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OAKLEY_2 wrote:Question: why isn't Leaf in the conversation? People keep mentioning bubble second rounders and this stretch 4 potential dynamo gets ignored. Kid has serious skills. If Pat bolts as expected I would be looking hard at this guy.
RaptorsLife wrote:Tj leaf was helped alot by lonzo ball passing and his measurements awful
RaptorsNorth wrote:I don't see how we can keep our pick in the draft unless we plan to trade our pick and a player to move up in the draft and grab a player that can produce right away. This team already has a bunch of you guys eating up roster spots and hardly playing. This pick is as good as gone in a trade in if we can't move up in the draft. We already got norm, delon, fred, pascal, jakob, bruno and bebe all eating up roster spots and hardly playing.
even if you draft a player for the 905 that player still counts as a roster spot on the raptors. now you have the pick, bruno, bebe, jakob, powell, fred, pascal, and delon. Most of your bench spots are now taken up by players that hardly play. It makes no sense to use that pick unless it's on a player that's staying in Europe or you plan to use a current player and the pick to get a higher pick thAt can possibly be a starter or a 6 man type of player.Kevin Willis wrote:RaptorsNorth wrote:I don't see how we can keep our pick in the draft unless we plan to trade our pick and a player to move up in the draft and grab a player that can produce right away. This team already has a bunch of you guys eating up roster spots and hardly playing. This pick is as good as gone in a trade in if we can't move up in the draft. We already got norm, delon, fred, pascal, jakob, bruno and bebe all eating up roster spots and hardly playing.
Of the four free agents - Lowry, Ibaka, Patterson and Tucker - the most that will come back is 2 and there is a possibility that none come back. With that possibility we can draft someone for the 905. If you consider that two are stretch PFs and one is a SF we will most likely draft a forward. Only Pascal and Bruno are currently our forwards of the younguns.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
BoyzNTheHood wrote:It's a highlight reel so take it as such, but some of the moves he makes are absolutely elite! He seems like one of those Kentucky kids who under perform in college but breakout in the pros.
HeadtopChunes wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:It's a highlight reel so take it as such, but some of the moves he makes are absolutely elite! He seems like one of those Kentucky kids who under perform in college but breakout in the pros.
Looks like someone gave him a promise since he picked up an agent.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
HeadtopChunes wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:It's a highlight reel so take it as such, but some of the moves he makes are absolutely elite! He seems like one of those Kentucky kids who under perform in college but breakout in the pros.
Looks like someone gave him a promise since he picked up an agent.
HeadtopChunes wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:It's a highlight reel so take it as such, but some of the moves he makes are absolutely elite! He seems like one of those Kentucky kids who under perform in college but breakout in the pros.
Looks like someone gave him a promise since he picked up an agent.
RaptorsNorth wrote:even if you draft a player for the 905 that player still counts as a roster spot on the raptors. now you have the pick, bruno, bebe, jakob, powell, fred, pascal, and delon. Most of your bench spots are now taken up by players that hardly play. It makes no sense to use that pick unless it's on a player that's staying in Europe or you plan to use a current player and the pick to get a higher pick thAt can possibly be a starter or a 6 man type of player.Kevin Willis wrote:RaptorsNorth wrote:I don't see how we can keep our pick in the draft unless we plan to trade our pick and a player to move up in the draft and grab a player that can produce right away. This team already has a bunch of you guys eating up roster spots and hardly playing. This pick is as good as gone in a trade in if we can't move up in the draft. We already got norm, delon, fred, pascal, jakob, bruno and bebe all eating up roster spots and hardly playing.
Of the four free agents - Lowry, Ibaka, Patterson and Tucker - the most that will come back is 2 and there is a possibility that none come back. With that possibility we can draft someone for the 905. If you consider that two are stretch PFs and one is a SF we will most likely draft a forward. Only Pascal and Bruno are currently our forwards of the younguns.
Kevin Willis wrote:RaptorsNorth wrote:even if you draft a player for the 905 that player still counts as a roster spot on the raptors. now you have the pick, bruno, bebe, jakob, powell, fred, pascal, and delon. Most of your bench spots are now taken up by players that hardly play. It makes no sense to use that pick unless it's on a player that's staying in Europe or you plan to use a current player and the pick to get a higher pick thAt can possibly be a starter or a 6 man type of player.Kevin Willis wrote:
Of the four free agents - Lowry, Ibaka, Patterson and Tucker - the most that will come back is 2 and there is a possibility that none come back. With that possibility we can draft someone for the 905. If you consider that two are stretch PFs and one is a SF we will most likely draft a forward. Only Pascal and Bruno are currently our forwards of the younguns.
