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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#381 » by Billy Goat » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:51 pm

blueNorange wrote:tristan thompson has got to be the worst starting center in basketball, if his best strength is defense then have him come off the bench.

he's also 6'9" which is useless. he's lucky to be riding coattails of lebron/kyrie


he's not even close to being the worst(he's actually pretty good) and there's no chance they'd move him for Melo.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#382 » by blueNorange » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:45 pm

Billy Goat wrote:
blueNorange wrote:tristan thompson has got to be the worst starting center in basketball, if his best strength is defense then have him come off the bench.

he's also 6'9" which is useless. he's lucky to be riding coattails of lebron/kyrie


he's not even close to being the worst(he's actually pretty good) and there's no chance they'd move him for Melo.

he's not a starter, he's too small.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#383 » by Marty McFly » Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:47 pm

The_Special_One wrote:Cavs are going after Paul George instead.

right. and how do you see that working out exactly?
Guano wrote:Fourni3r forgetting he has Bob cousy handles

Woodsanity wrote:Imagine trusting a team with World B Flat on it without Lebron keeping him in check.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#384 » by NoLayupRule » Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:47 pm

people seem so desperate to find a move for melo that they forget were supposed to make the Knicks better in the process

Why in hell would we want Thompson?

Hes a solid player for sure but not a piece we need going forward
We dont need an undersized center on this team who can only shoot from the paint

no, even Love makes more sense than Thompson and he doesnt make sense except to move to another team


if were moving melo its to get young core players and Thompson aint that
he's expensive for what he is and he's limited as hell

if we were a championship team we could use him

but we would just be lowering his value and moving him again in 6 months
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#385 » by ChaosHamster » Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:04 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:people seem so desperate to find a move for melo that they forget were supposed to make the Knicks better in the process

Why in hell would we want Thompson?

Hes a solid player for sure but not a piece we need going forward
We dont need an undersized center on this team who can only shoot from the paint

no, even Love makes more sense than Thompson and he doesnt make sense except to move to another team


if were moving melo its to get young core players and Thompson aint that
he's expensive for what he is and he's limited as hell

if we were a championship team we could use him

but we would just be lowering his value and moving him again in 6 months


Team without Melo is already a better team (not literally). That's why they are so desperate.

Melo doesn't fit the rebuild at all.

2nd round pick or Melo staying, you choose 2nd round pick, if those are the only two options..

Of course you hope Melo still has value, opened up his NMC teams list.. But that's just gravy.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#386 » by FixTheKnicks » Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:26 pm

Knicks:
Out- Melo, O'Quinn
In- Harris, Rubio, No. 12

Cavs:
Out- Love, Thompson, Shumpert
In- Melo, Drummond

Wolves:
Out- Rubio, Dieng
In- Thompson, Shumpert

Pistons:
Out- Drummond, Harris, No. 12
In- Love, O'Quinn, Dieng

Who says no? Knicks get formidable return for Melo. Cavs retool with 2 all stars. Wolves get 2 starters. Detroit adds Love and saves 12 million in cap.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#387 » by NoLayupRule » Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:32 pm

ChaosHamster wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:people seem so desperate to find a move for melo that they forget were supposed to make the Knicks better in the process

Why in hell would we want Thompson?

Hes a solid player for sure but not a piece we need going forward
We dont need an undersized center on this team who can only shoot from the paint

no, even Love makes more sense than Thompson and he doesnt make sense except to move to another team


if were moving melo its to get young core players and Thompson aint that
he's expensive for what he is and he's limited as hell

if we were a championship team we could use him

but we would just be lowering his value and moving him again in 6 months


Team without Melo is already a better team (not literally). That's why they are so desperate.

Melo doesn't fit the rebuild at all.

2nd round pick or Melo staying, you choose 2nd round pick, if those are the only two options..

