2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3

[Baddy Chuck]

Hartenstein was a train wreck at the hoop summit

Personally, I didn't see that at all.

[Badgerlander]

Hartenstein was a train wreck at the hoop summit

Personally, I didn't see that at all.

I wanted to like him but he looked like big white Vaughn

[Baddy Chuck]

Hartenstein was a train wreck at the hoop summit

Personally, I didn't see that at all.

I wanted to like him but he looked like big white Vaughn

I guess I really don't know what that means?

I saw a guy who like you said was very aggressive and it showed a lot of positives. He showed a nice ability as a forward to put the ball on the floor and attack the basket which led to fouls being called, a couple nice step back jumpers and a few flashes of his vision. Defensively it caused him to pick up a few dumb fouls but also led to some nice defensive plays on the perimeter as well as at the rim.

[Badgerlander]

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[Badgerlander]

Personally, I didn't see that at all.

I wanted to like him but he looked like big white Vaughn

I guess I really don't know what that means?

I saw a guy who like you said was very aggressive and it showed a lot of positives. He showed a nice ability as a forward to put the ball on the floor and attack the basket which led to fouls being called, a couple nice step back jumpers and a few flashes of his vision. Defensively it caused him to pick up a few dumb fouls but also led to some nice defensive plays on the perimeter as well as at the rim.

He was making the right decisions but he was so amped up that he couldn't finish anything that he started. Idk I should watch some other film on him but the hoop summit just demotivated my enthusiasm for him

[LUKE23]

No interest whatsoever in Kennard and I said that during the season. Unreal slow feet. He will need to shoot 60% from 3 on high volume to be a net positive.

[LuessiT]

I think you have a new #17 every minute .

I'd back Hartenstein though.

Forgive me Bucks posters. Torn with this draft class. Too many eye popping flaws on most below 12. Doing my best.

Hartenstein has a flaw. It is his % @Rim, finishing through contact, but while getting stronger he will figure it out.
His flaw can be "covered" by his mid range game, 3pt range, and his FT%.
Potential Mobile Stretch 5, any time you get a chance to draft one, you get em, too rare.

Hartenstein is already damn strong, definately not his problem...

[drone3]

I think you have a new #17 every minute .

I'd back Hartenstein though.

Forgive me Bucks posters. Torn with this draft class. Too many eye popping flaws on most below 12. Doing my best.

Hartenstein has a flaw. It is his % @Rim, finishing through contact, but while getting stronger he will figure it out.
His flaw can be "covered" by his mid range game, 3pt range, and his FT%.
Potential Mobile Stretch 5, any time you get a chance to draft one, you get em, too rare.

How does Hartenstein Compare to Dragan Bender?

[Badgerlander]

I think you have a new #17 every minute .

I'd back Hartenstein though.

Forgive me Bucks posters. Torn with this draft class. Too many eye popping flaws on most below 12. Doing my best.

Hartenstein has a flaw. It is his % @Rim, finishing through contact, but while getting stronger he will figure it out.
His flaw can be "covered" by his mid range game, 3pt range, and his FT%.
Potential Mobile Stretch 5, any time you get a chance to draft one, you get em, too rare.

How does Hartenstein Compare to Dragan Bender?

Kind of like comparing Kanter to Thon ish

[drone3]

Forgive me Bucks posters. Torn with this draft class. Too many eye popping flaws on most below 12. Doing my best.

Hartenstein has a flaw. It is his % @Rim, finishing through contact, but while getting stronger he will figure it out.
His flaw can be "covered" by his mid range game, 3pt range, and his FT%.
Potential Mobile Stretch 5, any time you get a chance to draft one, you get em, too rare.

How does Hartenstein Compare to Dragan Bender?

