NBA 2017 Draft thread. 5th pick and 10th pick.

[jbent87]

The hilarious thing about the 5+10 for 3 rumor is that Sixers fans are almost universally for it and nearly EVERYONE else--from Kings fans to Woj--are both against it and say the value is way off.

I'd imagine the Kings would consider using 5+10 to move up, but there better be a whole lot more coming back than 3.

I'm assuming Okafor goes back to you guys in this hypothetical deal.

[rpa]

I'm assuming Okafor goes back to you guys in this hypothetical deal.

Okafor holds zero value to the Kings. He's an awful player, but worse still, he plays center. The Kings are already grooming 2 young centers and have a quality veteran backup.

[City of Trees]

The hilarious thing about the 5+10 for 3 rumor is that Sixers fans are almost universally for it and nearly EVERYONE else--from Kings fans to Woj--are both against it and say the value is way off.

I'd imagine the Kings would consider using 5+10 to move up, but there better be a whole lot more coming back than 3.

I'm assuming Okafor goes back to you guys in this hypothetical deal.

More stuff that doesn't add up for Sac. Kings have two young centers already and their vet Koufos. WCS is better than Okafor and Vlade loves Papagiannis (#13 lotto pick this past season). How does Okafor close any gaps. Again, it's my belief this is all stuff that Philly likes, not Sac.... But crazier things have happened I suppose.

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[SacKingZZZ]

The hilarious thing about the 5+10 for 3 rumor is that Sixers fans are almost universally for it and nearly EVERYONE else--from Kings fans to Woj--are both against it and say the value is way off.

I'd imagine the Kings would consider using 5+10 to move up, but there better be a whole lot more coming back than 3.

While the value is still not equal, if they sent some 2nd rounders with 3 I'd be for it if the mocks of who will be available are correct. I'd easily take some of the names listed in the upper half of the 2nd round over some of the names speculated in the 10-15 range. I could be another genius looking move down move for Vlade.

[rpa]

While the value is still not equal, if they sent some 2nd rounders with 3 I'd be for it if the mocks of who will be available are correct. I'd easily take some of the names listed in the upper half of the 2nd round over some of the names speculated in the 10-15 range. I could be another genius looking move down move for Vlade.

2nds don't bridge the gap--not even close. As Woj/Marks pointed out 5/34 is closer value to moving up for 3.

I'm not listening to a 5+10 offer if our 2019 isn't coming back along with 3.

[City of Trees]

The hilarious thing about the 5+10 for 3 rumor is that Sixers fans are almost universally for it and nearly EVERYONE else--from Kings fans to Woj--are both against it and say the value is way off.

I'd imagine the Kings would consider using 5+10 to move up, but there better be a whole lot more coming back than 3.

While the value is still not equal, if they sent some 2nd rounders with 3 I'd be for it if the mocks of who will be available are correct. I'd easily take some of the names listed in the upper half of the 2nd round over some of the names speculated in the 10-15 range. I could be another genius looking move down move for Vlade.

I'd rather fill my rebuilding roster with lotto picks instead of 2nd rounders.

IMO there is too much talent at 5 to sacrifice 10. Use 34 to fill your back up PG need in Mason III and call it a day. Add high upside lotto picks and don't get cute.

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[jeffjtk1234]

Just wait at 5. One of Fox ball or Jackson may be there, and if not, take Tatum and be happy you have a your SF of the future.


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[SacKingZZZ]

While the value is still not equal, if they sent some 2nd rounders with 3 I'd be for it if the mocks of who will be available are correct. I'd easily take some of the names listed in the upper half of the 2nd round over some of the names speculated in the 10-15 range. I could be another genius looking move down move for Vlade.

2nds don't bridge the gap--not even close. As Woj/Marks pointed out 5/34 is closer value to moving up for 3.

I'm not listening to a 5+10 offer if our 2019 isn't coming back along with 3.

Yeah, maybe even turning it into a pick swap in 2019 could be an option for them.

[rpa]

Just wait at 5. One of Fox ball or Jackson may be there, and if not, take Tatum and be happy you have a your SF of the future.


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Yup, if Isaac is locked into 4 (and Fultz at 1) then we're guaranteed one of Jackson, Ball, or Fox at 5. If Isaac isn't then we're still guaranteed that list + DSJ.

The Kings are in a position of strength with 2 top 10 picks and, under nearly every scenario, a good prospect available at the first 1.

