making such statement.

Lavine is the perfect tank commander, the last player I'd want in a winning team.
Wiggins has similar attitude, but has more talent too, so there's a little not hope for him.
Right now Rubio is way better than both and counting both offense and defense probably as good as if not better than KAT.

the7boss wrote:The guy also went through the death of his mother and grandmother in a short period of time, being so far from home, it must have been pretty hard. Plus the constant trade rumours. Now he feels confident and is injury free, so this is the real Ricky. Hope he is lucky enough to keep it up, he deserves it.

I'm sure he is going to be a NBA champion at some point, he needs to make the right choice when his contract expires.


If you're implying he should take Tony Parker's place in San Antonio I agree with you.
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Re: Ricky Rubio is Wolves second best player without any doubt. 

Post#88 » by Vee-Rex » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:53 pm

I like Rubio, but I don't think the Wolves will get far with him as their PG of the future. He'll get the Tony Allen treatment in the playoffs when teams are game-planning and scheming around opponents weaknesses. Every year people forget about how much different the playoffs are until they happen.

And as a result, during the regular season, the narrative changes faster than kids swapping pokemon cards. Rubio (and most other players for that matter) become overrated if he has a good stretch of games, and then underrated if he has a bad stretch of games. Rubio is easily a top 15 point guard, probably somewhere in the 8-12'ish range, at least in the regular season.
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Post#89 » by simon24 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:20 pm

Phureal wrote:
Yoshun wrote:He's played really well the last 2 or 3 weeks. Outside of that, his season has been pretty underwhelming.


Right around the time that Lavine went down


I assume next season stick with Rush starting and LaVine off the bench.
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Post#90 » by madmaxmedia » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:32 pm

Plus he's always there to cheer up a teammate when he's down...
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Post#91 » by Hadley » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:38 pm

No he is not. Have you **** watched more of him than the last Game? That guy is terrible offensivly and defensivly - the only thing he can do is passing! You can't be sure if he can make a wide open layup consistently...
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Post#92 » by Pass_the_rock » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:51 pm

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Pass_the_rock wrote:
KokoKaizer wrote:
After watching this clip, My POV didn't change.

Rubio has still an amazing vision and The NBA is way too generous on giving assists...



Xherdan 23 wrote:They were VERY generous counting assists there, should have 12 at most.
Still, I like Rubio and I'm happy he's doing well.



But that's the way NBA wants to count/track the assists numbers. Basically all NBA players are enjoying it and the field is pretty even for everyone. I don't know why you're complaining, guys.


I agree this is how it's counted for everyone, I just don't like it. It just looks ridiculous when a guy isolates, dribbles twice, pumpfakes and shoots and the guy that passed to him gets the assist 10 seconds after his pass.


But a player passing the ball to the scorer still makes a decision that turns out a right one in case of points scored. The passer has other options in most cases and he has to make right decision of where the ball goes and he has to complete the pass, often having to work on the spacing, timing and angle of the pass. So what if the scorer decides to play around with the ball a little. Should it cancel the work the passer has done? This stat "motivates" the passer of the ball to make plays for others. I think NBA did right. Europe/Fiba is trailing behind as always :naaa: :usa:
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Post#93 » by DingleJerry » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:52 pm

I mean, hasn't he had a pretty blah season up until the last few weeks. Hot streak happens all the time for different players. I'm not saying he's horrible or trying to bash him or anything, just that 3-4 weeks doesn't always mean he's going to be like this ongoing for the foreseeable future. Especially with several years of track record at this point. Good for him staying healthy all year so far though, that's step 1 for him living up to his hype/potential.
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Post#94 » by Pass_the_rock » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:52 pm

Hadley wrote:No he is not. Have you **** watched more of him than the last Game? That guy is terrible offensivly and defensivly - the only thing he can do is passing! You can't be sure if he can make a wide open layup consistently...


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Post#95 » by wolves_89 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:18 pm

Rubio is currently 10th in RPM for point guards this season and 3rd among PGs in defensive RPM. Last season Rubio was 5th among PGs in RPM and 2nd in DRPM. Rubio being good isn't just some short stretch of play this season, he's been a very productive player for a long time.

The improved shooting and offensive aggressiveness over the last 15 games are really nice and I hope it continues, but that's only a small part of his overall value.
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Post#96 » by jinxed » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:34 pm

wolves_89 wrote:Rubio is currently 10th in RPM for point guards this season and 3rd among PGs in defensive RPM. Last season Rubio was 5th among PGs in RPM and 2nd in DRPM. Rubio being good isn't just some short stretch of play this season, he's been a very productive player for a long time.

The improved shooting and offensive aggressiveness over the last 15 games are really nice and I hope it continues, but that's only a small part of his overall value.


Cool, hadn't seen the new RPM numbers. They are updating them more frequently now. Rubio's RPM has increased dramatically over the last two weeks.
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Post#97 » by Avihs7 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:59 pm

Hadley wrote:No he is not. Have you **** watched more of him than the last Game? That guy is terrible offensivly and defensivly - the only thing he can do is passing! You can't be sure if he can make a wide open layup consistently...

He is one of the best defensive pgs in the league, and he's been on a tear for awhile now. So the the real question is, have u watched more of Rubio other then this last game
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Post#98 » by Pure_Basketball » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:06 pm

Gee I know he's been good, but he is getting severely over rated now off the back of 15-20 good games. Better than Dragic, hell no should anyone take Rubio over Dragic, then to top it off someone said they'd take him over Lillard and Kyrie Irving. For god sake lock this thread now.

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Post#99 » by Tussin33 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:08 pm

Rubio lol. What a troll thread. Lavine is our 2nd best player without a doubt. He's the only one that can hit a 3 with the game on the line.
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Post#100 » by Avihs7 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:09 pm

Tussin33 wrote:Rubio lol. What a troll thread. Lavine is our 2nd best player without a doubt. He's the only one that can hit a 3 with the game on the line.

LOL, u sure u aren't a troll.

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