A Trade For Giannis Antetokounmpo

OrlandoDream · Post #21 » by **OrlandoDream** » Sat May 13, 2017 12:50 pm

Unless it's for LeBron, Durant, or Kwahi your not getting equal value for Giannis. His potential for growth and improvement is too great

The Lazy Potato · Post #22 » by **The Lazy Potato** » Sat May 13, 2017 1:14 pm

personally i think the only team that can make a trade like this happen without lose their best player is Golden State Warriors.
they can trade Draymond Green + Klay thompson for Giannis.
And then they will have a team with Steph Curry, KD and Giannis, still a scary team to play against. not bad i guess

pipfan · Post #23 » by **pipfan** » Sat May 13, 2017 1:32 pm

If I were Milw-nothing, except Towns and Minny's #1 (which Thibs would not do).

Brown and both BRK picks-while a GREAT package, does not do it, even if it is Fultz

shrink · Post #24 » by **shrink** » Sat May 13, 2017 1:37 pm

I think it's easier to just list the players that a team wouldn't trade for Giannis.

KAT
LeBron - simply because they could win championships now
Steph - same

Is there anyone else on the list? Maybe Kawhi?

Post #25 » by **dakomish23** » Sat May 13, 2017 1:49 pm

SanDavid wrote:
Johnny Firpo wrote:
SanDavid wrote:All of BRK picks, Jaylen Brown... uh all the available assets pretty much. Giannis will become the best player in the league at his prime imo. You do whatever it takes to get that kind of a player.

So you would pretty much give them anything they want. Not sure I agree. This year's draft could be legendary, and next year's draft looks to be very strong as well. Giannis is obviously amazing, but you would have two chances to find the next dominant guy, in two strong drafts. Not sure I would be willing to give that up, especially with another high potential asset going out.

We already know what Giannis is going to become. People are valuing these picks way too high. Yeah they're up there when it comes to valuable assets, but the keyword is "chance". I'd rather bank my future on Giannis than bank on a "potential" legendary draft class. To me Giannis is more valuable. We heard about all these "legendary" draft classes since 2003 and never once has it happen yet...

You need to look at the 2008 and 2009 drafts. A lot of studs and a lot of starters throughout

The Lazy Potato · Post #26 » by **The Lazy Potato** » Sat May 13, 2017 1:49 pm

shrink wrote:I think it's easier to just list the players that a team wouldn't trade for Giannis.

KAT
LeBron - simply because they could win championships now
Steph - same

Is there anyone else on the list? Maybe Kawhi?

kawhi for sure and maybe KD or AD if he can stay healthy.

Yallbecrazy · Post #27 » by **Yallbecrazy** » Sat May 13, 2017 1:50 pm

You could have Powell, but you would need to throw in some picks

shrink · Post #28 » by **shrink** » Sat May 13, 2017 1:52 pm

The Lazy Potato wrote:
shrink wrote:I think it's easier to just list the players that a team wouldn't trade for Giannis.

KAT
LeBron - simply because they could win championships now
Steph - same

Is there anyone else on the list? Maybe Kawhi?

kawhi for sure and maybe KD or AD if he can stay healthy.

I thought about Anthony Davis, but now that they have Boogie, I think they might go Giannis.
Durant is much better, but older and will squeeze an extra $10 mil from a very tight payroll. He's also not the face of the franchise after one injury-plagued year, but he can be a key to winning multiple championships.

But you're right - those two are possible. I may be over-shooting here too. The elites of the league are so far to one side of the bell curve, that even with Giannis potential, how likely is it that he ultimately becomes as good as, say, Durant? That's a high bar.

The Lazy Potato · Post #29 » by **The Lazy Potato** » Sat May 13, 2017 1:55 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:You could have Powell, but you would need to throw in some picks

you mean the guy that Giannis blocked with his elbow?

babyjax13 · Post #30 » by **babyjax13** » Sat May 13, 2017 1:55 pm

Anyone, even Rudy.

shrink · Post #31 » by **shrink** » Sat May 13, 2017 2:02 pm

Also, I think it's important to remember the question:

The Lazy Potato wrote:Just a hypothetical question:
Which player or players from your team are you willing to give to get Giannis Antetokounmpo in your team next season?