Of course you hope Melo still has value, opened up his NMC teams list.. But that's just gravy.

thats the stupidest thing Ive read in a week


just because Melo has had his value significantly reduced doesnt mean you give him away for nothing

i can't abide this kind of thinking
its moronic
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#388 » by NoLayupRule » Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:33 pm

FixTheKnicks wrote:Knicks:
Out- Melo, O'Quinn
In- Harris, Rubio, No. 12

Cavs:
Out- Love, Thompson, Shumpert
In- Melo, Drummond

Wolves:
Out- Rubio, Dieng
In- Thompson, Shumpert

Pistons:
Out- Drummond, Harris, No. 12
In- Love, O'Quinn, Dieng

Who says no? Knicks get formidable return for Melo. Cavs retool with 2 all stars. Wolves get 2 starters. Detroit adds Love and saves 12 million in cap.

perhaps

I dont think Detroit moves Drummond for Love though
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#389 » by ChaosHamster » Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:45 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:
ChaosHamster wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:people seem so desperate to find a move for melo that they forget were supposed to make the Knicks better in the process

Why in hell would we want Thompson?

Hes a solid player for sure but not a piece we need going forward
We dont need an undersized center on this team who can only shoot from the paint

no, even Love makes more sense than Thompson and he doesnt make sense except to move to another team


if were moving melo its to get young core players and Thompson aint that
he's expensive for what he is and he's limited as hell

if we were a championship team we could use him

but we would just be lowering his value and moving him again in 6 months


Team without Melo is already a better team (not literally). That's why they are so desperate.

Melo doesn't fit the rebuild at all.

2nd round pick or Melo staying, you choose 2nd round pick, if those are the only two options..

Of course you hope Melo still has value, opened up his NMC teams list.. But that's just gravy.

thats the stupidest thing Ive read in a week


just because Melo has had his value significantly reduced doesnt mean you give him away for nothing

i can't abide this kind of thinking
its moronic


Again, answer this simple question: rebuilding team is better with Melo, or without him?

Using your phrasing, its absolutely moronic to think rebuilding team has any use in Melo. He will still demand his shots, he will win you a couple of games by dropping 30+, so you again.. will not be as bad to get a top5 pick, and your younger guys will get less opportunities on offense.

And value isn't the issue here. Its mainly NMC. If Melo still has the same teams on his list (LA, CLE, BOS), your hands are tied, if only CLE wants him, and that will most likely be the case, you just take what they offer, if its Love - great, if its not, you try and find a 3rd or 4th team which will take Shump, Frye or whoever they will throw in to match salaries. And hopefully you will also get some picks from Cavs.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#390 » by sushibear » Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:50 pm

blueNorange wrote:
Billy Goat wrote:
blueNorange wrote:tristan thompson has got to be the worst starting center in basketball, if his best strength is defense then have him come off the bench.

he's also 6'9" which is useless. he's lucky to be riding coattails of lebron/kyrie


he's not even close to being the worst(he's actually pretty good) and there's no chance they'd move him for Melo.

he's not a starter, he's too small.


God dayum not even for Tristan Thompson. You know melo game have dramatically declined if posters on here say Tristan thompson is better than melo lmfao.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#391 » by Jose7 » Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:57 pm

Melo had a bad year and still scored nearly 1700 points...his efficiency will go up immensely playing with Lebron and kyrie...defensively he's always been better guarding 4s..

If you can swing a deal with great assets coming our way, multiple picks and a young talent, sure. If not, you let it play out.. stop undervaluing Melo at the 4..he played 74 games too..
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Post#392 » by Rotten Apple » Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:17 pm

He chose a 2nd round pick over Melo :lol:
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Post#393 » by Nutty Nats Fan » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:18 am

FixTheKnicks wrote:Knicks:
Out- Melo, O'Quinn
In- Harris, Rubio, No. 12

Cavs:
Out- Love, Thompson, Shumpert
In- Melo, Drummond

Wolves:
Out- Rubio, Dieng
In- Thompson, Shumpert

Pistons:
Out- Drummond, Harris, No. 12
In- Love, O'Quinn, Dieng

Who says no? Knicks get formidable return for Melo. Cavs retool with 2 all stars. Wolves get 2 starters. Detroit adds Love and saves 12 million in cap.

Why would the Knicks want Rubio? He isn't a rebuilding piece.
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Post#394 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:34 am

NoLayupRule wrote:
ChaosHamster wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:people seem so desperate to find a move for melo that they forget were supposed to make the Knicks better in the process

Why in hell would we want Thompson?

