Trade Post-Mortem 2017: Eight is Enough

[BRUNiNHO91]

Crowder, Smart, and Zeller for Kevin Love.

If Cleveland would accept that, it would have been done a long time ago. Danny could only dream of something like this.

[ALL HAIL]

Crowder, Smart, and Zeller for Kevin Love.

If Cleveland would accept that, it would have been done a long time ago. Danny could only dream of something like this.

I actually think this improves Cleveland a lot, they need a player like Smart, with an edge, at third guard, and Crowder is a major upgrade defensively over Love, but I suppose some middling picks could be added as sweetener.

[SmartWentCrazy]

he does have positive trade value if you need what he provides. melo is worth 5 draft spots for a team with title contentions and tons of assets. if not your looking at paul george for maybe both picks plus fillers and no picks in return, i dont think melos value is high at all i just think its the best case scenario for both teams. You guys are really willing to gut most your assest to get pg/butler and hope it works out? signing g hayward would be the best option.. but in the event that isnt possible i would seriously consider melo..

it would suck to gut for butler and still not be good enough..

but honestly tho you guys would pass on 2 and fillers for 7 melo oquinn and fillers?

It would suck even more to gut for Melo and get worse. I'm sorry you don't want to believe he has no trade value, but it's the truth. He's declining, he's overpaid, and he's no longer the guy he once was. Your GM is actively trying to trade him for anything and Melo, through his NTC, is actively whittling down his market. There are rumors he's gunna force a buy out. He is no where near a positive.

Yes, we'd pass. We're not trading a top pick for that overpaid jerk.

melo does have value his ntc is the only hiccup and doesnt have to cost you a top pick melo is worth one of jaylen brown pick swap or next year bk pick.. you guys would honestly rather pass up on melo and give up the farm for butler or george? thats really a better scenario? butler/george is going to cost you at least two of this year pick next year pick and brown..

melo could be had for brown, pick swap this year or next year bk pick which might not be that good with a healthy lin and free agency..

maybe you guys really just think melo is that bad lol hes no best player on a championship level player but he could help you guys.

Yes. Emphatically. Like it's not even remotely close.

You're way overvaluing Melo. He won't get near that, certainly not from us.

[Stadium5]

It would suck even more to gut for Melo and get worse. I'm sorry you don't want to believe he has no trade value, but it's the truth. He's declining, he's overpaid, and he's no longer the guy he once was. Your GM is actively trying to trade him for anything and Melo, through his NTC, is actively whittling down his market. There are rumors he's gunna force a buy out. He is no where near a positive.

Yes, we'd pass. We're not trading a top pick for that overpaid jerk.

melo does have value his ntc is the only hiccup and doesnt have to cost you a top pick melo is worth one of jaylen brown pick swap or next year bk pick.. you guys would honestly rather pass up on melo and give up the farm for butler or george? thats really a better scenario? butler/george is going to cost you at least two of this year pick next year pick and brown..

melo could be had for brown, pick swap this year or next year bk pick which might not be that good with a healthy lin and free agency..

maybe you guys really just think melo is that bad lol hes no best player on a championship level player but he could help you guys.

Yes. Emphatically. Like it's not even remotely close.

You're way overvaluing Melo. He won't get near that, certainly not from us.

Melo, even in his prime, I deemed a career loser. I'm not sure I can put my finger on exactly what it is with him...but he's just not an ingredient to a winning basketball team

[jbk1234]

Crowder, Smart, and Zeller for Kevin Love.

If Cleveland would accept that, it would have been done a long time ago. Danny could only dream of something like this.

I actually think this improves Cleveland a lot, they need a player like Smart, with an edge, at third guard, and Crowder is a major upgrade defensively over Love, but I suppose some middling picks could be added as sweetener.

Cavs aren't trading Love to Boston - at least as not as long as LBJ is wearing a Cavs jersey. He'd be a perfect for them. Also, that's a garbage package. Cavs already watched the original Zeller sucks movie. The sequel wasn't any better.

[FlatearthZorro]

I wanted Whiteside last offseason and still think he'd be a great fit on this team. Not sold Miami is building with that team. I think we could get him but we'd have to give a little.

If yuou check my posts, he's been my guys for a while too. Freakishly long with pretty good athletic ability. Danny is not adding a rebounder he'd rather get embarassed by a career 5.5 boards a game in the playoffs(yes BLopez averages 5.5 rb a game for his career).

[bucknersrevenge]

I wanted Whiteside last offseason and still think he'd be a great fit on this team. Not sold Miami is building with that team. I think we could get him but we'd have to give a little.

If yuou check my posts, he's been my guys for a while too. Freakishly long with pretty good athletic ability. Danny is not adding a rebounder he'd rather get embarassed by a career 5.5 boards a game in the playoffs(yes BLopez averages 5.5 rb a game for his career).

I'm sorry but this is the kind of 98.5 talk show argument that has been rebuffed by people with even an inkling of understanding of how to construct a roster. Danny hasn't denied us of anything but the short term benefits of an ill-conceived roster.

[FlatearthZorro]

I wanted Whiteside last offseason and still think he'd be a great fit on this team. Not sold Miami is building with that team. I think we could get him but we'd have to give a little.

