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Post#1601 » by mksp » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:19 pm

TheAntiTrump wrote:I don't know what those Injections are that they're giving Simmons. But I do know that a Jones fracture will only heal so much because that area gets very little Blood flow. That is why on over 95 % of ALL Jones fractures, that a second procedure ( Bone Graft )...has to be performed because it greatly increases healing and strength. This is what Kevin Durant finally decided to have after his initial Jones Injury. At first he did not want it, and tried to play...he did for a while, but eventually had the Bone Graft done.


I know of NO types of " Injections " that further promote the advanced healing & Strength of a Jones fracture. This is why I totally question the knowledge of these Sixer Doctors. As far as I know...the ONLY thing that can further heal a Jones fracture IS a second surgery of a Bone Graft. Otherwise, no amount of further rest, or exercise will ever heal his Injury more then it is, or was 2 months ago.


But, if they continue to wait, and wait, and wait..HOPING that the rest will further along his healing. Then those Doctors are QUACKS!! Eventually Simmons will have to likely have that Bone Graft procedure done, and if they wait too long, it will hinder him from being ready for next year.


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Post#1602 » by mksp » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:20 pm

Also, there almost certainly was a bone graft as part of the original procedure. Was there an article stating there wasn't?
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Post#1603 » by Arsenal » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:26 pm

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TheAntiTrump wrote:I don't know what those Injections are that they're giving Simmons. But I do know that a Jones fracture will only heal so much because that area gets very little Blood flow. That is why on over 95 % of ALL Jones fractures, that a second procedure ( Bone Graft )...has to be performed because it greatly increases healing and strength. This is what Kevin Durant finally decided to have after his initial Jones Injury. At first he did not want it, and tried to play...he did for a while, but eventually had the Bone Graft done.


I know of NO types of " Injections " that further promote the advanced healing & Strength of a Jones fracture. This is why I totally question the knowledge of these Sixer Doctors. As far as I know...the ONLY thing that can further heal a Jones fracture IS a second surgery of a Bone Graft. Otherwise, no amount of further rest, or exercise will ever heal his Injury more then it is, or was 2 months ago.


But, if they continue to wait, and wait, and wait..HOPING that the rest will further along his healing. Then those Doctors are QUACKS!! Eventually Simmons will have to likely have that Bone Graft procedure done, and if they wait too long, it will hinder him from being ready for next year.


That 95% number doesn't seem to jive with journal articles I've read. Are you saying people that don't feel properly from a non graft surgery eventually need a graft 95% of the time?





I was told by one of the best surgeons that if after a Jones surgery..if there is not complete healing, then the number of secondary procedures in having a Bone graft is around 95 %. However, even though that is the best and most proven method of completely healing that injury, there are other methods to promote further healing without the second surgery ( Bone graft )..which will require at least 6 months before even trying to comeback. Maybe one of those methods is the " Bone Marrow " Injection that Simmons got. Now, maybe that will work, maybe not. But, if this decision was more Ben Simmon's and his camp because they do not wanna have a second surgery, and at least 6-8 more months of recovery, rather then the advice of Medical experts, then this I fear will not end well for us. All this rest/delay/BM Injections...might just be putting off the inevitable...which is a Bone Graft surgery. And even if Simmons had that done today, the earliest he could even start to practice would be late Nov/early December.


I really hope I am wrong, and that those Marrow injections do work, and Simmons is ready to go by July/August.


Where are you getting these timeframes from? I've seen 4-6 months for a bone graft on a Jones fracture. In fact, Dez Bryant of the Cowboys came back in around 2 months from a bone graft on a Jones fracture. It likely depends on exactly what type of Jones fracture we're talking about, however I've never seen an 8-9 month timeframe like you are claiming (late Nov / early Dec).
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Post#1604 » by Arsenal » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:28 pm

Re: the bone marrow injection - they may have done this even if healing is going fine. More of a "won't hurt, could help" type of situation, plus it helps with the "optics" of shutting him down for the rest of the year. We'll only know the real story once we see if he has a second surgery in the next month or two.
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Post#1605 » by TheAntiTrump » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:30 pm

mksp wrote:
TheAntiTrump wrote:I don't know what those Injections are that they're giving Simmons. But I do know that a Jones fracture will only heal so much because that area gets very little Blood flow. That is why on over 95 % of ALL Jones fractures, that a second procedure ( Bone Graft )...has to be performed because it greatly increases healing and strength. This is what Kevin Durant finally decided to have after his initial Jones Injury. At first he did not want it, and tried to play...he did for a while, but eventually had the Bone Graft done.


