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Re: Our handling of Richaun Holmes has been a travesty 

Post#121 » by 76ciology » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:31 am

76ciology wrote:Holmes is good in limited minutes. Play him with major minutes and his flaws will rise, such as poor rebounding. He ain't even dominant in SL. But I can clearly see how positive his on court impact is, I even mentioned that I see him as a vital piece alongside Biid IF he can have a more consistent jumper.



You saw it tonight against the Bulls. Team was 131DRtg when Nerlens was off court.
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Re: Our handling of Richaun Holmes has been a travesty 

Post#122 » by LloydFree » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:59 pm

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76ciology wrote:Holmes is good in limited minutes. Play him with major minutes and his flaws will rise, such as poor rebounding. He ain't even dominant in SL. But I can clearly see how positive his on court impact is, I even mentioned that I see him as a vital piece alongside Biid IF he can have a more consistent jumper.



You saw it tonight against the Bulls. Team was 131DRtg when Nerlens was off court.

That's not his fault. I blame the coach and the guards for his defense...
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Re: Our handling of Richaun Holmes has been a travesty 

Post#123 » by 76ciology » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:03 pm

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76ciology wrote:Holmes is good in limited minutes. Play him with major minutes and his flaws will rise, such as poor rebounding. He ain't even dominant in SL. But I can clearly see how positive his on court impact is, I even mentioned that I see him as a vital piece alongside Biid IF he can have a more consistent jumper.



You saw it tonight against the Bulls. Team was 131DRtg when Nerlens was off court.

That's not his fault. I blame the coach and the guards for his defense...


There's some legs to it.

Nerlens has bad oncourt DRtg and one of the worst NetRtg when he plays backup to Embiid.
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Re: Our handling of Richaun Holmes has been a travesty 

Post#124 » by XDevilBoiX » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:14 pm

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76ciology wrote:Holmes is good in limited minutes. Play him with major minutes and his flaws will rise, such as poor rebounding. He ain't even dominant in SL. But I can clearly see how positive his on court impact is, I even mentioned that I see him as a vital piece alongside Biid IF he can have a more consistent jumper.



You saw it tonight against the Bulls. Team was 131DRtg when Nerlens was off court.

That's not his fault. I blame the coach and the guards for his defense...

We should trade them before our they make Holmes value plummet like Okafor and Noel.
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Post#125 » by HotelVitale » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:03 pm

Love Holmes and think he's the funnest Sixers to watch after Embiid, but we Sixers fans might have forgotten what a real NBA rotation looks like. Holmes has looked like he deserves a spot in the NBA, but there's a difference between that and being one of the best 20 or so centers on the planet. Holmes has some real flaws and more importantly he now looks like a good not great player; I'd say that him getting 16mpg as a 2nd year player is a good scenario for him, nothing we have to feel bad about.

For comparison's sake, look at someone like Brandan Wright: he's an excellent finisher who also blocks shots and everywhere he's gone he's posted good to great advanced stats--he's very productive and he's a legit wizard around the hoop and on the roll. He's also never averaged more than 19mpg in his 9-year career because he's pretty skinny and doesn't play like a real center and isn't the best option for a full-time anchor. So he ends up being what he is: a nice back-up who can come in and kill it some nights for 25mpg and other nights play a decent 10-12mpg while the starter gets some rest. He's productive when gets time, but good teams prefer to find someone else to be their full-time answer.
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Re: Welcome Richaun Holmes 

Post#126 » by Ericb5 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:15 pm

HotelVitale wrote:Love Holmes and think he's the funnest Sixers to watch after Embiid, but we Sixers fans might have forgotten what a real NBA rotation looks like. Holmes has looked like he deserves a spot in the NBA, but there's a difference between that and being one of the best 20 or so centers on the planet. Holmes has some real flaws and more importantly he now looks like a good not great player; I'd say that him getting 16mpg as a 2nd year player is a good scenario for him, nothing we have to feel bad about.

For comparison's sake, look at someone like Brandan Wright: he's an excellent finisher who also blocks shots and everywhere he's gone he's posted good to great advanced stats--he's very productive and he's a legit wizard around the hoop and on the roll. He's also never averaged more than 19mpg in his 9-year career because he's pretty skinny and doesn't play like a real center and isn't the best option for a full-time anchor. So he ends up being what he is: a nice back-up who can come in and kill it some nights for 25mpg and other nights play a decent 10-12mpg while the starter gets some rest. He's productive when gets time, but good teams prefer to find someone else to be their full-time answer.