This is "what would you give?" and not "what would MIL accept?"

When you are talking about franchise players like this, they have a lot of additional value to their home teams, because of fan interest and marketing. Asset valuation is subjective. MIN might not trade KAT for Giannis, but MIL might not accept KAT for Giannis either. The way the question is written is not to find a trade that works for both parties, despite the thread title. I don't think there is a single player that MIL would take straight up for Giannis right now.

The Lazy Potato · Post #32 » by **The Lazy Potato** » Sat May 13, 2017 2:27 pm

shrink wrote:Also, I think it's important to remember the question:

The Lazy Potato wrote:Just a hypothetical question:
Which player or players from your team are you willing to give to get Giannis Antetokounmpo in your team next season?

This is "what would you give?" and not "what would MIL accept?"

When you are talking about franchise players like this, they have a lot of additional value to their home teams, because of fan interest and marketing. Asset valuation is subjective. MIN might not trade KAT for Giannis, but MIL might not accept KAT for Giannis either. The way the question is written is not to find a trade that works for both parties, despite the thread title. I don't think there is a single player that MIL would take straight up for Giannis right now.

Good point my friend. and you are right on this. probably the milwaukee bucks will not trade Giannis for anyone.
it's not about if Milwaukee accept the trade. it's more about to see how much value Giannis has now for the fans after his amazing season.

Post #33 » by **Prez** » Sat May 13, 2017 2:35 pm

Classic "tell me how awesome my team's player is" thread.

The Lazy Potato · Post #34 » by **The Lazy Potato** » Sat May 13, 2017 2:53 pm

Prez wrote:Classic "tell me how awesome my team's player is" thread.

No i disagree with that. you can be a fan of a player without supporting his team. is not about the team anyway, is about the player.

Post #35 » by **Prez** » Sat May 13, 2017 3:09 pm

The Lazy Potato wrote:
Prez wrote:Classic "tell me how awesome my team's player is" thread.

No i disagree with that. you can be a fan of a player without supporting his team. is not about the team anyway, is about the player.

Wait so you're a Brewers and Badgers fan but not a Bucks fan?

The Lazy Potato · Post #36 » by **The Lazy Potato** » Sat May 13, 2017 3:12 pm

Prez wrote:
The Lazy Potato wrote:
Prez wrote:Classic "tell me how awesome my team's player is" thread.

No i disagree with that. you can be a fan of a player without supporting his team. is not about the team anyway, is about the player.

Wait so you're a Brewers and Badgers fan but not a Bucks fan?

that means nothing, i just add them when i created the accound, i don't even watch baseball but is not about me. i'm talking generaly you can be a fan of a player without supporting his team and you know i'm right on this.

j-ragg · Post #37 » by **j-ragg** » Sat May 13, 2017 3:27 pm

Aaron Gordon and lifetime passes to Disney World.

The Lazy Potato · Post #38 » by **The Lazy Potato** » Sat May 13, 2017 3:58 pm

j-ragg wrote:Aaron Gordon and lifetime passes to Disney World.

Yes, i would accept that with an open mouth.

SlowPaced · Post #39 » by **SlowPaced** » Sat May 13, 2017 4:59 pm

Riko wrote:Giannis is really the most valuable player in the league (Leonard is the second and Jokic/Kat are thirds) in a trade scenario.

LeBron is the most valuable trade asset in the league despite his age. He means instant contention.

The Lazy Potato · Post #40 » by **The Lazy Potato** » Sat May 13, 2017 5:47 pm

SlowPaced wrote:
Riko wrote:Giannis is really the most valuable player in the league (Leonard is the second and Jokic/Kat are thirds) in a trade scenario.

LeBron is the most valuable trade asset in the league despite his age. He means instant contention.

well, lebron is 32-33 years old. He is the best player on the planet but after 2-3 years probably he will not be. and ofc when you value a player you have to count his age too.