If yuou check my posts, he's been my guys for a while too. Freakishly long with pretty good athletic ability. Danny is not adding a rebounder he'd rather get embarassed by a career 5.5 boards a game in the playoffs(yes BLopez averages 5.5 rb a game for his career).

I'm sorry but this is the kind of 98.5 talk show argument that has been rebuffed by people with even an inkling of understanding of how to construct a roster. Danny hasn't denied us of anything but the short term benefits of an ill-conceived roster.

Robin is averaging 6.4 rebounds a game this season. So my point still stands.

[SmartWentCrazy]

If yuou check my posts, he's been my guys for a while too. Freakishly long with pretty good athletic ability. Danny is not adding a rebounder he'd rather get embarassed by a career 5.5 boards a game in the playoffs(yes BLopez averages 5.5 rb a game for his career).

I'm sorry but this is the kind of 98.5 talk show argument that has been rebuffed by people with even an inkling of understanding of how to construct a roster. Danny hasn't denied us of anything but the short term benefits of an ill-conceived roster.

Robin is averaging 6.4 rebounds a game this season. So my point still stands.

Look at his ORB%, he's a fantastic offensive rebounder and doing what he's always done this series.

[bucknersrevenge]

If yuou check my posts, he's been my guys for a while too. Freakishly long with pretty good athletic ability. Danny is not adding a rebounder he'd rather get embarassed by a career 5.5 boards a game in the playoffs(yes BLopez averages 5.5 rb a game for his career).

I'm sorry but this is the kind of 98.5 talk show argument that has been rebuffed by people with even an inkling of understanding of how to construct a roster. Danny hasn't denied us of anything but the short term benefits of an ill-conceived roster.

Robin is averaging 6.4 rebounds a game this season. So my point still stands.

I'm not sure what your point is though. During a year that in the grand scheme of things doesn't matter as much as this coming offseason, as a GM you can't overreact to things like this. You don't burn assets to fix problem "c" when problems "a" and "b" are bigger issues and need to be filled first. That is how you become the Atlanta Hawks or the Memphis Grizzlies.

[Green89]

Paul George seems like he's been very frustrated, but I'm not so sure Bird will ever give into Danny's deals. Time to overpay a little, Danny.

[reload141]

Any PG melts from todays game? Damn he must be fuming right now..

[FlatearthZorro]

Paul George seems like he's been very frustrated, but I'm not so sure Bird will ever give into Danny's deals. Time to overpay a little, Danny.

Problem is Bird seems too stubborn. As I wrote many times I don't know Bird, but he seems like the type of guy who will basically let George go(meaning lose him in FA) in hopes of signing him to a 200$ mil deal.

[FlatearthZorro]

I'm sorry but this is the kind of 98.5 talk show argument that has been rebuffed by people with even an inkling of understanding of how to construct a roster. Danny hasn't denied us of anything but the short term benefits of an ill-conceived roster.

Robin is averaging 6.4 rebounds a game this season. So my point still stands.

I'm not sure what your point is though. During a year that in the grand scheme of things doesn't matter as much as this coming offseason, as a GM you can't overreact to things like this. You don't burn assets to fix problem "c" when problems "a" and "b" are bigger issues and need to be filled first. That is how you become the Atlanta Hawks or the Memphis Grizzlies.

I tell you what brotha. To me if we at least rebound better we make it to the ECF despite our woes on offense in the playoffs.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Paul George seems like he's been very frustrated, but I'm not so sure Bird will ever give into Danny's deals. Time to overpay a little, Danny.

Problem is Bird seems too stubborn. As I wrote many times I don't know Bird, but he seems like the type of guy who will basically let George go(meaning lose him in FA) in hopes of signing him to a 200$ mil deal.

The decision to trade PG will rest in the hands of the owner. If he tells Bird to trade him rather than risk losing him for nothing, he's gone. If he tells Bird to keep him and gamble on the early supermax, he stays.

Their owner is obviously a tremendous business man -- I can't see him taking this risk. Especially if George says he wants out. Losing George for nothing will take years to recover in regards to revenue generated. Getting a top pick and another prospect greatly accelerates the recovery and allows for you to field a fun/competitive team while still generating tremendous revenue.

[Green89]

They tried improving the team a little and rejoining Stephenson with George, in an effort to show they are going to try and get him help. However, George was already calling out Lance for not keeping his cool, so that reunion doesn't seem to help Indy gain any leverage in helping George want to stay.

[Banks2Pierce]

What intrigues me is that All-NBA teams are sort of important to us and there is an awards show on June 26. Fairly late in the game if that is the first anyone officially hears about it and it's also after the draft. It's not one of the categories listed on the official website for it so guessing they might release them sooner rather than later instead.

Melo ship looks like a non-starter to me because of salary matching.

[Celts17Pride]

Danny Ainge is not using the Celtics cap space on Carmelo Anthony. Not happening.

[RR9]

I've been ignorant throughout the season thinking we're good enough with Bradley and Crowder as our wings...but playoffs are showing we're not. I think Smart/Bradley would be great for our backcourt and Bradley should still make sense as an SG starter. Crowder's a 6-man with how he's playing offensively. It's very clear now the difference PG or Butler would have made had we gotten one of them. If it were on the table (maybe not), 2018 BKN 1st + Crowder + Smart +Amir (yuck) for PG and Butler I'd easily do now.

[RR9]

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