I don't even think that Holmes is even a GOOD player. I think that he is basically what he will always be.

He is undersized. I mean he is probably like 6'7 or 6'8, but he is a center. I disagree with the folks who think that he can play the 4.

He is a poor rebounder, and has no offensive skill. He can hit a wide open 3 every once in a while, but he isn't good enough to justify him being on the court to space the floor.

He is aggressive and can dunk the ball and block some shots. I'm not saying that he doesn't deserve to be in the league, but I don't think he will ever deserve 20 mpg.

If he and Embiid were the only centers on the roster I would argue that we would need to find another to supplement them because he can be relied on to cover for Embiid when he is out.




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Re: Welcome Richaun Holmes 

Post#127 » by Covington_33 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:39 am

March : in 24mins per game 62% FG - 45% 3pts FG 13pts/6rbds

This guy that nobody cared about until the Noel trade is turning out to be a NBA player. Guess what this dude is a hard worker you can see that pretty easyly and he took his opportunity. I just wanted to congrats him on his current form and regularity : 8 games in March, 7 double digits game in scoring

With his work ethic I'm pretty sure this guy is going to be a NBA player for the next years and PS : I thought he was just not good enough, like everyone else but I say it now I was wrong.
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Post#128 » by JojoSlimbiid » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:41 am

Like everyone else? It's been the opposite a lot of people knew Richaun can ball and that it was a shame he wasn't getting run because of the logjam.
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Re: Welcome Richaun Holmes 

Post#129 » by Ericb5 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:28 pm

Covington_33 wrote:March : in 24mins per game 62% FG - 45% 3pts FG 13pts/6rbds

This guy that nobody cared about until the Noel trade is turning out to be a NBA player. Guess what this dude is a hard worker you can see that pretty easyly and he took his opportunity. I just wanted to congrats him on his current form and regularity : 8 games in March, 7 double digits game in scoring

With his work ethic I'm pretty sure this guy is going to be a NBA player for the next years and PS : I thought he was just not good enough, like everyone else but I say it now I was wrong.


I don't think I have ever read anyone on this board say that he isn't an nba player. The question is how good of an nba player can he become?
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Post#130 » by 76ciology » Sun Apr 2, 2017 4:17 pm

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Post#131 » by Unbreakable99 » Sun Apr 2, 2017 4:21 pm

As far as backups go Holmes is about as good as you can ask to be a backup center. I think he can excel playing 15 minutes per game assuming Embiid can ever play 33 minutes.
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Re: Welcome Richaun Holmes 

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Post#133 » by TTP » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:52 pm

As expected. If we need to move him, we should easily be able to do so for positive value.
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Post#134 » by ivysixer2000 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:23 pm

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Be nice if we exercised the option to actually put him in the game.
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Post#135 » by Ericb5 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:01 pm

TTP wrote:As expected. If we need to move him, we should easily be able to do so for positive value.


Agreed. He is worth more to us as a player or a trade asset than his salary would save us by cutting him.


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Post#136 » by BullyKing » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:11 pm

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TTP wrote:As expected. If we need to move him, we should easily be able to do so for positive value.


Agreed. He is worth more to us as a player or a trade asset than his salary would save us by cutting him.


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It's non-guaranteed anyway so it's not like we committed to anything.
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Post#137 » by Ericb5 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:13 pm

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TTP wrote:As expected. If we need to move him, we should easily be able to do so for positive value.


Agreed. He is worth more to us as a player or a trade asset than his salary would save us by cutting him.


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It's non-guaranteed anyway so it's not like we committed to anything.


Didn’t know that. Even better.


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Post#138 » by BullyKing » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:14 pm

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Agreed. He is worth more to us as a player or a trade asset than his salary would save us by cutting him.


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It's non-guaranteed anyway so it's not like we committed to anything.


Didn’t know that. Even better.


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Yes it was pretty much a no brainer to exercise the option. That said, I had concerns over whether BC would or not as "no brainer" is not necessarily a hurdle he clears with regularity.
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Post#139 » by hookshot199 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:56 pm

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It's non-guaranteed anyway so it's not like we committed to anything.


Didn’t know that. Even better.


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Yes it was pretty much a no brainer to exercise the option. That said, I had concerns over whether BC would or not as "no brainer" is not necessarily a hurdle he clears with regularity.


BC=who?
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Post#140 » by 76thBearCub » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:07 pm

TJ and Holmes are incredible bench pieces for 1.6 each.

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