I know of NO types of " Injections " that further promote the advanced healing & Strength of a Jones fracture. This is why I totally question the knowledge of these Sixer Doctors. As far as I know...the ONLY thing that can further heal a Jones fracture IS a second surgery of a Bone Graft. Otherwise, no amount of further rest, or exercise will ever heal his Injury more then it is, or was 2 months ago.


But, if they continue to wait, and wait, and wait..HOPING that the rest will further along his healing. Then those Doctors are QUACKS!! Eventually Simmons will have to likely have that Bone Graft procedure done, and if they wait too long, it will hinder him from being ready for next year.


Ben's surgeon knows what he's doing.






Okay but lets assume something. Lets say, after two months more, the Sixers suddenly announce that Simmons will have to have that Bone graft surgery, and that would mean he would miss his whole second NBA season. What would all your opinions be on the medical staff then ? I hope I am wrong of course. But lets just say that it does happen...what then ?
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Post#1606 » by kriss73 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:41 pm

Come on guys, Simmons' surgeon was dr. O'Malley.

The surgery was performed by Dr. Martin O’Malley at the Hospital of Special Surgery in New York. O’Malley performed surgeries to repair similar foot injuries for Kevin Durant, Brook Lopez, and other NBA stars. He was also the surgeon who performed the bone graft operation on Joel Embiid’s navicular bone last summer.

He's not in the Sixers' staff. He was the surgeon of Durant's second surgery.
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Post#1607 » by Kolkmania » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:54 pm

kriss73 wrote:Come on guys, Simmons' surgeon was dr. O'Malley.

The surgery was performed by Dr. Martin O’Malley at the Hospital of Special Surgery in New York. O’Malley performed surgeries to repair similar foot injuries for Kevin Durant, Brook Lopez, and other NBA stars. He was also the surgeon who performed the bone graft operation on Joel Embiid’s navicular bone last summer.

He's not in the Sixers' staff. He was the surgeon of Durant's second surgery.
Every body heals differently and every man can make mistakes, but I bet he knows what is doing, bone graft or not.


But is O'Malley in charge of the daily supervision? We've seen Simmons dunking early this year, then shut down for a couple of weeks and now he's dunking and running again. IF his foot is still not healed, the Sixers' staff will look extremely dysfunctional (they already have that stamp on them to be honest).
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Post#1608 » by kriss73 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:08 pm

Kolkmania wrote:
kriss73 wrote:Come on guys, Simmons' surgeon was dr. O'Malley.

The surgery was performed by Dr. Martin O’Malley at the Hospital of Special Surgery in New York. O’Malley performed surgeries to repair similar foot injuries for Kevin Durant, Brook Lopez, and other NBA stars. He was also the surgeon who performed the bone graft operation on Joel Embiid’s navicular bone last summer.

He's not in the Sixers' staff. He was the surgeon of Durant's second surgery.
Every body heals differently and every man can make mistakes, but I bet he knows what is doing, bone graft or not.


But is O'Malley in charge of the daily supervision? We've seen Simmons dunking early this year, then shut down for a couple of weeks and now he's dunking and running again. IF his foot is still not healed, the Sixers' staff will look extremely dysfunctional (they already have that stamp on them to be honest).



I suppose that the doctors in charge of the daily supervision had a plan shared with dr.O'Malley.

