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SVG's Recent Comments Show He is Delusional and Needs to Be Canned

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Re: SVG's Recent Comments Show He is Delusional and Needs to Be Canned 

Post#41 » by sfballa13 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:46 am

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sfballa13 wrote:At least we can sign KCP and trade him to another team. And even if he produces like he did this year, we will NOT need to add value.


Tell me, if Allen Crabbe earned $10m more per season when he was already considered overpaid would his contract be considered tradable? Because KCP will earn $27m per year at the max and Crabbe actually shot 44% from the 3pt line this season and had similar stats per 36.

I love how people will blindly try to defend players and the best compliments they come up with is "gives 100% effort", "is a competitor" and "a professional". Players don't deserve to get paid or played if they don't produce plain and simple. Leading by example only works when that player can actually back it up which neither KCP or Morris can claim to do.

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I am not defending anyone, I am stating the facts

If we do not sign KCP we will not be able to replace him with a player half as good, even if he is not worth the max

Therefore, our best option (since we are already capped out) is to sign KCP with hopes we can move him down the line

What would we do if we let KCP walk? Again no one can answer this question. Everyone says NOT to re-sign KCP and i was in that party until i looked at our cap sheet and realized it was our only option

Someone please give me an idea. Are we going to tank with a fully capped out roster?

Are we going to replace KCP with a rookie? with Bullock? with a MLE signing?

And again you keep talking about Morris being such a terrible player. He outplayed Leuer who is making 3x as much. Id say that is a pretty big accomplishment in our garbage dump of a season. yet everyone hates on Mook 24/7, it's really quite pathetic

If i was on the Pistons I would love to have Mook on the team, and from all the games I went to and from all that ive seen at those games, it seems like 90% of our roster really loves the guy.

So his teammates like him, he is the lowest paid player on the roster except for Ellenson and Stanley, and he puts up decent stats while playing nearly every game of the season (79 games, 33 minutes a game)

If we have a better option than Mook at PF let me know. Seems to me like unless we win the lottery we have absolutely no chance of acquiring a solid PF.

What people are failing to understand is Gores is not going to hit the reset button at least for another 2 years. He already shelled out all that money and he will continue to do it since he already is knee deep with Reggie/Dre/Tobias all signed to big deals. Meanwhile Leuer and Boban are making 20M a year for the next 3 seasons. If anything one or both of them need to be traded (using your logic) since they didnt contribute last season even if it was SVG's fault that Boban didnt play.

But yeh we should trade Mook because he is SOOOO bad and KCP we should let him walk for nothing and tank. Oh wait that's right we have a maxed out PG and C, unless we sit them for 80% of the games we cant tank.

So since we cant tank, we might as well re-sign KCP and retain our asset for feature trades. This isnt a case of not signing Monroe when he clearly didnt want to be here and made that obvious many times in the media.

When someone gives me tangible evidence that trading Mook and letting KCP walk is better for our franchise, then ill stop posting.

Maybe we can package Leuer, Stanley, and Boban for a quality PF and then move Mook to the bench. Or is Mook at 4M still too expensive to be coming off the bench?? His deal is 1M more than Stanley Johnsons rookie deal but he is such a detriment to our team and cap space.

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Re: RE: Re: SVG's Recent Comments Show He is Delusional and Needs to Be Canned 

Post#42 » by Pharaoh » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:23 am

davidvolumes wrote:Good post bill. It's a product of coaching to put players in position that plays to their strengths.

And due to our starting PG being unwilling to give up the rock other dudes get pushed into situations that aren't their strengths...

So as a Coach what do you do David?

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Post#43 » by El Chivo » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:29 am

Pharaoh wrote:And due to our starting PG being unwilling to give up the rock other dudes get pushed into situations that aren't their strengths...

So as a Coach what do you do David?


don't rush his coming-back, for example.
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Post#44 » by Pharaoh » Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:22 am

El Chivo wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:And due to our starting PG being unwilling to give up the rock other dudes get pushed into situations that aren't their strengths...

So as a Coach what do you do David?


don't rush his coming-back, for example.

At some point he's gonna come back regardless of how long you sit him so the question still stands:

As coach what do you do?

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Post#45 » by vic » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:20 pm

Pharaoh wrote:
El Chivo wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:And due to our starting PG being unwilling to give up the rock other dudes get pushed into situations that aren't their strengths...

So as a Coach what do you do David?


don't rush his coming-back, for example.

