2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3

M-C-G · Post #261 » by **M-C-G** » Tue May 30, 2017 3:45 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Kobi Simmons is an interesting guy in the 2nd round. He's got definite 1st round talent, but he's just so raw and lacks a lot of intangible qualities. Could be a swing-for-the-fences type guy at #48 where you could stick him in the D-league for his 1st and maybe even 2nd year.

My concern with him, looking solely at the scouting reports, he doesn't seem to be improving like you would be expecting for a 20 year old (still really young, but that is where you want to see more development)...It's the same concern I have with Rabb. If Kobi went back to school, I feel like you'd find more holes than we already know about.

Oh his bust potential is certainly pretty sky high. He's got a lot of Tony Wroten written all over him. But with the 48th pick in the draft? I can easily take that chance on a 6'4, athletic PG who I pray can find his jumpshot in the D-league.

Yeah, I'd rather just use the pick on Frank Mason if he is there. Less upside, sure, but I think he will have a pretty good career.

Rockmaninoff · Post #262 » by **Rockmaninoff** » Tue May 30, 2017 3:46 pm

Badgerlander wrote:

Read on Twitter

Quinton Hooker, Canyon Barry, and Michael Ojo leading my UDFA list atm

I like:

Malcolm Hill
Luke Kornet
J.J. Frazier
Derek Willis
Davon Reed
Derrick Walton
Jalen Moore

Lots of good UDFAs this year.

Badgerlander · Post #263 » by **Badgerlander** » Tue May 30, 2017 3:49 pm

Rockmaninoff wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:

Read on Twitter

Quinton Hooker, Canyon Barry, and Michael Ojo leading my UDFA list atm

I like:

Malcolm Hill
Luke Kornet
J.J. Frazier
Derek Willis
Davon Reed
Derrick Walton
Jalen Moore

Lots of good UDFAs this year.

Peter Jok too. Good year to start a D League franchise

M-C-G · Post #264 » by **M-C-G** » Tue May 30, 2017 3:55 pm

Badgerlander wrote:
Rockmaninoff wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:

Read on Twitter

Quinton Hooker, Canyon Barry, and Michael Ojo leading my UDFA list atm

I like:

Malcolm Hill
Luke Kornet
J.J. Frazier
Derek Willis
Davon Reed
Derrick Walton
Jalen Moore

Lots of good UDFAs this year.

Peter Jok too. Good year to start a D League franchise

Do we know how that works? Do we have to sign two guys to two way contracts and then a bunch of other guys to fill out the roster, or do we partner with a couple of teams to build out the roster?

emunney · Post #265 » by **emunney** » Tue May 30, 2017 3:59 pm

M-C-G wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:
Rockmaninoff wrote:
I like:

Malcolm Hill
Luke Kornet
J.J. Frazier
Derek Willis
Davon Reed
Derrick Walton
Jalen Moore

Lots of good UDFAs this year.

Peter Jok too. Good year to start a D League franchise

Do we know how that works? Do we have to sign two guys to two way contracts and then a bunch of other guys to fill out the roster, or do we partner with a couple of teams to build out the roster?

We'll likely sign two guys to two way contracts, three guys to camp deals (which will give our D-League team exclusive D-League rights, but they could still sign with another NBA team, kind of like a NFL practice squad deal), and then there will be the D-League draft, then maybe tryouts.

Fotis St · Post #266 » by **Fotis St** » Tue May 30, 2017 4:01 pm

Badgerlander wrote:
Rockmaninoff wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:
Quinton Hooker, Canyon Barry, and Michael Ojo leading my UDFA list atm

I like:

Malcolm Hill
Luke Kornet
J.J. Frazier
Derek Willis
Davon Reed
Derrick Walton
Jalen Moore

Lots of good UDFAs this year.

Peter Jok too. Good year to start a D League franchise

Peter Jok is my favourite ... what a sleeper, Khris Middleton all over him. I would sign him undrafted a rookie deal and I would give him 15 -17th roster spot what a steal.

If no interesting PG is left at #48 I would even draft Jok with my 2nd round pick

This discussion deserves its own thread

emunney · Post #267 » by **emunney** » Tue May 30, 2017 4:04 pm

Kadeem Allen, Deonte Burton

Jimmmycrackcorn · Post #268 » by **Jimmmycrackcorn** » Tue May 30, 2017 4:31 pm

M-C-G wrote:
Yeah, I'd rather just use the pick on Frank Mason if he is there. Less upside, sure, but I think he will have a pretty good career.

