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Post#1341 » by Prokorov » Mon May 22, 2017 6:34 pm

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Semi is so legit. He has all of the physical tools to become Jimmy Butler, he just needs to put it all together. He and RHJ would interchangeable at the 3/4 which is clearly what Marks wants.

Diallo and Semi would be great, but it would be better if we could do the following:

22- Diallo
27- Jeanne
trade 57 + cash for a pick in the 30s to get Semi



why is he projected so low? the wing span?


Age (he is 22) and limited college play (didnt play much at duke, transfered to SMU)

He will go first round despite what some mocks say.
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Post#1342 » by Prokorov » Mon May 22, 2017 6:36 pm

twosevenstreet wrote:

Semi is so legit. He has all of the physical tools to become Jimmy Butler, he just needs to put it all together. He and RHJ would interchangeable at the 3/4 which is clearly what Marks wants.

Diallo and Semi would be great, but it would be better if we could do the following:

22- Diallo
27- Jeanne
trade 57 + cash for a pick in the 30s to get Semi


i dont think you get semi after 30-32 at the latest. he may be mocked there but someone in the first is going to take him despite his age as a 43% 3 point shooter who defends and has size to play SF or PF.

Jeanne i think probably goes in the late 30s more likely.

give me ferguson over diallo if he makes it. id also look into jonathan motley for an upside guy if im going to take an upside guy based on athleticism then give me the bigman not the gaurd
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Post#1343 » by jbeachboy » Mon May 22, 2017 7:53 pm

prok, you prefer semi and ferguson over diallo? what number would you take motley and these guys?
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Post#1344 » by Prokorov » Mon May 22, 2017 8:01 pm

jbeachboy wrote:prok, you prefer semi and ferguson over diallo? what number would you take motley and these guys?


yes both over diallo. and by a decent margin. im not high on diallo. i know nothing about him other then he jumps high and no one in the lottery finds him to have great upside worth making him a promise.

If we took motley at 27 id be happy with that
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Post#1345 » by Karate Diop » Mon May 22, 2017 9:00 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wizards-insider/wp/2017/05/17/wizards-bench-questions-begin-with-free-agents-bojan-bogdanovic-and-the-point-guards/?utm_term=.4e57d04ec02a

The same can be said for McCullough, the 6-9 forward who came over with Bogdanovic in the Brooklyn deal.

McCullough needs to work on his consistency. As a big man who can shoot from the three and still flash athleticism within the arc, McCullough still did not crack the 20-point threshold throughout his March Development League assignment with the Northern Arizona Suns. Even so, the Wizards are high on McCullough and plan on developing him as if he is the team’s 2017 first-round draft pick; the 22nd overall pick was traded to Brooklyn.


Found this and got a bit of a chuckle, sounds pretty familiar doesn't it?

Good luck to McCullough but you have to wonder if he's going to be one of those "a year away from being a a year away" kind of guys.

It might very well take him until his second / third contract to find his niche in the league and I wonder if that's one of the reasons why Marks was okay with moving on.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1346 » by DarkXaero » Mon May 22, 2017 9:34 pm

Karate Diop wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wizards-insider/wp/2017/05/17/wizards-bench-questions-begin-with-free-agents-bojan-bogdanovic-and-the-point-guards/?utm_term=.4e57d04ec02a

The same can be said for McCullough, the 6-9 forward who came over with Bogdanovic in the Brooklyn deal.

McCullough needs to work on his consistency. As a big man who can shoot from the three and still flash athleticism within the arc, McCullough still did not crack the 20-point threshold throughout his March Development League assignment with the Northern Arizona Suns. Even so, the Wizards are high on McCullough and plan on developing him as if he is the team’s 2017 first-round draft pick; the 22nd overall pick was traded to Brooklyn.


Found this and got a bit of a chuckle, sounds pretty familiar doesn't it?

Good luck to McCullough but you have to wonder if he's going to be one of those "a year away from being a a year away" kind of guys.

It might very well take him until his second / third contract to find his niche in the league and I wonder if that's one of the reasons why Marks was okay with moving on.
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Post#1347 » by treiz » Mon May 22, 2017 11:15 pm

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Prokorov wrote:I know its unpopular but give me the #20 pick along with turner and leonard for trevor booker.

Booker and Leonards salaries for this season are a wash and say what you want about leonard but he is a stretch big who can also do alot of other things offensively.

we would add 17M to our cap and add the #20 pick. at 20/22/27 we would have alot of flexibility to add 3 guys or even move up.

we would still have 12M-19M n cap room, and up to 39M in cap room if we decided to move lopez.

Turner is a ball handler and passer who was great as a mentor and contrbutor early in the process for boston. i think he could help our young guys out a ton. 3 years left on his deal so he would expirw when we regain control of our picks


I'll do it for Leonard or Turner, not both. Preferably Leonard since he's 25 and could still have some room to grow. He might just need a change of scenery that's focused on development. But this is also under the notion that Lopez gets moved too.


they would not give a pick to move leonard. his contract is only 3 years 30 million.