At some point he's gonna come back regardless of how long you sit him so the question still stands:

As coach what do you do?

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Several options:

1. Fall out of love with combo guards as pgs.
2. Scoring Guards with low assist rates come off the bench period thats just bball iq and company policy.
3. If you dont have a passing pg, you then MUST pair him with a passing SF NOT an iso chucking fadeaway jumpers SF like isolayshaun Prince (Frank) or Iso Morris (SVG).
You need 2-way wings, 2-way shooting bigs, and you can't allow low iq players on the court. Assist/turnover ratio is crucial. Shooting point guards are icing on the cake IF they are plus defenders.
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Post#46 » by Canadafan » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:39 pm

I know they're interchangeable but isn't Marcus more of a SF? He guards SF'S mostly. Tobias seems to be more the PF in our rotation.
My guess is svg keeps it all the same but tries to upgrade Leuer at PF.
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Post#47 » by Pharaoh » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:23 am

vic wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:
El Chivo wrote:
don't rush his coming-back, for example.

At some point he's gonna come back regardless of how long you sit him so the question still stands:

As coach what do you do?

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Several options:

1. Fall out of love with combo guards as pgs.
2. Scoring Guards with low assist rates come off the bench period thats just bball iq and company policy.
3. If you dont have a passing pg, you then MUST pair him with a passing SF NOT an iso chucking fadeaway jumpers SF like isolayshaun Prince (Frank) or Iso Morris (SVG).


Since David had no answer the correct options were:

1 - dont rush him back: let RJ get more practice time with the team and get back to legit 100% before making him active

Then

2 - play him 15-20 minutes a night off the bench with SJ as the secondary ball handler. Starters should have been: Dre, Mook, Harris, KCP & Ish

3 - assuming that we were winning and/or extremely competitive (we were before RJ returned) continue to bring RJ off the bench for the duration of the season

Well play Vic!

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Post#48 » by El Chivo » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:52 am

Canadafan wrote:I know they're interchangeable but isn't Marcus more of a SF? He guards SF'S mostly. Tobias seems to be more the PF in our rotation.
My guess is svg keeps it all the same but tries to upgrade Leuer at PF.


Ibaka, Millsap, Horford etc. (are you watching playoffs?) would be our highway to perennial mediocrity.
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Post#49 » by Pharaoh » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:54 pm

El Chivo wrote:
Canadafan wrote:I know they're interchangeable but isn't Marcus more of a SF? He guards SF'S mostly. Tobias seems to be more the PF in our rotation.
My guess is svg keeps it all the same but tries to upgrade Leuer at PF.


Ibaka, Millsap, Horford etc. (are you watching playoffs?) would be our highway to perennial mediocrity.

We - like the vast majority of teans - are headed there anyway!

Unless you somehow draft 2 future HOF players in a 3-5 year period you're at the mercy of the new era super friends BS.

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Post#50 » by hoophabit » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:15 pm

Again, where does this 'SVG rushed RJ back' thing come from? Is there a source where RJ says he didn't want to come back but SVG forced him? Team doctors say Reggie's knee was not preventing him from playing. The idea that Ish and Beno would have led the Pistons to the playoffs and success is a myth. Yeah, we're all disappointed, but 'cutting off your nose to spite your face' is not a productive approach. Mr. Peanut was right: "It's going to be a long 6 months!"
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Post#51 » by Canadafan » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:43 pm

El Chivo wrote:
Canadafan wrote:I know they're interchangeable but isn't Marcus more of a SF? He guards SF'S mostly. Tobias seems to be more the PF in our rotation.
My guess is svg keeps it all the same but tries to upgrade Leuer at PF.


Ibaka, Millsap, Horford etc. (are you watching playoffs?) would be our highway to perennial mediocrity.


I'm just saying that Marcus isn't really a PF.
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Post#52 » by Pharaoh » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:00 pm

hoophabit wrote:Again, where does this 'SVG rushed RJ back' thing come from? Is there a source where RJ says he didn't want to come back but SVG forced him? Team doctors say Reggie's knee was not preventing him from playing. The idea that Ish and Beno would have led the Pistons to the playoffs and success is a myth. Yeah, we're all disappointed, but 'cutting off your nose to spite your face' is not a productive approach. Mr. Peanut was right: "It's going to be a long 6 months!"

The thought process is:

We were starting to play extremely well with Ish starting when BOOM RJ comes back and we sucked for a bit.

If something is working you don't change it completely!

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