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Re: Welcome Simmons 

Post#1581 » by Sportfan73 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:13 pm

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Kobblehead wrote:Fake injury. He can clearly play. He probably could have as early as January.

Always thought the same thing.

The thing is that if it's what he wanted, his agent wanted, and we wanted then so he it. I'm cool with it if everyone else is.


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Post#1582 » by 76thBearCub » Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:40 pm

He's not moving like a man with a bum foot. That's a relief to see.
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Re: Welcome Simmons 

Post#1583 » by Sixerscan » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:07 pm

Sportfan73 wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Fake injury. He can clearly play. He probably could have as early as January.

Always thought the same thing.

The thing is that if it's what he wanted, his agent wanted, and we wanted then so he it. I'm cool with it if everyone else is.


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I mean they injected bone marrow into his foot that's not a thing you just do for fun.
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Re: Welcome Simmons 

Post#1584 » by Kolkmania » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:29 am

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Read on Twitter


Interesting take. Let's hope it will work.


John Townsend, Sixers shooting coach, can be seen in the second tweet by Pompey. This is a quote from Townsend he said last summer. “If he can keep the ball a little bit out in front of his head, that will help with that elbow popping up,” he says. “That way he’ll shoot it out and over the top of the rim as opposed to at the front of the rim. The basket will get a little bit bigger for him. … Especially right now, the key is knocking down free throws.”

With all due respect, but if I watch him shooting FT's in those clips I don't see much improvement from Simmons' form this summer. In the first clip you can see his elbow pointing towards the corner of the field and in the second clip the wrist movement looks extremely mechanic.

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Perhaps Simmons doesn't like the adjustments and he'd rather shoot this way, but to me it seems a tat disappointing. But I would have loved an attempt to change his shooting hand, so what do I know. Look at the next clip and the Curry-esque floater he casually threw with his right hand, he's got so much touch with that hand...

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This is example might be even more evident. Rob and Ben are fooling around and trying circus shots, attempting an over the back half court shot, but what do we see? Simmons throws it with his non-shooting right hand. It's so obvious he's more familiar with it.



Okay, sorry for the rant. I'll retrieve in my attic, throwing little toy basketballs in the bin and let the actual shooting coaches do their job.
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Re: Welcome Simmons 

Post#1585 » by cksdayoff » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:06 am

Kolkmania wrote:
Perhaps Simmons doesn't like the adjustments and he'd rather shoot this way, but to me it seems a tat disappointing. But I would have loved an attempt to change his shooting hand, so what do I know. Look at the next clip and the Curry-esque floater he casually threw with his right hand, he's got so much touch with that hand...

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That floater looks like a semi-jumper...that form and wrist flip looks way less mechanical than when he does it with his left hand. Doesn't make any sense to me


This is example might be even more evident. Rob and Ben are fooling around and trying circus shots, attempting an over the back half court shot, but what do we see? Simmons throws it with his non-shooting right hand. It's so obvious he's more familiar with it.


How the hell do NBA players miss so badly from half court
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Re: Welcome Simmons 

Post#1586 » by Kolkmania » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:38 am

cksdayoff wrote:How the hell do NBA players miss so badly from half court


Justin Anderson can barely shoot it that far with his ridiculously forced shooting form, let alone aim properly. He sort of pushes the ball towards the basket instead of using his elbow and wrist. :lol:
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Post#1587 » by SparksFly87 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:50 pm

I think next year Simmons should be slotted at the 3 surrounded with Covington at the 2 and Saric 4. I want to build a team that can sustain without Embiid while giving Simmons the best oppourtunity to a success. I want Saric, Holmes and who ever else to bang with the PF's . Covington and Luwawu and company to guard the toughiest wing matchup between the 2 and 3. Bayless and a high draft pick at the 1 spot who can create his own shot and scorer will make Simmons job easier.
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Re: Welcome Simmons 

Post#1588 » by nurseryc » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:39 pm

Can we get an update on Simmons foot? There has been no new information. Is his foot now fully healed? Did the injection work? Does he need surgery?
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Post#1589 » by Ericb5 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:11 pm

nurseryc wrote:Can we get an update on Simmons foot? There has been no new information. Is his foot now fully healed? Did the injection work? Does he need surgery?


After his last scan they said that he would have another scan in a month, and that means that it is probably in the next few days. We will probably get an update after that, and hopefully it is good.
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Post#1590 » by Sixerscan » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:30 pm

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nurseryc wrote:Can we get an update on Simmons foot? There has been no new information. Is his foot now fully healed? Did the injection work? Does he need surgery?


After his last scan they said that he would have another scan in a month, and that means that it is probably in the next few days. We will probably get an update after that, and hopefully it is good.


Tomorrow is a month and they said there's no scan scheduled.
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Post#1591 » by TheAntiTrump » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:14 pm

I don't know what those Injections are that they're giving Simmons. But I do know that a Jones fracture will only heal so much because that area gets very little Blood flow. That is why on over 95 % of ALL Jones fractures, that a second procedure ( Bone Graft )...has to be performed because it greatly increases healing and strength. This is what Kevin Durant finally decided to have after his initial Jones Injury. At first he did not want it, and tried to play...he did for a while, but eventually had the Bone Graft done.