Kind of like comparing Kanter to Thon ish

That different? I better go study him

[drone3]

Just read this about Patton

Justin Patton is an explosive big man who can finish lobs and do little else. He is soft on the boards and defense, and drew surprisingly few free throws for such a physically gifted interior scorer. If a team wants a young big outside of the lottery, Tony Bradley is a much better choice as his monster 18.7% ORB rate crushes Patton’s measly 8.0%.

[MVP2110]

Just did my first real studying of players we could realistically take.
Guys in my first tier(in order):
John Collins
OJ Anunoby
Frank Jackson
Jawun Evans
TJ Leaf
Terrance Ferguson
Jarrett Allen


Guys I go back and forth on(wouldn't be upset, also wouldn't be excited)
Harry Giles
Luke Kennard
Ike Anigbogu

Guys I don't want in the first:
BAM
Hartenstein
Patton
Justin Jackson

[Douggystyle29]

Just did my first real studying of players we could realistically take.
Guys in my first tier(in order):
John Collins
OJ Anunoby
Frank Jackson
Jawun Evans
TJ Leaf
Terrance Ferguson
Jarrett Allen


Guys I go back and forth on(wouldn't be upset, also wouldn't be excited)
Harry Giles
Luke Kennard
Ike Anigbogu

Guys I don't want in the first:
BAM
Hartenstein
Patton
Justin Jackson

Just curious. What do you see in BAM that you don't like?

[MVP2110]

Just did my first real studying of players we could realistically take.
Guys in my first tier(in order):
John Collins
OJ Anunoby
Frank Jackson
Jawun Evans
TJ Leaf
Terrance Ferguson
Jarrett Allen


Guys I go back and forth on(wouldn't be upset, also wouldn't be excited)
Harry Giles
Luke Kennard
Ike Anigbogu

Guys I don't want in the first:
BAM
Hartenstein
Patton
Justin Jackson

Just curious. What do you see in BAM that you don't like?

Not a fan of his offensive game tbh. Seems very basic and little to no range, and I don't have much hope that it will improve(which I want my centers to atleast have a decent mid range game). Even though he had great offensive rebounding numbers, I'm not sold on his ability as a defensive rebounder or a rim protector. He can also tend to take plays off although that doesn't concern me as much. I think he has potential but I'm not sold at all that he will reach it.

[drone3]

My current top 3

#1 - Hartenstein
#2 - Frank Jackson
#4 - Allen

[Fotis St]

My current top 3

#1 - Hartenstein
#2 - Frank Jackson
#4 - Allen

#1 Hartenstein (Potential Moblie Stretch 5 with great size, motor,NBA Ready body and only 19 years old)
#2 John Collins (reminds me of Myles Turner-good rebounder with mid range game and 74.5 % FT )
#3 Semi Ojeleye (enforcer, SG/SF/PF, NBA Ready body, Crowder like)

[midranger]

I'm not saying it can't happen, but someone would have to show me at least one example of a player who played 30+ minutes with a steal+block of <1 who went on to be a good defender in the NBA before a believe Semi will be a plus defender.

[drone3]

My current top 3

#1 - Hartenstein
#2 - Frank Jackson
#4 - Allen

#1 Hartenstein (Potential Moblie Stretch 5 with great size, motor,NBA Ready body and only 19 years old)
#2 John Collins (reminds me of Myles Turner-good rebounder with mid range game and 74.5 % FT )
#3 Semi Ojeleye (enforcer, SG/SF/PF, NBA Ready body, Crowder like)

Miami need a PF I'm pretty sure they will either pick up Collins or Leaf.

[drone3]

Top 11 picks look pretty set in stone. 12-16 is harder to figure out, who do you think they will draft before us?

#12 - Pistons
#13 - Nuggets
#14 - Heat
#15 - Blazers
#16 - Bulls

[Baddy Chuck]

Top 11 picks look pretty set in stone. 12-16 is harder to figure out, who do you think they will draft before us?

#12 - Pistons
#13 - Nuggets
#14 - Heat
#15 - Blazers
#16 - Bulls

The only one I feel comfortable saying in that range would be Mitchell.