Take a look at this news of today:

The Minnesota Timberwolves today announced that Nemanja Bjelica underwent successful surgery this afternoon to repair a fractured navicular bone in his left foot. The surgery was performed at Hospital For Special Surgery in New York by Dr. Martin O’Malley in collaboration with Timberwolves Team Orthopedic Surgeon Dr. Diane Dahm of Mayo Clinic.

Dr. O'Malley is elite and he works in collaboration with the team's doctors.

Imho noone wanted Simmons in a game this year. Anyone but Simmons himself probably.
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Post#1609 » by nurseryc » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:57 pm

Simmons needs to be booked in for the second surgery to happen immediately.
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Post#1610 » by 76ciology » Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:48 am

Will our opponent guard Simmons with their SF or PF?
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Post#1611 » by Unbreakable99 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 2:17 am

76ciology wrote:Will our opponent guard Simmons with their SF or PF?


Depends on how their team is constructed but most likely SF. I can't see Blake Griffin or AD or Aldridge or Love or Ibaka guarding Simmons. They will put their tallest most mobile wing on him. Someone like Ariza.
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Post#1612 » by 76ciology » Thu Mar 23, 2017 2:24 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:
76ciology wrote:Will our opponent guard Simmons with their SF or PF?


Depends on how their team is constructed but most likely SF. I can't see Blake Griffin or AD or Aldridge or Love or Ibaka guarding Simmons. They will put their tallest most mobile wing on him. Someone like Ariza.


They'd probably just defend him like KD (tall SF) but sag off him.

That said, I hope we land Josh Jackson then force a mismatch with Josh Jackson versus opponets PF.
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Post#1613 » by Simmons25 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:41 am

Well here it is. Exclusive footage of Ben Simmons first ever dunk in basketball. It also answers the question as to whether he is naturally left or right handed and which hand he should shoot with... or does it :lol: PS: He definitely appears to be dribbling with his left hand to me.

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Post#1614 » by Ericb5 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:04 pm

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They said a month ago that he would have another one in a month. Are you saying that they have clarified that statement, or just that there is nothing scheduled for tomorrow?


I'm saying that they told tom Moore that as of yesterday there was no scanned presently scheduled.

http://www.buckscountycouriertimes.com/sports/sixers/the-sixers-joel-embiid-s-knee-surgery-still-not-scheduled/article_727da709-dd79-5c4b-ba8b-2c2a9e6eaaf9.html


This is just sketchy as ****. Since Simmons' workload is based on those scans, how is it possible that there isn't a monthly one scheduled? I'm not buying the conspiracy theories that the Sixers made an entire story up about injections etc, but what would be a possible explanation for not planning a monthly scan?

Either that source has wrong information or yet another lie is unveiled.


Agreed. They literally said a month ago that he would have a scan in another month, so if there isn't one scheduled right now I am really confused by that.
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Post#1615 » by XtremeDunkz » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:41 pm

Simmons is fine. He has been fine for a long time.
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Post#1616 » by Ericb5 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:37 am

XtremeDunkz wrote:Simmons is fine. He has been fine for a long time.


I'm not worried about him. I believe that he is fine too, or at least not in trouble physically, but it is confusing for them to not have a scan scheduled when they said that they did.




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Post#1617 » by CoreyGallagher » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:11 am

CoreyGallagher wrote:I hope the Cavs don't take Embiid because then we'll take Embiid.
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Post#1618 » by 76ciology » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:26 am

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I'm waiting for that day when Simmons actually practice his 3pt shooting.
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Post#1619 » by GimmeDat » Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:52 am

So what's the actual go with Simmons right now? Vague question I guess and you may not know the answer yourself, but it's been quiet and the news that has been out confusing. I've seen the recent videos of him out practicing, the drills he was doing you'd assume he was healed?
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Post#1620 » by freshie2 » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:47 am

GimmeDat wrote:So what's the actual go with Simmons right now? Vague question I guess and you may not know the answer yourself, but it's been quiet and the news that has been out confusing. I've seen the recent videos of him out practicing, the drills he was doing you'd assume he was healed?


I think if the sixers were competing for the 4th best record he would be playing. Given they are competing for the 4th worst they are being very conservative.

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