This offseason

[Prokorov]

I'd like to throw a max at Porter, which will undoubtedly get matched.

I'm still not convinced it definitely gets matched.

ESPN ran an article about how Porter's play in the playoffs would determine if he was worth a max deal.

The Wizards have no bench and would have to give up all possible cap space if they sign Porter to a max. I'm not sure that they will want to do that.

The wizards have 98M in gauranteed salary next season. that puts them 8-10M under the cap... unless they renounce Porter in which case he becomes an unrestricted free agent, which they wont do, they will make him the qualifying offer to keep his RFA rights.

8-10M is about what the MLE will be... so they dont lose cap flexibility regardless of what they pay porter. they will have 8-10M no matter what. only chance to get under would be to trade mahinmi for cap space. but they cant trade next years pick cause they have none this year so hard to salary dump

[Roy Tarpley]

If the Hawks throw in their 2018 1st rd pick along with DHoward, maybe!

[Prokorov]

I'd like to throw a max at Porter, which will undoubtedly get matched.

I'm still not convinced it definitely gets matched.

ESPN ran an article about how Porter's play in the playoffs would determine if he was worth a max deal.

The Wizards have no bench and would have to give up all possible cap space if they sign Porter to a max. I'm not sure that they will want to do that.

I've never wanted to throw a max at him because I don't think he's worth it and I don't want his contract to limit our cap flexibility when we actually have our picks back and (hopefully) should be a much better team. That's when we can start signing legit allstars to that type of big contracts. Not for a 3rd option who has struggled ever since Bogs showed up and doesn't look anything close to a guy who should be taking up more than 1/5 of your cap space.

same here. i dont care how young they are, i think its always a mistake to max a role player hoping he will eventually become an all-star. only time id do that is if its my own guy and im already over the cap (kind of like washington, which is why they would likely match)

[Prokorov]

No way do I want anything to do with Dwight Howard. I would rather keep Lopez.

yeah there was a time id do that but certainly not now with the type of culture we are trying to build.

[Hello Brooklyn]

If the Hawks throw in their 2018 1st rd pick along with DHoward, maybe!

Still not worth it.

Dwight is a cancer.

[jbeachboy]

who do you guys want gone from the team and who do you definitely want back from current roster?

Keep:

Lopez
Lin
LeVert
RHJ
Whitehead
Dinwiddie
McDaniels
Booker
Acy
Goodwin

everyone else I'm not sure about.

I'd be willing to let McDaniels go based on my unfamiliarity of next seasons roster capacity and who can or can't be sent to DL without losing them.

Don't forget about Nicholson, we can't let him go without penalty unless via trade.

i would keep mcdaniels 1 more year, 3 mil aint too bad for his production but i wouldnt keep mcdaniels after that for a larger salary.

[jbeachboy]

who do you guys want gone from the team and who do you definitely want back from current roster?

guys i want gone:
Lopez
Hamilton
Foye

guys i want back:
everyone else

thats also who i want gone, id like nicholson gone too, id get rid of mcdaniels, acy, kilpatrick, booker, and harris too if it can bring back a first round pick.

[Prokorov]

who do you guys want gone from the team and who do you definitely want back from current roster?

guys i want gone:
Lopez
Hamilton
Foye

guys i want back:
everyone else

thats also who i want gone, id like nicholson gone too, id get rid of mcdaniels, acy, kilpatrick, booker, and harris too if it can bring back a first round pick.

nicholson doesnt make much and i dont want to pay to get rid of him. so im fine with him for now

[NyCeEvO]

who do you guys want gone from the team and who do you definitely want back from current roster?

guys i want gone:
Lopez
Hamilton
Foye

guys i want back:
everyone else

I'm pretty sure Foye is a no brainer gone. Kenny referenced him saying something like we thank Foye for his services (i.e. he ain't coming back).

[NyCeEvO]

If the Hawks throw in their 2018 1st rd pick along with DHoward, maybe!

Still not worth it.

Dwight is a cancer.

I can't believe that he's yet again complaining about how he's being used on offense.

I'm like...dude, you're older, less athletic and still can't make free throws. Maybe if you played all out all of the time, you'd make the decision to take you off the floor at the end of games much tougher, but you don't. You got paid and you're back at home. Just shut up already.

[spaceballer]

I'd like to throw a max at Porter, which will undoubtedly get matched.

I'm still not convinced it definitely gets matched.

ESPN ran an article about how Porter's play in the playoffs would determine if he was worth a max deal.

The Wizards have no bench and would have to give up all possible cap space if they sign Porter to a max. I'm not sure that they will want to do that.

The wizards have 98M in gauranteed salary next season. that puts them 8-10M under the cap... unless they renounce Porter in which case he becomes an unrestricted free agent, which they wont do, they will make him the qualifying offer to keep his RFA rights.

8-10M is about what the MLE will be... so they dont lose cap flexibility regardless of what they pay porter. they will have 8-10M no matter what. only chance to get under would be to trade mahinmi for cap space. but they cant trade next years pick cause they have none this year so hard to salary dump

Actually, the Stepien rule only applies to future draft picks. Once a draft selection is made, that draft pick no longer factors into the rule parameters. So the Wizards are free to trade next year's pick after this summer's draft but not prior to it, despite owing this year's pick to the Nets.