Hes a solid player for sure but not a piece we need going forward
We dont need an undersized center on this team who can only shoot from the paint

no, even Love makes more sense than Thompson and he doesnt make sense except to move to another team


if were moving melo its to get young core players and Thompson aint that
he's expensive for what he is and he's limited as hell

if we were a championship team we could use him

but we would just be lowering his value and moving him again in 6 months


Team without Melo is already a better team (not literally). That's why they are so desperate.

Melo doesn't fit the rebuild at all.

2nd round pick or Melo staying, you choose 2nd round pick, if those are the only two options..

Of course you hope Melo still has value, opened up his NMC teams list.. But that's just gravy.

thats the stupidest thing Ive read in a week


just because Melo has had his value significantly reduced doesnt mean you give him away for nothing

i can't abide this kind of thinking
its moronic


1. Tsk, tsk, tsk, no name calling. (KT's memo :D )

2. "Melo has had his value significantly reduced"? I'm not sure I like the way that's worded. Melo is what Melo is so whatever reduction his market value has suffered is solely because of who he is (and is not) as a player today and not due to outside forces you seem to suggest.

3. Finally, perhaps a second round draft pick is hyperbole to underscore a point, the point is well taken. Perhaps we can get a late first round and a bunch of second round picks or some combination of young players/expiring/picks that would bring us some youth and flexibility moving forward. Melo on the Knicks is a distraction and a drag on where we want to go. Simple addition by subtraction.
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Post#395 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:05 am

:lol: Ouch!

Hey, don't shoot the messenger.

http://www.theonion.com/article/carmelo-anthony-confident-he-can-still-help-conten-56103

Carmelo Anthony Confident He Can Still Help Contender Flame Out In First Round

NEW YORK—Insisting that he’s capable of reaching the same heights as in the past, small forward Carmelo Anthony told reporters Wednesday that he is confident he can still help a contender flame out in the first round. “I may not be in my prime anymore, but I know I still have what it takes to help a team secure a high playoff seed and then get unexpectedly trounced in the first round,” said Anthony, who claimed he has not lost the skills to make an All-Star game, get fans’ hopes up in the regular season, and then implode against an inferior opponent before even reaching the conference championship. “Even if I’m not the number one option, I can help drag down a promising player by dominating the ball with constant one-on-one isolations and be a defensive liability that makes it impossible to beat a true championship contender in the playoffs. Everyone knows I still have plenty of postseason disappointment left in the tank.” Anthony also promised to bring invaluable veteran leadership to any team’s locker room arguments.
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Post#396 » by Rotten Apple » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:29 am

Wingo you're better than posting Onion articles.
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Post#397 » by SportsGuy8 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:32 am

HarthorneWingo wrote::lol: Ouch!

Hey, don't shoot the messenger.

http://www.theonion.com/article/carmelo-anthony-confident-he-can-still-help-conten-56103

Carmelo Anthony Confident He Can Still Help Contender Flame Out In First Round

NEW YORK—Insisting that he’s capable of reaching the same heights as in the past, small forward Carmelo Anthony told reporters Wednesday that he is confident he can still help a contender flame out in the first round. “I may not be in my prime anymore, but I know I still have what it takes to help a team secure a high playoff seed and then get unexpectedly trounced in the first round,” said Anthony, who claimed he has not lost the skills to make an All-Star game, get fans’ hopes up in the regular season, and then implode against an inferior opponent before even reaching the conference championship. “Even if I’m not the number one option, I can help drag down a promising player by dominating the ball with constant one-on-one isolations and be a defensive liability that makes it impossible to beat a true championship contender in the playoffs. Everyone knows I still have plenty of postseason disappointment left in the tank.” Anthony also promised to bring invaluable veteran leadership to any team’s locker room arguments.

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Post#398 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:02 pm

Rotten Apple wrote:Wingo you're better than posting Onion articles.


Just for shyts and giggles.
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Post#399 » by Sark » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:41 pm

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Post#400 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:07 pm

Sark wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/j-r-smith-likes-picture-carmelo-anthony-cavaliers-uniform-161640945.html


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