I'm sorry but I don't understand. Some of the players didn't play as much this year will play more next year like Jacob, Powell, Siakam and Delon. That will leave 905 spots available.
CoachJReturns wrote:Kevin Willis wrote:RaptorsNorth wrote: even if you draft a player for the 905 that player still counts as a roster spot on the raptors. now you have the pick, bruno, bebe, jakob, powell, fred, pascal, and delon. Most of your bench spots are now taken up by players that hardly play. It makes no sense to use that pick unless it's on a player that's staying in Europe or you plan to use a current player and the pick to get a higher pick thAt can possibly be a starter or a 6 man type of player.
I'm sorry but I don't understand. Some of the players didn't play as much this year will play more next year like Jacob, Powell, Siakam and Delon. That will leave 905 spots available.
RaptorsNorth is talking out of his ass here. We already trade multiple picks away. Masai will keep one because he likes the draft. Not sure how someone could not notice that.
when will some people learn that drafting a player and putting him on the 905 still counts as a raptors Roster spot. Fred, pascal and bruno played on the 905 but they're signed to the raptors and count as roster spots on the raptors man. We don't own the rights to the rest of the players on the 905. Any NBA team can sign any of them at anytime. The NBA is not like the NHL were you draft players and put them on your farm team, keep their rights and that player don't count as a roster spot on the big club. In the NBA if you draft a player, sign that player, then place that player on your farm team, that player still counts as roster spot on the NBA team. dude you have to be hitting something stronger than weed if you think the raptors are going Anywhere with a bench full of players that are basically still rookies. Yea players like bruno and bebe might have been in the league for 2 -3 seasons but they hardly have any games under their belts. Also masai talked about wanting more shooters and you think he's talking about the young guys on the bench that hardly have a jump shot right now ? Other norm who on the bench has a shoot ? Bebe ? Pascal ? Jakob ? Delon ? Get real bro and stop quoting me with nonsense. I mean when you look at the good teams in this league you'll see that none of them have has much young inexperience players eating up roster spots and hardly playing. Rookies like Patrick McCaw played more games than some of our younger players combine and he's playing on warriors. Not Boston, not the wizards, not the cavs, not golden state, and not the spurs. None of those teams have as much inexperience young players sitting on their bench all season and not playing any real NBA minutes. The only way we keep this pick is if we're looking to move a player like bebe in a package deal. You can't be serious if you think we're going to compete with top teams by going into next season with a bunch inexperience players playing big roles hahahahah come on bro. This guy wants to tie up 8 roster spots into players that hardy played last season and a #23 pick.. If you're doing that then you might as well just blow it up. You're basically just gaving patterson or Tucker's spot to a inexperience young player and yet you expect to compete next season lol ok. What team in the f..... League is competing with 8 young players making up most of their bench squad ? 7 young players that hardly play in the league and a f..... #23 pick making up your bench And you expect to compete next season ? Let's get real here man. I mean it's just f..... common sense after we've heard what masai and casey said their plans are for next season. I'm starting to weed out these nonsense quotes from now on. If your response to my post makes no sense then I'm ignoring that sh.. No disrespect but sometimes I really have to do this after reading some of these responses.CoachJReturns wrote:Kevin Willis wrote:RaptorsNorth wrote: even if you draft a player for the 905 that player still counts as a roster spot on the raptors. now you have the pick, bruno, bebe, jakob, powell, fred, pascal, and delon. Most of your bench spots are now taken up by players that hardly play. It makes no sense to use that pick unless it's on a player that's staying in Europe or you plan to use a current player and the pick to get a higher pick thAt can possibly be a starter or a 6 man type of player.
I'm sorry but I don't understand. Some of the players didn't play as much this year will play more next year like Jacob, Powell, Siakam and Delon. That will leave 905 spots available.
RaptorsNorth is talking out of his ass here. We already trade multiple picks away. Masai will keep one because he likes the draft. Not sure how someone could not notice that.
raptor jesus wrote:Jawun Evans broke the combine record for wingspan of a player under 6 feet (he's 5'11.5 with 6'5.5 wingspan). Like his game as well.