I know of NO types of " Injections " that further promote the advanced healing & Strength of a Jones fracture. This is why I totally question the knowledge of these Sixer Doctors. As far as I know...the ONLY thing that can further heal a Jones fracture IS a second surgery of a Bone Graft. Otherwise, no amount of further rest, or exercise will ever heal his Injury more then it is, or was 2 months ago.


But, if they continue to wait, and wait, and wait..HOPING that the rest will further along his healing. Then those Doctors are QUACKS!! Eventually Simmons will have to likely have that Bone Graft procedure done, and if they wait too long, it will hinder him from being ready for next year.
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Post#1592 » by Ericb5 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:41 pm

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nurseryc wrote:Can we get an update on Simmons foot? There has been no new information. Is his foot now fully healed? Did the injection work? Does he need surgery?


After his last scan they said that he would have another scan in a month, and that means that it is probably in the next few days. We will probably get an update after that, and hopefully it is good.


Tomorrow is a month and they said there's no scan scheduled.


They said a month ago that he would have another one in a month. Are you saying that they have clarified that statement, or just that there is nothing scheduled for tomorrow?
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Post#1593 » by Sixerscan » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:45 pm

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Ericb5 wrote:
After his last scan they said that he would have another scan in a month, and that means that it is probably in the next few days. We will probably get an update after that, and hopefully it is good.


Tomorrow is a month and they said there's no scan scheduled.


They said a month ago that he would have another one in a month. Are you saying that they have clarified that statement, or just that there is nothing scheduled for tomorrow?


I'm saying that they told tom Moore that as of yesterday there was no scanned presently scheduled.

http://www.buckscountycouriertimes.com/sports/sixers/the-sixers-joel-embiid-s-knee-surgery-still-not-scheduled/article_727da709-dd79-5c4b-ba8b-2c2a9e6eaaf9.html
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Post#1594 » by Sixerscan » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:46 pm

TheAntiTrump wrote:I don't know what those Injections are that they're giving Simmons. But I do know that a Jones fracture will only heal so much because that area gets very little Blood flow. That is why on over 95 % of ALL Jones fractures, that a second procedure ( Bone Graft )...has to be performed because it greatly increases healing and strength. This is what Kevin Durant finally decided to have after his initial Jones Injury. At first he did not want it, and tried to play...he did for a while, but eventually had the Bone Graft done.


I know of NO types of " Injections " that further promote the advanced healing & Strength of a Jones fracture. This is why I totally question the knowledge of these Sixer Doctors. As far as I know...the ONLY thing that can further heal a Jones fracture IS a second surgery of a Bone Graft. Otherwise, no amount of further rest, or exercise will ever heal his Injury more then it is, or was 2 months ago.


But, if they continue to wait, and wait, and wait..HOPING that the rest will further along his healing. Then those Doctors are QUACKS!! Eventually Simmons will have to likely have that Bone Graft procedure done, and if they wait too long, it will hinder him from being ready for next year.


That 95% number doesn't seem to jive with journal articles I've read. Are you saying people that don't feel properly from a non graft surgery eventually need a graft 95% of the time?
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Post#1595 » by Kobblehead » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:52 pm

Why follow up with a scan of the phantom setback when the majority of people pressing for details have disappeared? The story has no legs so they don't have to keep up the charade.
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Post#1596 » by Sixerscan » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:56 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Why follow up with a scan of the phantom setback when the majority of people pressing for details have disappeared? The story has no legs so they don't have to keep up the charade.

Im curious about this conspiracy. Are you saying you think they didn't inject bone marrow into his foot last month? That they just did it for fun?
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Post#1597 » by TheAntiTrump » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:58 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
TheAntiTrump wrote:I don't know what those Injections are that they're giving Simmons. But I do know that a Jones fracture will only heal so much because that area gets very little Blood flow. That is why on over 95 % of ALL Jones fractures, that a second procedure ( Bone Graft )...has to be performed because it greatly increases healing and strength. This is what Kevin Durant finally decided to have after his initial Jones Injury. At first he did not want it, and tried to play...he did for a while, but eventually had the Bone Graft done.


I know of NO types of " Injections " that further promote the advanced healing & Strength of a Jones fracture. This is why I totally question the knowledge of these Sixer Doctors. As far as I know...the ONLY thing that can further heal a Jones fracture IS a second surgery of a Bone Graft. Otherwise, no amount of further rest, or exercise will ever heal his Injury more then it is, or was 2 months ago.


But, if they continue to wait, and wait, and wait..HOPING that the rest will further along his healing. Then those Doctors are QUACKS!! Eventually Simmons will have to likely have that Bone Graft procedure done, and if they wait too long, it will hinder him from being ready for next year.


That 95% number doesn't seem to jive with journal articles I've read. Are you saying people that don't feel properly from a non graft surgery eventually need a graft 95% of the time?





