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2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread IV

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Re: 2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread IV 

Post#21 » by eagereyez » Sat May 27, 2017 7:05 pm

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First video of Jackson's of this user's series on prospects. Of course his shot looks great when it's going in, but my goodness, he misses terribly in some of these.

He knocked down a lot of wide open warm-up shots to bring up his 3P%. That happened because teams started giving him the Tony Allen treatment when he was <30% on the season. Just look at all the space he had in those first couple of clips.

According to Laker Film Room he shot 50% on wide open 3s, 18.5% on contested 3s, and 0% on well contested 3s.

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Post#22 » by LloydFree » Sat May 27, 2017 7:47 pm

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First video of Jackson's of this user's series on prospects. Of course his shot looks great when it's going in, but my goodness, he misses terribly in some of these.

He knocked down a lot of wide open warm-up shots to bring up his 3P%. That happened because teams started giving him the Tony Allen treatment when he was <30% on the season. Just look at all the space he had in those first couple of clips.

According to Laker Film Room he shot 50% on wide open 3s, 18.5% on contested 3s, and 0% on well contested 3s.

So he makes 50% of his open 3's... and this is what happens when you contest his 3's...

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Post#23 » by Negrodamus » Sat May 27, 2017 8:52 pm



Another list of videos, this time Sindarius Thornwell. Just doesn't make too many foolish plays and is a winner. Probably the only reason they made it to the Final Four.
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Post#24 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat May 27, 2017 8:54 pm

Negrodamus is going to gloat so hard if we draft Tatum at 3 then trade to get back to 10 and draft Mitchell lol. Everyone better get ready to bow down to him :lol: Look at all of this on Tatum.
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Post#25 » by Negrodamus » Sat May 27, 2017 8:59 pm

I'll be extremely pumped, but I cannot gloat anymore. After the Embiid injury, I'm pretty sure I was team draft Exum. So, for every time I'm right about a prospect, I know there are many other times that it has absolutely blown up in my face.
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Post#26 » by cksdayoff » Sat May 27, 2017 9:01 pm

i just cant get down with tatum. he's gonna be a solid pro, i don't think he'll be a star though.
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Post#27 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sat May 27, 2017 9:02 pm

That dude is not a reliable insider.
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Post#28 » by Negrodamus » Sat May 27, 2017 9:11 pm

LongLiveHinkie wrote:That dude is not a reliable insider.


Why do you say that? Not saying you're wrong, but he seems like he has decent credentials.
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Post#29 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sat May 27, 2017 9:15 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:That dude is not a reliable insider.


Why do you say that? Not saying you're wrong, but he seems like he has decent credentials.


He's been wrong on a lot of things before, and he does this with a bunch of sports too.

Jordan Schultz Super Insider, who brings you inside info from executives of all 4 major sports! I mean, please.

Not one piece of info he's ever given out has ever been on point and he's been wrong multiple times.
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Post#30 » by HotelVitale » Sat May 27, 2017 9:28 pm

Negrodamus wrote: Another list of videos, this time Sindarius Thornwell. Just doesn't make too many foolish plays and is a winner. Probably the only reason they made it to the Final Four.

I respect your beating the drum for Thornwell but that video's a laugher. It should be titled 'Sindarius Thornwell with a sick basically wide open dunk in which Malik Monk is sort of next to him!'
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Post#31 » by Negrodamus » Sat May 27, 2017 9:30 pm

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Negrodamus wrote: Another list of videos, this time Sindarius Thornwell. Just doesn't make too many foolish plays and is a winner. Probably the only reason they made it to the Final Four.

I respect your beating the drum for Thornwell but that video's a laugher. It should be titled 'Sindarius Thornwell with a sick basically wide open dunk in which Malik Monk is sort of next to him!'