[jeffjtk1234]

Just wait at 5. One of Fox ball or Jackson may be there, and if not, take Tatum and be happy you have a your SF of the future.


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Yup, if Isaac is locked into 4 (and Fultz at 1) then we're guaranteed one of Jackson, Ball, or Fox at 5. If Isaac isn't then we're still guaranteed that list + DSJ.

The Kings are in a position of strength with 2 top 10 picks and, under nearly every scenario, a good prospect available at the first 1.

Exactly. They would be stupid to trade 5+10 for 3. 5+10 for 1 though...sign me up.


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[SacKingZZZ]

The hilarious thing about the 5+10 for 3 rumor is that Sixers fans are almost universally for it and nearly EVERYONE else--from Kings fans to Woj--are both against it and say the value is way off.

I'd imagine the Kings would consider using 5+10 to move up, but there better be a whole lot more coming back than 3.

While the value is still not equal, if they sent some 2nd rounders with 3 I'd be for it if the mocks of who will be available are correct. I'd easily take some of the names listed in the upper half of the 2nd round over some of the names speculated in the 10-15 range. I could be another genius looking move down move for Vlade.

I'd rather fill my rebuilding roster with lotto picks instead of 2nd rounders.

IMO there is too much talent at 5 to sacrifice 10. Use 34 to fill your back up PG need in Mason III and call it a day. Add high upside lotto picks and don't get cute.

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There are serious advantages to drafting players in the 2nd round though. You can do like they did with Isaiah Cousins last year, let them stay in the minors while working on their games where they don't take spots up on your bench or cap, and you don't have to worry about endless call ups and what not.

And who knows obviously who will be available at 10 or especially the 2nd round, but if you can snag players like Swanigan, Frank Jackson, Semi Ojeleye, and or an eventual free fall candidate of Whiteside proportions (Anunoby? Giles? Rabb?). I think that puts a lot of talent in your lap that you can let develop outside of the confines of the 9-10 rotation spots you have available.

[rpa]

There are serious advantages to drafting players in the 2nd round though.

There are some serious advantages to drafting players in the 1st round: they tend to be far more talented.

[sacking123]

I just can't see where 5/10 for 3 works. Particularly without getting our '19 pick back.
As mentioned already, wait it out and see what the options are when we're on the clock for 5. It really just reeks of 76ers not liking their spot at 3 and wanting to get more assets and the player they really like on top of it and the Kings provide that the best.


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[SacKingZZZ]

There are serious advantages to drafting players in the 2nd round though.

There are some serious advantages to drafting players in the 1st round: they tend to be far more talented.

Tend to. But each year is a bit different. Sometimes you get a kind of solid, but albeit talent muck from pick 9-11 on. The main names you see floating around the 10th right now are either shooting guards or bigs. I think this draft is a bit like the last one but maybe even deeper with talent in the higher portion of the 2nd round.

[codydaze]

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[jeffjtk1234]

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Lmao we aren't doing that


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[kalenclayton]

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Well, this looks fantastic for our team this offseason. We are visiting with everyone. Take that, Chas Ford (idiot).

[VeganKingsFan]

I am softening my stance against taking Frank Mason III with the 34th pick. I didn't really like his demeanor, his lackadaisical effort when the ball wasn't in his hands, the fact that he's a 23 year old senior playing against younger players, and not to mention his size. However, I'd consider his character OK enough and his explosive scoring ability and shooting (47% 3P, 62% EFG) would be a nice spark plug off the bench as a good backup point guard. Him working out for a second time with the Kings tells me they were surprised by how good he was in the first workout and wanted to see that it wasn't a fluke.

[kalenclayton]

I am softening my stance against taking Frank Mason III with the 34th pick. I didn't really like his demeanor, his lackadaisical effort when the ball wasn't in his hands, the fact that he's a 23 year old senior playing against younger players, and not to mention his size. However, I'd consider his character OK enough and his explosive scoring ability and shooting (47% 3P, 62% EFG) would be a nice spark plug off the bench as a good backup point guard. Him working out for a second time with the Kings tells me they were surprised by how good he was in the first workout and wanted to see that it wasn't a fluke.

I actually really like the guy. He was solid as hell in college and I think he has some real NBA skills. His size is what scares me (IT is the exception to the size rule in the NBA). I wouldn't be mad if he was picked at #34 as long as Jordan Bell, Jawun Evans, Josh Hart, and Derrick White (I love this kid) aren't still on the board.

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