RaptorsNorth wrote:when will some people learn that drafting a player and putting him on the 905 still counts as a raptors Roster spot. Fred, pascal and bruno played on the 905 but they're signed to the raptors and count as roster spots on the raptors man. We don't own the rights to the rest of the players on the 905. Any NBA team can sign any of them at anytime. The NBA is not like the NHL were you draft players and put them on your farm team, keep their rights and that player don't count as a roster spot on the big club. In the NBA if you draft a player, sign that player, then place player on your farm team, that player still counts as roster spot on the NBA team. dude you have to be hitting stronger than weed if you think the raptors are going Anywhere with a bench full of basically players that are still rookies. Yea players like bruno and bebe might have been in the league for 2 -3 seasons but they hardly have any games under their belts. Also masai talked about wanting more shooters and you think he's talking about the young guys on the bench that hardly have a jump shot right now ? Other norm who on the bench has a shoot ? Bebe ? Pascal ? Jakob ? Get real bro and stop quoting me with nonsense. I mean when you look at the good teams in this league you'll see that none of them have has much young inexperience players eating up roster spots and hardly playing. Roockies like Patrick McCaw played more games than some of our younger players combine. Not Boston, not the wizards, not the cavs, not golden state, and not the spurs. None of those teams have as much inexperience young players sitting on their bench all season and not playing any real NBA minutes. The only way we keep this pick is if we're looking to move a player like bebe in a package deal. You can't be serious if you think we're going to compete with top teams by going into next season with a bunch inexperience players playing big roles hahahahah come on bro. I mean it's just common sense after we've heard what masai and casey said their plans are for next season. I'm starting to weed out these nonsense quotes from now on. If your response to my post makes no sense then I'm ignoring that sh.. No disrespect but sometimes I really have to do this after reading some of these responses.CoachJReturns wrote:Kevin Willis wrote:
I'm sorry but I don't understand. Some of the players didn't play as much this year will play more next year like Jacob, Powell, Siakam and Delon. That will leave 905 spots available.
RaptorsNorth is talking out of his ass here. We already trade multiple picks away. Masai will keep one because he likes the draft. Not sure how someone could not notice that.
BoyzNTheHood wrote:It's a highlight reel so take it as such, but some of the moves he makes are absolutely elite! He seems like one of those Kentucky kids who under perform in college but breakout in the pros.
raptor jesus wrote:ash_k wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:
You can't judge a guy by what some were claiming. The next Pau Gasol wouldn't go 9th in any draft. He went 3rd in his own
That's not the point. Plus Pau was actually an accomplished player as a super Euro Prospect. was Poeltl?
Brook Lopez was drafted 10th and can score 20 easily and now has a 3 on top of that, with that massive length of his. Poeltl is certainly not the next Brook Lopez.
What has Krystkowiak proved?
Most bigs from Europe get saddled with that comparison out of laziness - JV did as well.
And you're basing prospects on their coaches? Outside of Steph Curry, how many prospects has Bob Mckillop developed? Who was Lillard's coach at Weber State? PG's at Frenso State? Giannis' in Div 2 in Greece?
BoyzNTheHood wrote:It's a highlight reel so take it as such, but some of the moves he makes are absolutely elite! He seems like one of those Kentucky kids who under perform in college but breakout in the pros.
RaptorsNorth wrote:even if you draft a player for the 905 that player still counts as a roster spot on the raptors. now you have the pick, bruno, bebe, jakob, powell, fred, pascal, and delon. Most of your bench spots are now taken up by players that hardly play. It makes no sense to use that pick unless it's on a player that's staying in Europe or you plan to use a current player and the pick to get a higher pick thAt can possibly be a starter or a 6 man type of player.Kevin Willis wrote:RaptorsNorth wrote:I don't see how we can keep our pick in the draft unless we plan to trade our pick and a player to move up in the draft and grab a player that can produce right away. This team already has a bunch of you guys eating up roster spots and hardly playing. This pick is as good as gone in a trade in if we can't move up in the draft. We already got norm, delon, fred, pascal, jakob, bruno and bebe all eating up roster spots and hardly playing.
Of the four free agents - Lowry, Ibaka, Patterson and Tucker - the most that will come back is 2 and there is a possibility that none come back. With that possibility we can draft someone for the 905. If you consider that two are stretch PFs and one is a SF we will most likely draft a forward. Only Pascal and Bruno are currently our forwards of the younguns.