Well, I wasn't talking about just that specific video. The playlists don't format on this site, so it just shows the one video. If you go to that channel and watch all the Sindarius Thornwell videos, you'll know what I'm talking about.
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Post#32 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sat May 27, 2017 9:50 pm

If I'm picking in the top 3, I want to draft a guy I think has go-to 20-25 ppg scoring potential. Especially with the way our roster is constructed. You need big-time scorers to win titles and unless it's a rare circumstance, if I'm taking a guy in the top 3 who maxes out at 15 ppg, they probably weren't worthy of the pick. Unless they are so incredibly amazing as defenders, passers, or rebounders. Especially when you're talking wings or guards, I think for a center that might be ok.

This Sixers team needs a scorer. Problem is, outside Fultz, there are questions. I don't think Jackson will be one unless he improves that jumper. If he does, I think he can be that 20ppg guy. Tatum could be, but I question his athleticism against NBA defenders. Monk could be, but I worry about him creating his own shot. That's an incredibly important skill. Even with Simmons, to be worthy of a top 3 pick, you can't be a player who requires others to get you shots. You need to be able to create on your own.

I just think at 3, the Sixers are really in a tough spot. I still advocate trading the pick if there is a deal to be made.
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Post#33 » by Negrodamus » Sat May 27, 2017 10:01 pm



Mitchell completely shuts down his man in this game. He is top 3 in defense in this draft. On top of that, he hits uncontested jumpers at a ridiculous rate. If we are using Embiid and Simmons as our creators, it makes sense to bring Mitchell on board. I think he's just scratched the surface at what he could be on the offensive end.

Side note: Louisville is miserable at offense besides Snider, Adel, and Mitchell.
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Post#34 » by Mik317 » Sat May 27, 2017 10:35 pm

keep up the links and tweets guys. I really really appreciate it as I am awful at finding stuff
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Post#35 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sat May 27, 2017 10:40 pm

Sixers to work out Fox.
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Post#36 » by No-Man » Sat May 27, 2017 10:45 pm

I hope the 76ers just draft a bunch of potential 3&D guys in the 2nd round with all those picks, of course Thornwell or Hart if they are there, but also, Jeremy Morgan, Cyrille Eliezer-Vanerot, Sterling Brown, Tyler Dorsey, Davon Reed, LJ Peak, Jabari Bird, JaJuan Johnson, Charles Cooke,... draft them all, if only 1 pans out you've won already
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Re: 2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread IV 

Post#37 » by eagereyez » Sat May 27, 2017 11:05 pm

LongLiveHinkie wrote:Sixers to work out Fox.

Any word on a DSJ workout? Jackson?
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Post#38 » by jaxsontend » Sat May 27, 2017 11:44 pm

this may be worthless information but BC came into where i work today. he was clearly distracted and not eager to talk with the person ringing him up (me) about roster construction, understandably but... i said, apropos of nothing and without first acknowledging i knew who he was, "ya gotta trade down for 5 and 10 if you can" to which he responded with an entirely blank, or maybe annoyed, face (again understandably but i couldnt help myself bc i think about what i wish i could tell him to do at least 15 hours a week) and said 'a lot of ppl have ideas about what to do' and politely chuckled. he definitely did not give any reaction that indicated to me 5 and 10 was a consideration/possibility. i then said 'ive got to admit ive been fantasizing about this draft for like a year' and he said 'dont get too excited' in a sort of fatherly way.

i will probably get fired if i try to talk to him again. i guess if typing this post somehow gets back to him, it could get me fired as well, but then at least we'd know someone in the sixers' FO is reading this ****.

anyway, probably nothing really to glean here but it was a bit surreal
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Re: 2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread IV 

Post#39 » by LloydFree » Sun May 28, 2017 12:19 am

Kobblehead wrote:Frank Jackson just had some minor foot surgery. He'll probably be there in the 2nd. I've yet to come around on him.

I've been waiting to see your top 30. The early entry deadline passed this past week, so all of the eligible guys are set.

I'd also like to see some other's, especially Philly finest, HanktheTank, unbreakable and oldschool's big boards or mocks.
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Re: 2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread IV 

Post#40 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sun May 28, 2017 12:19 am

eagereyez wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:Sixers to work out Fox.

Any word on a DSJ workout? Jackson?


Dennis Smith either has or will work out. No word on Jackson yet.

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