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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#201 » by King Malta » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:55 pm

theGreatRC wrote:Maybe I just don't see him enough, but I don't get the love for Gordon.


Same, dude only starting getting love after that dunk contest. Overrated IMO
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#202 » by Krapinsky » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:06 am

*If* the Lakers get the #3 pick and both Ball and Fultz are off the board.

Lakers #3 + Deng

Minnesota #7 + Capspace.

Wolves select Jackson. Lakers draft Monk (I'd guess).
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Post#203 » by TheDominator273 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:22 am

rugbyrugger23 wrote:From trade board. What about...

Dunn + LaVine

For

Josh Jackson (assuming their pick, so if Jackson not your liking, other?) + Value

Value= Covington (small ball 4?) or Oak (can Thibs teach him D?) and/or TLC

Wolves get a defensive SF next to Wiggins...and with their pick draft BPA (but probably a PFOF). Also means Thibs would have 2 rookies on staff, so....

Philly of all teams shouldn't discount LaVine much (injury), and they really liked Dunn at 2016 draft time, and they both seemingly are perfect backcourt duo with Simmons.

Would much rather do Dunn and our pick for Philly's pick and Covington. I wouldn't be in any hurry to trade LaVine right now as his value is low due to the injury. I think he will come back well from the injury even if he loses some of his vertical explosiveness. Let him return to form and if we can't carve out a role for him with Wiggins then we move one closer to the deadline next season
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Post#204 » by theGreatRC » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:26 am

lbj273 wrote:
rugbyrugger23 wrote:From trade board. What about...

Dunn + LaVine

For

Josh Jackson (assuming their pick, so if Jackson not your liking, other?) + Value

Value= Covington (small ball 4?) or Oak (can Thibs teach him D?) and/or TLC

Wolves get a defensive SF next to Wiggins...and with their pick draft BPA (but probably a PFOF). Also means Thibs would have 2 rookies on staff, so....

Philly of all teams shouldn't discount LaVine much (injury), and they really liked Dunn at 2016 draft time, and they both seemingly are perfect backcourt duo with Simmons.

Would much rather do Dunn and our pick for Philly's pick and Covington. I wouldn't be in any hurry to trade LaVine right now as his value is low due to the injury. I think he will come back well from the injury even if he loses some of his vertical explosiveness. Let him return to form and if we can't carve out a role for him with Wiggins then we move one closer to the deadline next season


I'd do that and run
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#205 » by Wingman » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:28 am

I'd keep Dunn, his value is very low right now. I don't think we could get our hands on Jackson unless we get lucky in the lottery, I'd take him over Ball in a heartbeat
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#206 » by rugbyrugger23 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:20 am

theGreatRC wrote:
lbj273 wrote:
rugbyrugger23 wrote:From trade board. What about...

Dunn + LaVine

For

Josh Jackson (assuming their pick, so if Jackson not your liking, other?) + Value

Value= Covington (small ball 4?) or Oak (can Thibs teach him D?) and/or TLC

Wolves get a defensive SF next to Wiggins...and with their pick draft BPA (but probably a PFOF). Also means Thibs would have 2 rookies on staff, so....

Philly of all teams shouldn't discount LaVine much (injury), and they really liked Dunn at 2016 draft time, and they both seemingly are perfect backcourt duo with Simmons.

Would much rather do Dunn and our pick for Philly's pick and Covington. I wouldn't be in any hurry to trade LaVine right now as his value is low due to the injury. I think he will come back well from the injury even if he loses some of his vertical explosiveness. Let him return to form and if we can't carve out a role for him with Wiggins then we move one closer to the deadline next season


I'd do that and run

I would too.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#207 » by DDaybe » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:46 am

Klomp wrote:Wiggins for Butler: who says no?

I know the general feeling is that Wiggins is untouchable, but I wonder if Thibs is starting to get fed up with his defense. He's started to make vague comments about it, so at what point does he say enough is enough?

This trade would actually be interesting. I'm not sure our roster is ready enough to make their playoff push at the moment, maybe give them a year or two
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#208 » by DDaybe » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:49 am

What do you think is the situation with Kris Dunn? Should we move him right now while he still has a good amount of value or should we wait a few years to see how he turns out?
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Post#209 » by GimmeDat » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:09 am

This is my cross-posting from an idea on the trade board I came up with -

Dunn for Stanley Johnson + 12.

Draft Isaac and J.Allen.

Rubio (33) / Jones (15)
LaVine (35) / Wiggins (13)
Wiggins (23) / Johnson (19) / Isaac (6)
KAT (25) / Isaac (15) / Casspi (8)
Dieng (30) / KAT (10) / J.Allen (8)

A lot of positional versatility, and lots of ability to cover for or make room for the rooks depending on how they progress. They remain super young as well - no forfeiting assets for win-now players that may or may not work out.


Imo, I would move early with Dunn.. I do love what he brings to the table, but when you can address so many points of need whilst freeing Tyus up for more minutes, I think it's the right move. If Dunn's been more effective at SG lately, even more reason to move him - no room in the rotation with Wiggins and LaVine both ideally at SG (if you intend to keep both).

