2017 OKC Thunder Trade Discussion

[Pillendreher]

The biggest thing I noted was that Oladipo may not be here in the future. He also reminded delusional fans that the other franchises are not farm teams for the thunder so don't ask about Butler and George.

That I absolutely hate. We're really gonna dump Dipo and restart the SG-Cycle. Yikes.

[ThunderBolt]

The biggest thing I noted was that Oladipo may not be here in the future. He also reminded delusional fans that the other franchises are not farm teams for the thunder so don't ask about Butler and George.

That I absolutely hate. We're really gonna dump Dipo and restart the SG-Cycle. Yikes.

If they got someone like porter and Abrines learned how to play defense, I would be ok with it. I agree though, I think Adams and Kanter should be moved first.

[Pillendreher]

The biggest thing I noted was that Oladipo may not be here in the future. He also reminded delusional fans that the other franchises are not farm teams for the thunder so don't ask about Butler and George.

That I absolutely hate. We're really gonna dump Dipo and restart the SG-Cycle. Yikes.

If they got someone like porter and Abrines learned how to play defense, I would be ok with it. I agree though, I think Adams and Kanter should be moved first.

I don't see any way we get better by trading Dipo. Porter is worse than Dipo.

[spearsy23]

That I absolutely hate. We're really gonna dump Dipo and restart the SG-Cycle. Yikes.

If they got someone like porter and Abrines learned how to play defense, I would be ok with it. I agree though, I think Adams and Kanter should be moved first.

I don't see any way we get better by trading Dipo. Porter is worse than Dipo.

I don't see any way possible to believe vic is better, and even if I did, Porter is definitely the better fit next to Russ. It may not be a championship formula, but a Russ/Abrines/Porter/stretch 4/Steven team playing like the Rockets would be hella fun to watch. Have Dre, Doug, Sabonis, Enes and a good backup pg off the bench and we could score a million points per game. Also give up a million, but it would be entertaining.

[retrobro90]

That I absolutely hate. We're really gonna dump Dipo and restart the SG-Cycle. Yikes.

If they got someone like porter and Abrines learned how to play defense, I would be ok with it. I agree though, I think Adams and Kanter should be moved first.

I don't see any way we get better by trading Dipo. Porter is worse than Dipo.

Agreed. Dipo is still improving. This is his first year with our franchise and he's done a great job especially considering how much time he's had to miss. He integrated pretty seamlessly with our roster all things considered and I think he'll only get better. Besides that I have no clue why anyone would think KCP or Porter would be good FA candidates that put us into contention. Both are fine players but clearly both are going to be max overpays this offseason and we have 0 cap room. And if we did theres no way those are the guys we pursue.

Katz brought up a good point on the DTD podcast earlier this week. Pretty much every single contract in the NBA outside of the amazing deals a la Crowder/IT/Steph etc etc are going to be overpays on the front end or back end of the contract. When it comes to that choice you always look to pay up front as opposed to overpaying a guy on the back end of his deal when he's no longer contributing what he's earning. At least with Adams and Dipo they are both young and will be in their primes throughout the remainder of their current contract.

(It's also why I'm not head over heels in love with signing Taj for long term money. He's been awesome for us no doubt but that money could be spent elsewhere. We'll have to see how it shakes out but I'm not crazy about paying 35 year old Taj 15mil per)

[Andre Roberstan]

The biggest thing I noted was that Oladipo may not be here in the future. He also reminded delusional fans that the other franchises are not farm teams for the thunder so don't ask about Butler and George.

This is the part where I tell people "I told you so"

[Pillendreher]

The biggest thing I noted was that Oladipo may not be here in the future. He also reminded delusional fans that the other franchises are not farm teams for the thunder so don't ask about Butler and George.

This is the part where I tell people "I told you so"

Well most of us already knew Presti to be a fool, so...

[bondom34]

Still on the fiur Presti wagon I see.

[Pillendreher]

Still on the fiur Presti wagon I see.

Of course. What should have changed my mind?

[bondom34]

Still on the fiur Presti wagon I see.

Of course. What should have changed my mind?

Trade deadline, but really it shouldn't have ever been there.

[Pillendreher]

If they got someone like porter and Abrines learned how to play defense, I would be ok with it. I agree though, I think Adams and Kanter should be moved first.

I don't see any way we get better by trading Dipo. Porter is worse than Dipo.

I don't see any way possible to believe vic is better, and even if I did, Porter is definitely the better fit next to Russ. It may not be a championship formula, but a Russ/Abrines/Porter/stretch 4/Steven team playing like the Rockets would be hella fun to watch. Have Dre, Doug, Sabonis, Enes and a good backup pg off the bench and we could score a million points per game. Also give up a million, but it would be entertaining.

Abrines is nowhere close to matching DIpo's impact. And the Otto Porter bandwaggon is close to derailing. There's a reason why Wizards fans are slowly turning on him. His ceiling is being an efficient 3&D guy. He'll never be a scorer. We can't take another scoring option away from Russ and go 'Well, this will surely work'.

This team's calling card is defense. It has to be. Dipo is a big time contributor to that. And he's also the only guy who can create off the dribble next to Russ.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong: I would love Porter on this team. But next to Dipo, not instead of us. That would only make us worse.

[bondom34]

I don't see any way we get better by trading Dipo. Porter is worse than Dipo.

