College basketball and 2017 draft - One more poll after last game

RaisingArizona · Post #1541 » by **RaisingArizona** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:17 am

Ball= JKidd clone

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1542 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:58 am

College Stats:
Marshall 8 assists, 36% from 3
Ball 7 assists, 42% from 3

You'd want to be really sure the differences between the players are real beyond the numbers.

Post #1543 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:57 am

I wrote up a post earlier at work but hadn't finished while looking at their college numbers. But the gist was that I am not nearly as good at most of you seem to be at knowing how these guys' abilities will translate to the nba, but Ball is a MUCH higher rated prospect than Marshall was, who played on a stacked team. I had their freshman numbers pulled up and Ball is like 70%+ from 2 and 42% from 3, and 55% or something like that overall...better with assists as a freshman as well, and HE is the reason their team and players are all better and have the #1 offense in my estimation, while Marshall benefitted more greatly from playing with great players and simply getting them the ball.

Having said all that, I am still a bit nervous with all the skepticism and would feel better if we got Fultz, Jackson or Tatum.

It will be a bit entertaining to watch the reaction though if we end up with the #1 pick with a good lotto draw and take Ball over Fultz or Jackson.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1544 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:04 am

Josh Jackson with 2 minutes to go:

15 points, 12 rebounds, 4 steals, 1 assist, 1 block, 4 turnovers, 4/8 two, 2/5 three, 1/3 FT.

Sunsss · Post #1545 » by **Sunsss** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:39 am

First time watching Arizona this season... Trier looks like an NBA player.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1546 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:48 am

Markkanen can't defend a college scrub for the winning basket.

Post #1547 » by **ATTL** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:49 am

Awful.

Post #1548 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:52 am

So watching via laptop whole game...we get up 69-61 and laptop froze and I had to reboot and next time I see it's tied. Unbelievable.

Being a fan of the Suns and Chargers though I expect horrific losses.

DirtyDez · Post #1549 » by **DirtyDez** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:00 am

Miller getting out coached and the 5* recruits getting outworked by 2-3* guys. Pathetic.

RaisingArizona · Post #1550 » by **RaisingArizona** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:08 am

Wow. Hell of a comeback by X. 1/2 on my upset picks tonight.

MrMiyagi · Post #1551 » by **MrMiyagi** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:44 am

Sean Miller needs to overhaul his offensive scheme against the zone. Every year it kills us and every year we don't fix it.

LukasBMW · Post #1552 » by **LukasBMW** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:18 am

At this point I'd be happy with Fultz, Ball, or Jackson. All 3 look special.

DirtyDez · Post #1553 » by **DirtyDez** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:29 am

MrMiyagi wrote:Sean Miller needs to overhaul his offensive scheme against the zone. Every year it kills us and every year we don't fix it.

Lauri took his last shot with something like 11 min left. Ridiculous.

I know Trier shot us back in it but I'm sick of handing it off for 20 seconds and going hero ball. Miller better change something cause we know he can't recruit a PG.

Post #1554 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:03 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
Villalobos wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:I wonder how set the FO are about trading Bledsoe if we pick a PG.

Their history suggests they don't mind having 3-4 guys compete and figure it out later.

Can you imagine how annoying LaVar Ball would be if Lonzo played behind Bledsoe for a year? Dude would never shut up.

Not that I'm a fan of Ball regardless but having LaVar snaking his way onto the team somehow is one thing I want to avoid.

I can't stand the guy. Someone please educate me on this LaVar Ball character. Who is LaVar Ball?

Watch on YouTube

MrMiyagi · Post #1555 » by **MrMiyagi** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:31 am

bwgood77 wrote:

Watch on YouTube

I bet that's the worst 20 minutes of television ever recorded on ESPN.

I wish more people had SVP's attitude toward Papa Ball

Watch on YouTube

sunsbum · Post #1556 » by **sunsbum** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:30 am

This is obviously just my opinion but people that are comparing Marshall and Ball are reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally clueless. Like, It almost makes me think half of you weren't around when Kbutter (lol) played. They're nothing alike besides being pass first PGs. Kendall was a slow footed scrub that couldnt shoot and everyone knew it. Ball has some holes in his game but athletically its night and day. And thats saying something because ball isn't super athletic.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1557 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:38 am

I watched 8 minutes of that and would rather suck than have to listen to Lavar Ball for 15 years.

Bring on Fultz.

blacksun · Post #1558 » by **blacksun** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:31 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:I watched 8 minutes of that and would rather suck than have to listen to Lavar Ball for 15 years.

Bring on Fultz.

This. Fultz/Jackson/Smith and maybe Isaac, Tatum and Ntilikina before Ball for me. I want no part of Lavar Ball. On top of that, I really dont think Lonzo is going to be effective in the NBA. He will be limited to a catch and shoot player on offense if he doesnt have the ball. And you cant rely on him to create points by himself. We have seen this before in Nash that if you rely on one guy to move the ball, good teams can lock on him and in effect, shut your offense down. I really hope we dont draft him.

kennydorglas · Post #1559 » by **kennydorglas** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:37 pm

Lauri passed up a lot of good shots last night.

Post #1560 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:43 pm

kennydorglas wrote:Lauri passed up a lot of good shots last night.

He didn't even seem to hang around the 3 pt line as much in the 2nd half, but maybe he got discouraged after starting 1-6. Disappointing though.

If we have the 1st or 2nd pick, and take Ball, how will you feel