I was told by one of the best surgeons that if after a Jones surgery..if there is not complete healing, then the number of secondary procedures in having a Bone graft is around 95 %. However, even though that is the best and most proven method of completely healing that injury, there are other methods to promote further healing without the second surgery ( Bone graft )..which will require at least 6 months before even trying to comeback. Maybe one of those methods is the " Bone Marrow " Injection that Simmons got. Now, maybe that will work, maybe not. But, if this decision was more Ben Simmon's and his camp because they do not wanna have a second surgery, and at least 6-8 more months of recovery, rather then the advice of Medical experts, then this I fear will not end well for us. All this rest/delay/BM Injections...might just be putting off the inevitable...which is a Bone Graft surgery. And even if Simmons had that done today, the earliest he could even start to practice would be late Nov/early December.


I really hope I am wrong, and that those Marrow injections do work, and Simmons is ready to go by July/August.
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Post#1598 » by Sixerscan » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:05 pm

TheAntiTrump wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
TheAntiTrump wrote:I don't know what those Injections are that they're giving Simmons. But I do know that a Jones fracture will only heal so much because that area gets very little Blood flow. That is why on over 95 % of ALL Jones fractures, that a second procedure ( Bone Graft )...has to be performed because it greatly increases healing and strength. This is what Kevin Durant finally decided to have after his initial Jones Injury. At first he did not want it, and tried to play...he did for a while, but eventually had the Bone Graft done.


I know of NO types of " Injections " that further promote the advanced healing & Strength of a Jones fracture. This is why I totally question the knowledge of these Sixer Doctors. As far as I know...the ONLY thing that can further heal a Jones fracture IS a second surgery of a Bone Graft. Otherwise, no amount of further rest, or exercise will ever heal his Injury more then it is, or was 2 months ago.


But, if they continue to wait, and wait, and wait..HOPING that the rest will further along his healing. Then those Doctors are QUACKS!! Eventually Simmons will have to likely have that Bone Graft procedure done, and if they wait too long, it will hinder him from being ready for next year.


That 95% number doesn't seem to jive with journal articles I've read. Are you saying people that don't feel properly from a non graft surgery eventually need a graft 95% of the time?





I was told by one of the best surgeons that if after a Jones surgery..if there is not complete healing, then the number of secondary procedures in having a Bone graft is around 95 %. However, even though that is the best and most proven method of completely healing that injury, there are other methods to promote further healing without the second surgery ( Bone graft )..which will require at least 6 months before even trying to comeback. Maybe one of those methods is the " Bone Marrow " Injection that Simmons got. Now, maybe that will work, maybe not. But, if this decision was more Ben Simmon's and his camp because they do not wanna have a second surgery, and at least 6-8 more months of recovery, rather then the advice of Medical experts, then this I fear will not end well for us. All this rest/delay/BM Injections...might just be putting off the inevitable...which is a Bone Graft surgery. And even if Simmons had that done today, the earliest he could even start to practice would be late Nov/early December.


I really hope I am wrong, and that those Marrow injections do work, and Simmons is ready to go by July/August.


Ok that makes more sense. It sounded like you were saying that a non bone graft surgery is followed by a second bone graft surgery 95% of the team which seems wrong.

Though I will say if he does need another surgery the fact that he's dunking etc still is going to look super dumb!
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Re: Welcome Simmons 

Post#1599 » by Kolkmania » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:11 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
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Tomorrow is a month and they said there's no scan scheduled.


They said a month ago that he would have another one in a month. Are you saying that they have clarified that statement, or just that there is nothing scheduled for tomorrow?


I'm saying that they told tom Moore that as of yesterday there was no scanned presently scheduled.

http://www.buckscountycouriertimes.com/sports/sixers/the-sixers-joel-embiid-s-knee-surgery-still-not-scheduled/article_727da709-dd79-5c4b-ba8b-2c2a9e6eaaf9.html


This is just sketchy as ****. Since Simmons' workload is based on those scans, how is it possible that there isn't a monthly one scheduled? I'm not buying the conspiracy theories that the Sixers made an entire story up about injections etc, but what would be a possible explanation for not planning a monthly scan?

Either that source has wrong information or yet another lie is unveiled.
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Post#1600 » by Sixerscan » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:14 pm

Kolkmania wrote:
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Ericb5 wrote:
They said a month ago that he would have another one in a month. Are you saying that they have clarified that statement, or just that there is nothing scheduled for tomorrow?


I'm saying that they told tom Moore that as of yesterday there was no scanned presently scheduled.

http://www.buckscountycouriertimes.com/sports/sixers/the-sixers-joel-embiid-s-knee-surgery-still-not-scheduled/article_727da709-dd79-5c4b-ba8b-2c2a9e6eaaf9.html


This is just sketchy as ****. Since Simmons' workload is based on those scans, how is it possible that there isn't a monthly one scheduled? I'm not buying the conspiracy theories that the Sixers made an entire story up about injections etc, but what would be a possible explanation for not planning a monthly scan?

Either that source has wrong information or yet another lie is unveiled.


Maybe they couldn't get an appointment.

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