Best plan for this team this summer

[Finn McCool]

Boy it has been a long time since I posted. Been lurking a bit though.

1. I hope we tank. Even if its a stinky lotto pick, we need to move up every spot we can. In addition, making the playoffs may actually convince SVG and the players that this mix is tweakable. It is not.
2. Win the lotto (probably the only real way we make any meaningful improvement
3. Assuming we can't do #2, Reggie must go. Dre has value. Big, talented, agile, young. He is terribly unmotivated, but moving to a team with a legit superstar where he is the third or 4th option and only allowed garbage baskets would be amazing for him. Which leads to...
4. Very few plays should be run for Dre. He should be fazed out of the offense and used primarily for rebounds and garbage hoops. The team needs a complete change in play calling to lessen the pick n roll offense.
5. Resign KCP regardless. Just do it. He plays hard even when we suck and it is the market rate.
6. As others said, its time to start Stanley. Get what you can for Mook. It is the only chance we have of not being a perennial doormat.

If the Pistons tank, the Bulls will probably slide up. Thus, the Pistons will end up in last place in the Central Division, making it twice under SVG. Only one other Coach in the history of the Pistons has ended up taking the team to those depths. That would put Van Gundy in historically sad company.

And I'll make sure I slam Tom Gores' twitter account with that info.

[ElectricMayhem]

We can only hope the commish wants to put a star in Detroit to go with their new arena and keep basketball healthy in Detroit. The first or second pick means we could anoint one of Fultz or Ball as the PG of the future, see if we can give away Reggie without losing too many assets and either trade away Drummond or see if one of those young PGs can light a fire under him.

If we trade away Drummond, I think his future will be highly dependent on what type of infrastructure he is surrounded by. The guy is no leader and definitely looks to others for cues. I think you put him on SA where he has a limited and specialized role and he goes back to being a dominant rebounder who racks up garbage points while the guys around him make winning plays. Put him on a bad team and he'll mentally check out while giving post-game interviews about playing with heart, grit, and passion.

[Manocad]

A plane crash?

Unfortunately dead people remain on the cap, but maybe the league would feel bad for us and let us move up to the 3rd pick in the lottery.

Well, one player dead or disabled does, but the League can grant a disabled player exception. In the case of the kind of disaster being discussed here I'm pretty sure something would have to be done or they'd pretty much have to shut the team down with little to no available money. That said, a plane crash, c'mon man!?

Just joking, of course. Speaking in hyper bowl (credit to Terry Foster).

[King Bugs]

I keep seeing "trade RJ" in a lot of summer scenarios, but I would be surprised if he isn't a Piston in the fall.

With at least 4 teams about to end up with a shiny new PG in the upcoming draft and more intriguing and/or cheaper PGs on the trade market (Collison, Knight, Rubio, Mudiay, Rose, & Payton) that also couldn't find a new home at trade deadline btw, who would even bother trading for him? I'm feeling like a lot of teams looking to trade a PG this summer will end up being very disappointed.

GMs don't view RJ as starting caliber anymore, that contract is ugly, and his knee is shot. Finding a team to dump that contract on would be incredible. What's plan B if Reggie is still on the roster come September & getting ready to make 16 million?

[Han Solo]

I keep seeing "trade RJ" in a lot of summer scenarios, but I would be surprised if he isn't a Piston in the fall.

With at least 4 teams about to end up with a shiny new PG in the upcoming draft and more intriguing and/or cheaper PGs on the trade market (Collison, Knight, Rubio, Mudiay, Rose, & Payton) that also couldn't find a new home at trade deadline btw, who would even bother trading for him? I'm feeling like a lot of teams looking to trade a PG this summer will end up being very disappointed.

GMs don't view RJ as starting caliber anymore, that contract is ugly, and his knee is shot. Finding a team to dump that contract on would be incredible. What's plan B if Reggie is still on the roster come September & getting ready to make 16 million?

Agree

[Pharaoh]

DAL needs a PG - even if they draft one RJ can be the bridge for a couple of seasons

IND - Teague is a free agent and will command $20+ mil

LAC - CP3 could be a FA

NOP - Jrue is a FA

NYK - Rose is a FA

SAC - Collison is a FA but will likely draft guards

So there's 5 options, maybe more for RJ this off-season





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[DBC10]

I keep seeing "trade RJ" in a lot of summer scenarios, but I would be surprised if he isn't a Piston in the fall.

With at least 4 teams about to end up with a shiny new PG in the upcoming draft and more intriguing and/or cheaper PGs on the trade market (Collison, Knight, Rubio, Mudiay, Rose, & Payton) that also couldn't find a new home at trade deadline btw, who would even bother trading for him? I'm feeling like a lot of teams looking to trade a PG this summer will end up being very disappointed.