[MrDollarBills]

Dwight Howard = DOG

[MrDollarBills]

Hmm, i know people here are prolly down on Dwight Howard due to his stupidity in accepting his option in ORL and in not forcing his way to BRK to play with DWill, but with him whining like a bitch in ATL, maybe swing a deal to grab him and his remaining 2 years?

ATL trades
DHo

BRK trades
BroLo
SKill
IW? or BOS pick

ATL gets out of DHo's deal earlier and get rid of the locker room headache. They get back a shooter who can stretch the floor for their motion offense, as well as additional cheap wing help to bolster scoring. They do lose defense and rebounding though, but depending on DHo's antics they might just want him gone.

BRK gets a prima donna headcase but he brings to the table everything BRK needs on the defensive end and some elite PnR rim running (assuming DHo gets it through his head he's not a post player). Also he's not on a deal for a crapton of years so even if he flops, meh, just an extra year of salary.

Also still leaves enough money to sign Otto Porter if one so desires.

C - DHo, Acy, JHam
PF- RHJ, Booker
SF- Porter, Harris
SG- Levert, IW?, KJ, Goodwin
PG- Lin, Dim

Needs more shooting at the 4. Add in draft picks and the roster is up to 15. Would focus on bigs in the upcoming draft.

Nope. Lay down with dogs, end up with fleas and ticks

[Ror1997]

What does grabbing D12 do? Give us a 2 year window to compete for a 6-8 seed? No thanks. I'd rather win 5 games and stick to our plan than abandon it.

[MrDollarBills]

I would rather win 12 games before wanting the Nets to go out and bring in guys like that. just NO. I don't care what stats that dog puts up. Atlanta was a mess towards the middle of the season, I wonder why?

I would rather the Nets lose with Lopez getting pick and rolled to death before agreeing to compromising the team's culture with just cancerous, me me me players who don't play hard every night.

Do this the right way, or don't do it at all. Lopez pisses me off with his inability to defend the pick and roll and his softness at times but I'll deal with that over a guy who is a cancer, a dog, and frankly a horrible human being.

[All Nets]

The wizards have 98M in gauranteed salary next season. that puts them 8-10M under the cap... unless they renounce Porter in which case he becomes an unrestricted free agent, which they wont do, they will make him the qualifying offer to keep his RFA rights.

8-10M is about what the MLE will be... so they dont lose cap flexibility regardless of what they pay porter. they will have 8-10M no matter what. only chance to get under would be to trade mahinmi for cap space. but they cant trade next years pick cause they have none this year so hard to salary dump

That's actually why I would max Porter. Washington can't get any better in the short term, but with Beal, Wall, Gortat and Mahinmi locked into big contracts until 2019 they need to retain Porter for any shot of being a contender, regardless of how they finish in the playoffs this year. Make Washington open up their wallet the way the Blazers have done.

And if they pass, which I heavily doubt they will, I'd be happy taking on Porter because I believe the benefit of building a winning team culture while RHJ, Whitehead, LeVert, and our draft picks are coming of age is worth the overpay on Porter.

[kamaze]

Brook is arguably better than Dwight 20.5 ppg vs 13.5. He murders Brook in rebounding though 12 to 5 like was said he's a cancer, keep Big Disney!!

[NyCeEvO]

I'm still not convinced it definitely gets matched.

ESPN ran an article about how Porter's play in the playoffs would determine if he was worth a max deal.

The Wizards have no bench and would have to give up all possible cap space if they sign Porter to a max. I'm not sure that they will want to do that.

I've never wanted to throw a max at him because I don't think he's worth it and I don't want his contract to limit our cap flexibility when we actually have our picks back and (hopefully) should be a much better team. That's when we can start signing legit allstars to that type of big contracts. Not for a 3rd option who has struggled ever since Bogs showed up and doesn't look anything close to a guy who should be taking up more than 1/5 of your cap space.

same here. i dont care how young they are, i think its always a mistake to max a role player hoping he will eventually become an all-star. only time id do that is if its my own guy and im already over the cap (kind of like washington, which is why they would likely match)

I agree but I would say that if I have strong confidence that a player will become an allstar, I'd do it.

Bradley Beal wasn't an allstar last year but everything I saw from him suggested that he was going to keep improving, which is why I didn't have an issue throwing near-max/max money at him last year. I anticipated that he would keep improving and he has done so as a legit 2nd option for the Wizards.

The thing that separates Porter from Beal is that I don't have much confidence that Porter will become an allstar.

He is a decent defender and a good shooter, but these are attributes that we can get from other players for a much cheaper rate. If he had the ability to break down a defense or up his defensive intensity, he'd be a completely different player and have a much greater impact. If he had those capabilities, it would be a no-brainer to throw a max at him but he doesn't.

I've seen way too many players over the years perform at a good level for a 1-2 seasons, then change teams and are pretty bad because they no longer have the same support structure which allowed them to thrive as before.

The fact that Porter tanked after Bogs' arrival should've cemented in everyone's eyes that he's a player who shouldn't be maxed.

[Paradise]

So, who's interested in Dwight Howard? He's available for a 2nd rounder


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[spaceballer]

I would take a second rounder like Whitehead on his salary over Dwight on his. Especially with how much Dwight depends on athleticism that will decline with age. And then you have potential culture and locker room issues.