Referencing this particular trade idea, I think Johnson is a great addition - perfect Thibs character kid, he's a dog, and imo he just needs a change of scenery.. he had a great rookie year. Isaac is who I think you should take at 7 regardless of any trades.. perfect fit if you want to run with KAT at the 5 and go small - he'll stretch the floor, run with the rest of your athletes, and be a versatile defender at the 4. If you want to go big, J.Allen is the shotblocker that can shift KAT to the 4.

Lots of defensive upside, frees up Jones, provides an SF replacement for Shabazz that can help push Wiggins down to SG a bit more, provides options run lineups with KAT at the 4 and 5, and gives you multiple young, high upside guys to continue to grow with.

Thoughts?
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#210 » by SaintS » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:44 am

Agreed on this

Dunn + LaVine

For

Josh Jackson (assuming their pick, so if Jackson not your liking, other?) + Value

Especially if Wolves can keep their own 1-st round pick (6) and can take Monk or Smith.
Will be a good balanced rotation and solve Wiggins - Lavine problem.

More cap flexibility in future.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#211 » by Grits n Gravy » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:56 pm

GimmeDat wrote:This is my cross-posting from an idea on the trade board I came up with -

Dunn for Stanley Johnson + 12.

Draft Isaac and J.Allen.

Rubio (33) / Jones (15)
LaVine (35) / Wiggins (13)
Wiggins (23) / Johnson (19) / Isaac (6)
KAT (25) / Isaac (15) / Casspi (8)
Dieng (30) / KAT (10) / J.Allen (8)

A lot of positional versatility, and lots of ability to cover for or make room for the rooks depending on how they progress. They remain super young as well - no forfeiting assets for win-now players that may or may not work out.


Imo, I would move early with Dunn.. I do love what he brings to the table, but when you can address so many points of need whilst freeing Tyus up for more minutes, I think it's the right move. If Dunn's been more effective at SG lately, even more reason to move him - no room in the rotation with Wiggins and LaVine both ideally at SG (if you intend to keep both).

Referencing this particular trade idea, I think Johnson is a great addition - perfect Thibs character kid, he's a dog, and imo he just needs a change of scenery.. he had a great rookie year. Isaac is who I think you should take at 7 regardless of any trades.. perfect fit if you want to run with KAT at the 5 and go small - he'll stretch the floor, run with the rest of your athletes, and be a versatile defender at the 4. If you want to go big, J.Allen is the shotblocker that can shift KAT to the 4.

Lots of defensive upside, frees up Jones, provides an SF replacement for Shabazz that can help push Wiggins down to SG a bit more, provides options run lineups with KAT at the 4 and 5, and gives you multiple young, high upside guys to continue to grow with.

Thoughts?

I'd be SO down with that - Detroit might do it too as SVG doesn't appear to like Jackson and Ish Smith is a bit of a journeyman.
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Post#212 » by rugbyrugger23 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:49 pm

Another try at Maker...

To Bucks: Favors + Dunn + Aldrich

To Jazz: Tele + Vaughn + #17

To Wolves: Maker + Burks + #30

Bucks take the chance (vs. Wolves) on expiring Favors as ideal proven defensive big. Dunn can work in to rotation at PG and SG with Brogdon. *Bucks can afford Favors being Monroe and Hawes (being opt in for 17/18) and Aldrich clear books before his new contract is needed.

Jazz get a locked in (much cheaper vs. a re-signed Favors) vet stretch 4 in Tele, and a couple rookie contracts (assuming Hayward re-signs). I see this is similar to Ibaka package.

Wolves get Maker for Dunn, and taking a flyer on overpriced Burks (who if a LaVine-Wiggins blockbuster trade is ever made would be nice bench SG insurance). At #6/7 draft SFOF, ideally Isaac.

C: Towns | Maker | Dieng | Vet Bigman
F: Maker | Towns | Bjelica | Issac
F: Wiggins | Issac | Vet 3D
G: LaVine | Wiggins | Burks--can play some PG
G: Rubio | Jones | Vet G
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Post#213 » by the_bruce » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:47 pm

Faried + 14 for 6 + Aldrich. I'm all about drafting Anunoby.

Towns/Dieng
Faried/Bjelica
Wiggins/Anunoby
Lavine/Dunn
Rubio/Tyus

Leaves enough $$ to make a max offer to Gordon Hayward and pray he accepts. Though I'd bet he ends up back home in indy.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#214 » by Klomp » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:25 pm

the_bruce wrote:Faried + 14 for 6 + Aldrich. I'm all about drafting Anunoby.

Towns/Dieng
Faried/Bjelica
Wiggins/Anunoby
Lavine/Dunn
Rubio/Tyus

Leaves enough $$ to make a max offer to Gordon Hayward and pray he accepts. Though I'd bet he ends up back home in indy.

I don't get moves like this. If you want a player just draft him where you're at. I don't see a big enough improvement from Aldrich to Faried to merit a move like this.
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Post#215 » by Krapinsky » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:58 pm

the_bruce wrote:Faried + 14 for 6 + Aldrich. I'm all about drafting Anunoby.