YES

Badgerlander · Post #269 » by **Badgerlander** » Tue May 30, 2017 4:56 pm

No workouts seems weird

M-C-G · Post #270 » by **M-C-G** » Tue May 30, 2017 4:59 pm

Badgerlander wrote:No workouts seems weird

Not a great time to be without your actual GM. Hopefully they are up to something

Gam · Post #271 » by **Gam** » Tue May 30, 2017 5:01 pm

Another UDFA I'd like us to sign is is Bronson Koenig, I'm not much of a UW fan so don't call me a homer either, but the dude can straight up shoot and is great under pressure. I think he'd be a great 3rd string PG and he's an especially great fit on a team with Giannis on it.

M-C-G · Post #272 » by **M-C-G** » Tue May 30, 2017 5:14 pm

Gam wrote:Another UDFA I'd like us to sign is is Bronson Koenig, I'm not much of a UW fan so don't call me a homer either, but the dude can straight up shoot and is great under pressure. I think he'd be a great 3rd string PG and he's an especially great fit on a team with Giannis on it.

I thought he was going to become a very good player but never quite take that big jump I was hoping for the last two years.

Gam · Post #273 » by **Gam** » Tue May 30, 2017 5:56 pm

M-C-G wrote:
Gam wrote:Another UDFA I'd like us to sign is is Bronson Koenig, I'm not much of a UW fan so don't call me a homer either, but the dude can straight up shoot and is great under pressure. I think he'd be a great 3rd string PG and he's an especially great fit on a team with Giannis on it.

I thought he was going to become a very good player but never quite take that big jump I was hoping for the last two years.

His jumps between SO and JR and JR and SR years were both pretty damn impressive.

freewhitemoon · Post #274 » by **freewhitemoon** » Tue May 30, 2017 6:01 pm

Read on Twitter

If only we had guys to offer... Zach Collins could be in play

M-C-G · Post #275 » by **M-C-G** » Tue May 30, 2017 6:03 pm

Gam wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
Gam wrote:Another UDFA I'd like us to sign is is Bronson Koenig, I'm not much of a UW fan so don't call me a homer either, but the dude can straight up shoot and is great under pressure. I think he'd be a great 3rd string PG and he's an especially great fit on a team with Giannis on it.

I thought he was going to become a very good player but never quite take that big jump I was hoping for the last two years.

His jumps between SO and JR and JR and SR years were both pretty damn impressive.

Would you elaborate on what jumps you saw from the Jr to Sr year? I saw a guy doing your pretty typical progression that you see with most 4 year players and increased usage against their competition. Maybe I am being unfair because I expected more?

Badgerlander · Post #276 » by **Badgerlander** » Tue May 30, 2017 6:06 pm

freewhitemoon wrote:

Read on Twitter

If only we had guys to offer... Zach Collins could be in play

sucks having the 12th pick in an 11 player draft

Fotis St · Post #277 » by **Fotis St** » Tue May 30, 2017 6:21 pm

Maybe Donoval Mitchell will be there too.

Khris for Tobias + Baynes #12

Not saying I would do it. But this is probably what it would take to get #12

Gam · Post #278 » by **Gam** » Tue May 30, 2017 6:32 pm

Fotis St wrote:Maybe Donoval Mitchell will be there too.

Khris for Tobias + Baynes #12

That's not enough. I'd ask for them to take Henson and give Stanley Johnson instead of Baynes and a 2019 top 10 protected 1st.

Matches Malone · Post #279 » by **Matches Malone** » Tue May 30, 2017 6:35 pm

Gam wrote:
Fotis St wrote:Maybe Donoval Mitchell will be there too.

Khris for Tobias + Baynes #12

That's not enough. I'd ask for them to take Henson and give Stanley Johnson instead of Baynes and a 2019 top 10 protected 1st.

I'm asking for the moon if I'm trading Khris and only moving up to the 12th spot, where theoretically, the draft drops off just before that selection. #12, Stanley Johnson, future pick unprotected or lightly protected is a start.

Fotis St · Post #280 » by **Fotis St** » Tue May 30, 2017 6:37 pm

Gam wrote:
Fotis St wrote:Maybe Donoval Mitchell will be there too.

Khris for Tobias + Baynes #12

That's not enough. I'd ask for them to take Henson and give Stanley Johnson instead of Baynes and a 2019 top 10 protected 1st.

No, wait, you got it wrong. They trade Tobias to give Stanley Johnson playing time. Take out Johnson and Henson, 2019 pick looks good too.