GMs don't view RJ as starting caliber anymore, that contract is ugly, and his knee is shot. Finding a team to dump that contract on would be incredible. What's plan B if Reggie is still on the roster come September & getting ready to make 16 million?

Well, in that case, we'd be giving up an asset to dump RJ to someone else. And depending on how this offseason looks, that might be the best option out there.

[The Penguin]

I keep seeing "trade RJ" in a lot of summer scenarios, but I would be surprised if he isn't a Piston in the fall.

With at least 4 teams about to end up with a shiny new PG in the upcoming draft and more intriguing and/or cheaper PGs on the trade market (Collison, Knight, Rubio, Mudiay, Rose, & Payton) that also couldn't find a new home at trade deadline btw, who would even bother trading for him? I'm feeling like a lot of teams looking to trade a PG this summer will end up being very disappointed.

GMs don't view RJ as starting caliber anymore, that contract is ugly, and his knee is shot. Finding a team to dump that contract on would be incredible. What's plan B if Reggie is still on the roster come September & getting ready to make 16 million?

That's my biggest fear. I think we are really going to regret not dumping him at the deadline if anything was on the table. There are some big junk contracts out there that we could potentially do a junk for junk, but short of someone like the Knicks doing something the Knicks would do or the Nets taking a chance on him due to limited available resources, I think we are going to be stuck.

[In SVG We Trust]

So okay, I need to up this thread. I think Wizards aren't able to offer big money to Otto Porter. How about a S&T offering Marcus? It seems pretty reasonable.

Re-sign KCP and Otto, trade Reggie, Dre, Marjanovic and even Harris or Leuer. You have KCP and Otto and young fellas around there. If someone takes a step to the next level, we build around him, if not, that team would guarantee us a top 5 bottom pick.

[sc8581]

So okay, I need to up this thread. I think Wizards aren't able to offer big money to Otto Porter. How about a S&T offering Marcus? It seems pretty reasonable.

Re-sign KCP and Otto, trade Reggie, Dre, Marjanovic and even Harris or Leuer. You have KCP and Otto and young fellas around there. If someone takes a step to the next level, we build around him, if not, that team would guarantee us a top 5 bottom pick.

What makes you think the Wizards can't afford to keep Porter yet we can pay him and KCP to go along with all of the other big contracts we have?

[In SVG We Trust]

So okay, I need to up this thread. I think Wizards aren't able to offer big money to Otto Porter. How about a S&T offering Marcus? It seems pretty reasonable.

Re-sign KCP and Otto, trade Reggie, Dre, Marjanovic and even Harris or Leuer. You have KCP and Otto and young fellas around there. If someone takes a step to the next level, we build around him, if not, that team would guarantee us a top 5 bottom pick.

What makes you think the Wizards can't afford to keep Porter yet we can pay him and KCP to go along with all of the other big contracts we have?

You can read it in the post you quoted man

[SamFlow]

Team needs a leader.
Team needs a PG.
Team needs a go to scorer.
Team needs some defense.
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Jackson gone.
Ish backup.
KCP maybe a year from being a really good, but not great, starter. He is a ... good... starter now. Nothing special, but does defense proud and scores decent.
Great backup SF's and PF's. Need a starter.
Defense needed at the Center spot. Blocks. Individual. Team.
...

This team needs ALOT. High paid guys, see what you can get in trade. Reggie, just go. Dre, won't trade for squat, but will for good potential and young and cheap. Who wouldn't swap for the pacers young center? Bird, that's who.

If every player played to there potential, we are a fine playoff team. - - - Why are we not playing to our potential?

I'm all for giving Gundy another year.
I'm against giving Reggie another year.
I'm ok with giving Dre another year.

[russkopp]

Team needs a leader.
Team needs a PG.
Team needs a go to scorer.
Team needs some defense.
-----

Jackson gone.
Ish backup.
KCP maybe a year from being a really good, but not great, starter. He is a ... good... starter now. Nothing special, but does defense proud and scores decent.
Great backup SF's and PF's. Need a starter.
Defense needed at the Center spot. Blocks. Individual. Team.
...

This team needs ALOT. High paid guys, see what you can get in trade. Reggie, just go. Dre, won't trade for squat, but will for good potential and young and cheap. Who wouldn't swap for the pacers young center? Bird, that's who.

If every player played to there potential, we are a fine playoff team. - - - Why are we not playing to our potential?

I'm all for giving Gundy another year.
I'm against giving Reggie another year.
I'm ok with giving Dre another year.

Pretty much sums up what I came here to say.