Then why would you take both just for the 20th pick? Why absorb so much just for the 20th pick? Really, we should push for the 15th pick if we're willing to absorb both contracts which is about 26million per for 3 years.
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Post#1348 » by Curns13 » Tue May 23, 2017 12:49 am

Prokorov wrote:
jbeachboy wrote:prok, you prefer semi and ferguson over diallo? what number would you take motley and these guys?


yes both over diallo. and by a decent margin. im not high on diallo. i know nothing about him other then he jumps high and no one in the lottery finds him to have great upside worth making him a promise.

If we took motley at 27 id be happy with that

Ferguson is living off his high school rep because he did absolutely nothing to suggest he is a lottery pick in Australia. He played 15 minutes and averaged 4 ppg in a very poor league. The fact he couldn't get more minutes or score in bunches against his almost always shorter, less athletic opponents is a big concern for me. In comparison, Patty Mills averaged 19, 2 and 5 in his 10 game stint in Australia as a 22 year old. Not that Diallo has anything better to show for his last year, but just not sure why Ferguson is so high on so many lists.
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Post#1349 » by kamaze » Tue May 23, 2017 5:15 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
twosevenstreet wrote:

Semi is so legit. He has all of the physical tools to become Jimmy Butler, he just needs to put it all together. He and RHJ would interchangeable at the 3/4 which is clearly what Marks wants.

Diallo and Semi would be great, but it would be better if we could do the following:

22- Diallo
27- Jeanne
trade 57 + cash for a pick in the 30s to get Semi



why is he projected so low? the wing span?


I'm not sold on him after watching this keep in mind he's a senior.



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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1351 » by MrDollarBills » Tue May 23, 2017 3:11 pm

Prokorov wrote:
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Prokorov wrote:I know its unpopular but give me the #20 pick along with turner and leonard for trevor booker.

Booker and Leonards salaries for this season are a wash and say what you want about leonard but he is a stretch big who can also do alot of other things offensively.

we would add 17M to our cap and add the #20 pick. at 20/22/27 we would have alot of flexibility to add 3 guys or even move up.

we would still have 12M-19M n cap room, and up to 39M in cap room if we decided to move lopez.

Turner is a ball handler and passer who was great as a mentor and contrbutor early in the process for boston. i think he could help our young guys out a ton. 3 years left on his deal so he would expirw when we regain control of our picks


Okay, I understand Leonard since he'd fit our system (despite how horrible he is) and getting pick #20

You really don't make much of a good argument for bringing in Turner. He doesn't fit this system and he is by far one of, if not the worst, contracts in the league. Portland would need to give us something of serious value to take all of that garbage back man.


The #20 pick is the value for taking back turner... and he does fit the system too and was great with boston in a similar system. versatile enought o play multiple spots, great leader, unslefish, ball handler and passer. not shooting 3s is the only thing he doesnt do that we look for.

you arent going to get lottery picks to take back contracts like that. especially when it doesnt even get them under the cap. you can say "then we shouldnt do it" which is fine... but what are you spending that cap on instead?

id rather use it on turner then give a 1 year deal to someone


i'd rather keep the space free then, I don't think it's worth the 20th pick to absorb that much salary for guys who really aren't that good. Turner does those things but from what I recall Portland was awful when he was on the floor than off. No thanks.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1352 » by jbeachboy » Tue May 23, 2017 5:34 pm

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jbeachboy wrote:prok, you prefer semi and ferguson over diallo? what number would you take motley and these guys?


yes both over diallo. and by a decent margin. im not high on diallo. i know nothing about him other then he jumps high and no one in the lottery finds him to have great upside worth making him a promise.

If we took motley at 27 id be happy with that





do you think semi and ferguson will be there at 22? i think semi will, ive seen ferguson mocked higher.
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Post#1353 » by Prokorov » Tue May 23, 2017 5:37 pm

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I'll do it for Leonard or Turner, not both. Preferably Leonard since he's 25 and could still have some room to grow. He might just need a change of scenery that's focused on development. But this is also under the notion that Lopez gets moved too.


they would not give a pick to move leonard. his contract is only 3 years 30 million.


Then why would you take both just for the 20th pick? Why absorb so much just for the 20th pick? Really, we should push for the 15th pick if we're willing to absorb both contracts which is about 26million per for 3 years.


because they woudnt give 15. they might not give 20 and only offer 26.
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Post#1356 » by CalamityX12 » Tue May 23, 2017 7:26 pm

So much news about Diallo.... yet he has no current jumpshot lol... hope he makes it work.
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Post#1357 » by jbeachboy » Tue May 23, 2017 9:48 pm

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he is definitely staying in nba draft after this, at least 6 teams have interest.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1358 » by DarkXaero » Tue May 23, 2017 9:56 pm

From what I've read, Diallo actually received "mixed feedback" after his workouts, which tells me that he isn't going to be anywhere in or near lotto range.
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Post#1359 » by DarkXaero » Tue May 23, 2017 9:58 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:So much news about Diallo.... yet he has no current jumpshot lol... hope he makes it work.
His camp or someone close to him keeps releasing info to generate buzz.
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Post#1360 » by Prokorov » Tue May 23, 2017 10:20 pm

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he is definitely staying in nba draft after this, at least 6 teams have interest.


but which have interest in the first round and which have made a promise?

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