Towns/Dieng
Faried/Bjelica
Wiggins/Anunoby
Lavine/Dunn
Rubio/Tyus

Leaves enough $$ to make a max offer to Gordon Hayward and pray he accepts. Though I'd bet he ends up back home in indy.


I used to like Faried a lot, but in the modern NBA he is no more than an energy big off the bench for any good team. He's the anti-Draymond. Not great defensively, can't pass, and can't shoot. He'd be a big downgrade from just leaving Dieng in the starting lineup IMO.
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Post#216 » by C.lupus » Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:09 am

Faried is a bad fit on a team with one of the worst defenses in the NBA. Not at all what we need.
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Post#217 » by minimus » Fri Apr 14, 2017 5:00 am

C.lupus wrote:Faried is a bad fit on a team with one of the worst defenses in the NBA. Not at all what we need.

If he is bad fit with high tempo run-and-gun team DEN. with best С passer in Jokic, I wonder how he would look with our system. I suppose he would be awful.

What if
Payne, Aldrich for Evan Turner and #18 pick. Not sure if we can unload Pek contract as well. Draft long-term projects Isaiah Hartenstein, OG or Jarrett Allen.
We replace Shabazz who can't pass, defend and shoot with Turner who is decent passer and defender. Still wont solve our shooting problems tho'. But maybe LaVine, Jones, Bjelica shooting will be enough for 2nd unit. At least they should be able to provide some ball movement in offense.

KAT/Dieng
FA/Bjelica/OG
Wiggins/Turner/OG
Dunn/LaVine/Wiggins
Rubio/Jones/Dunn
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Post#218 » by SaintS » Fri Apr 14, 2017 6:43 am

minimus wrote:
C.lupus wrote:Faried is a bad fit on a team with one of the worst defenses in the NBA. Not at all what we need.

If he is bad fit with high tempo run-and-gun team DEN. with best С passer in Jokic, I wonder how he would look with our system. I suppose he would be awful.

What if
Payne, Aldrich for Evan Turner and #18 pick. Not sure if we can unload Pek contract as well. Draft long-term projects Isaiah Hartenstein, OG or Jarrett Allen.
We replace Shabazz who can't pass, defend and shoot with Turner who is decent passer and defender. Still wont solve our shooting problems tho'. But maybe LaVine, Jones, Bjelica shooting will be enough for 2nd unit. At least they should be able to provide some ball movement in offense.

KAT/Dieng
FA/Bjelica/OG
Wiggins/Turner/OG
Dunn/LaVine/Wiggins
Rubio/Jones/Dunn


On FA market can be much more cheaper and better options. (Taker, Ingles)

In this way will be better to take Caroll from Raps shorter contract better fit for the team.
If all because of the OG, it's not the price (Turner contract) for the prospect at a young team.

For Turners money we can bring Iggy for 2 or 3 years.
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Post#219 » by minimus » Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:15 am

SaintS wrote:
minimus wrote:
C.lupus wrote:Faried is a bad fit on a team with one of the worst defenses in the NBA. Not at all what we need.

If he is bad fit with high tempo run-and-gun team DEN. with best С passer in Jokic, I wonder how he would look with our system. I suppose he would be awful.

What if
Payne, Aldrich for Evan Turner and #18 pick. Not sure if we can unload Pek contract as well. Draft long-term projects Isaiah Hartenstein, OG or Jarrett Allen.
We replace Shabazz who can't pass, defend and shoot with Turner who is decent passer and defender. Still wont solve our shooting problems tho'. But maybe LaVine, Jones, Bjelica shooting will be enough for 2nd unit. At least they should be able to provide some ball movement in offense.

KAT/Dieng
FA/Bjelica/OG
Wiggins/Turner/OG
Dunn/LaVine/Wiggins
Rubio/Jones/Dunn


On FA market can be much more cheaper and better options. (Taker, Ingles)

In this way will be better to take Caroll from Raps shorter contract better fit for the team.
If all because of the OG, it's not the price (Turner contract) for the prospect at a young team.

For Turners money we can bring Iggy for 2 or 3 years.


Iggy wont leave GSW to play for MIN. For Turner's money you can have Tony Snell, Shabazz Muhammad, maybe Tyreke Evans. Otto Porter Jr. will get more.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#220 » by My Main Man » Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:51 pm

Thinking of our defense in the future. Assuming we both stay put in the lottery, what would it take to do a pick swap with Sacramento to get them to add Willie Cauley-Stein?

#6 + ???

for

#8 + WCS

Edit: if we get lucky, Jonathan Isaac is available

Rubio/Dunn/Tyus
Wiggins/Lavine
Isaac (eventually)/Shabbazz
Towns/Bjelly
WCS/Dieng

______
Or we do this and go for OG with the #10 pick

#6 + ???

#10 + WCS


Rubio/Dunn/Tyus
Wiggins/Lavine
Onunoby (eventually)/Shabbazz
Towns/Bjelly
WCS/Dieng

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