I don't see any way possible to believe vic is better, and even if I did, Porter is definitely the better fit next to Russ. It may not be a championship formula, but a Russ/Abrines/Porter/stretch 4/Steven team playing like the Rockets would be hella fun to watch. Have Dre, Doug, Sabonis, Enes and a good backup pg off the bench and we could score a million points per game. Also give up a million, but it would be entertaining.

Abrines is nowhere close to matching DIpo's impact. And the Otto Porter bandwaggon is close to derailing. There's a reason why Wizards fans are slowly turning on him. His ceiling is being an efficient 3&D guy. He'll never be a scorer. We can't take another scoring option away from Russ and go 'Well, this will surely work'.

This team's calling card is defense. It has to be. Dipo is a big time contributor to that. And he's also the only guy who can create off the dribble next to Russ.

Yeah I'm with you here. Vic's been solid to me, I'm more bummed about Adams but I think he's still just...I don't even know.

[Pillendreher]

Still on the fiur Presti wagon I see.

Of course. What should have changed my mind?

Trade deadline, but really it shouldn't have ever been there.

So you're telling me his whole body of work shouldn't matter because he managed to fool one of the worst FOs there is? The trade was good. Why should it outweigh years of bad performance?

[bondom34]

Of course. What should have changed my mind?

Trade deadline, but really it shouldn't have ever been there.

So you're telling me his whole body of work shouldn't matter because he managed to fool one of the worst FOs there is? The trade was good. Why should it outweigh years of bad performance?

I'd disagree on the entire assessment. His big fault was apparently he built around the wrong star and got cupcaked.

[Pillendreher]

Trade deadline, but really it shouldn't have ever been there.

So you're telling me his whole body of work shouldn't matter because he managed to fool one of the worst FOs there is? The trade was good. Why should it outweigh years of bad performance?

I'd disagree on the entire assessment. His big fault was apparently he built around the wrong star and got cupcaked.

Let's not go down this road again. We've both said our respective pieces months ago Maybe he'll surprise me and fool Thibs into doing Dipo + our pick for Lavine and their pick. I wouldn't put it by him. It's totally possible for Presti to make some terrible move, but also possbile for him to fleece somebody.

[bondom34]

So you're telling me his whole body of work shouldn't matter because he managed to fool one of the worst FOs there is? The trade was good. Why should it outweigh years of bad performance?

I'd disagree on the entire assessment. His big fault was apparently he built around the wrong star and got cupcaked.

Let's not go down this road again. We've both said our respective pieces months ago Maybe he'll surprise me and fool Thibs into doing Dipo + our pick for Lavine and their pick. I wouldn't put it by him. It's totally possible for Presti to make some terrible move, but also possbile for him to fleece somebody.

I love the wave!

[ThunderBolt]

I don't see any way we get better by trading Dipo. Porter is worse than Dipo.

I don't see any way possible to believe vic is better, and even if I did, Porter is definitely the better fit next to Russ. It may not be a championship formula, but a Russ/Abrines/Porter/stretch 4/Steven team playing like the Rockets would be hella fun to watch. Have Dre, Doug, Sabonis, Enes and a good backup pg off the bench and we could score a million points per game. Also give up a million, but it would be entertaining.

Abrines is nowhere close to matching DIpo's impact. And the Otto Porter bandwaggon is close to derailing. There's a reason why Wizards fans are slowly turning on him. His ceiling is being an efficient 3&D guy. He'll never be a scorer. We can't take another scoring option away from Russ and go 'Well, this will surely work'.

This team's calling card is defense. It has to be. Dipo is a big time contributor to that. And he's also the only guy who can create off the dribble next to Russ.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong: I would love Porter on this team. But next to Dipo, not instead of us. That would only make us worse.

It doesn't sound like that's possible because they want to keep Adams. So if he's right we better hope that sabonis or Abrines get a lot better or start finding satisfaction in the 6-8 seed range.

[ThunderBolt]

So you're telling me his whole body of work shouldn't matter because he managed to fool one of the worst FOs there is? The trade was good. Why should it outweigh years of bad performance?

I'd disagree on the entire assessment. His big fault was apparently he built around the wrong star and got cupcaked.

Let's not go down this road again. We've both said our respective pieces months ago Maybe he'll surprise me and fool Thibs into doing Dipo + our pick for Lavine and their pick. I wouldn't put it by him. It's totally possible for Presti to make some terrible move, but also possbile for him to fleece somebody.

Lavine is going to miss a good chunk of next year so that wouldn't be a great trade for next year. Unless of course we trade Kyle singler for Paul George and lavine is just the icing on the cake.

[Kizz Fastfists]

If Lavine played any defense at all I could see an argument for trading Dipo for him to free up some cap space to keep Taj and Roberson. The problem is Lavine plays no D and I'd never want to see the disaster of Lavine and Kanter playing together. Lavine probably gets an undervalued contract next off-season due to the injury.

[ThunderBolt]

If Lavine played any defense at all I could see an argument for trading Dipo for him to free up some cap space to keep Taj and Roberson. The problem is Lavine plays no D and I'd never want to see the disaster of Lavine and Kanter playing together. Lavine probably gets an undervalued contract next off-season due to the injury.

Maybe get rid of Kanter too and that solves that issue.