Mavericks 2017 Draft #9

[agentofatlas]

The more I listen to the breakdown on all of the prospects I'm really starting to come around on Monk. His game really does fit the Mavs. He's also as explosive as DSJ. His body isn't as NBA ready as DSJ but the skill set is similar. Also doesn't have the injury history that DSJ does. Now if they draft Monk they will definitely have to trade Curry. With Curry's contract situation they may have to trade Curry either way. Most will say that Monk could never play PG but is that really the case? I mean that team also had Fox so Monk never had to play the point but that doesn't mean he can't do it. Worst case scenario he'd be a very explosive SG (although slightly undersized).

If you draft Monk you hope he's Jason Terry 2.0. And if he is then the Mavs should be elated at the return for their pick. He's a scoring combo guard and that's more than fine.

For some reason I think of JR Smith watching Monk.
Is that a fair comparison?

I think it's fair. If he becomes JR Smith then that's a good player to have.

Also you never know with these Kentucky guys. I think Monk has more playmaking potential than JR.

[Mr B]

If you draft Monk you hope he's Jason Terry 2.0. And if he is then the Mavs should be elated at the return for their pick. He's a scoring combo guard and that's more than fine.

For some reason I think of JR Smith watching Monk.
Is that a fair comparison?

I think it's fair. If he becomes JR Smith then that's a good player to have.

Also you never know with these Kentucky guys. I think Monk has more playmaking potential than JR.

Yea he's definitely more of a playmaker than JR Smith. I have heard that comparison before though. I've also heard him compared to Jamal Crawford, although Crawford is 2 inches taller.

[Devassa]

The more I listen to the breakdown on all of the prospects I'm really starting to come around on Monk. His game really does fit the Mavs. He's also as explosive as DSJ. His body isn't as NBA ready as DSJ but the skill set is similar. Also doesn't have the injury history that DSJ does. Now if they draft Monk they will definitely have to trade Curry. With Curry's contract situation they may have to trade Curry either way. Most will say that Monk could never play PG but is that really the case? I mean that team also had Fox so Monk never had to play the point but that doesn't mean he can't do it. Worst case scenario he'd be a very explosive SG (although slightly undersized).

If you draft Monk you hope he's Jason Terry 2.0. And if he is then the Mavs should be elated at the return for their pick. He's a scoring combo guard and that's more than fine.

For some reason I think of JR Smith watching Monk.
Is that a fair comparison?

JR Smith with a brain is a very good player if picked 9th overall

[2011Champs]

I have to wonder what veteran the Mavs are drooling over to trade the pick for? They are probably shopping that pick big time.

[Mr B]

I have to wonder what veteran the Mavs are drooling over to trade the pick for? They are probably shopping that pick big time.

I don't believe they want to trade the pick at all. If anything they are trying to acquire another pick not get rid of the one they have.

[2011Champs]

I have to wonder what veteran the Mavs are drooling over to trade the pick for? They are probably shopping that pick big time.

I don't believe they want to trade the pick at all. If anything they are trying to acquire another pick not get rid of the one they have.

I'm not so sure about that. They might be putting on that front of acting like they care about the draft but if some team dangles the carrot(aka 30 something all star) I bet the Mavs can't resist and pull the trigger.

[Devassa]

I have to wonder what veteran the Mavs are drooling over to trade the pick for? They are probably shopping that pick big time.

I can't imagine they're shopping it much aside from in packages attempting to move up on the draft. This franchise isn't in a state right now to be looking for veteran pieces.

[2011Champs]

I have to wonder what veteran the Mavs are drooling over to trade the pick for? They are probably shopping that pick big time.

I can't imagine they're shopping it much aside from in packages attempting to move up on the draft. This franchise isn't in a state right now to be looking for veteran pieces.

I agree 100% that the Mavs shouldn't be looking at veterans, I just think that Cuban wouldn't be able to resist a 30 something all star caliber type player. He has always been in love with a big name even if they are past their prime.

[Mr B]

I have to wonder what veteran the Mavs are drooling over to trade the pick for? They are probably shopping that pick big time.

I don't believe they want to trade the pick at all. If anything they are trying to acquire another pick not get rid of the one they have.

I'm not so sure about that. They might be putting on that front of acting like they care about the draft but if some team dangles the carrot(aka 30 something all star) I bet the Mavs can't resist and pull the trigger.

Yea I don't see that happening at all. Just doesn't fit with what they did this year. If that were the case they would be looking to trade a guy like Yogi and DFS and Curry would have never seen the floor. Now with that said if Washington said they wanted the #9 pick for John Wall or if Cleveland wanted #9 for Kyrie Irving then of course they would trade the pick. That ain't happening though.

[bobsquad]

I could see us moving up or down in the lottery. Not trading the pick.

[Pinkyring]

We have zero reason to be looking at trading up unless we only move current or wes future picks should be off the table as we already wasted high seconds getting noel

[Mr B]

We have zero reason to be looking at trading up unless we only move current or wes future picks should be off the table as we already wasted high seconds getting noel

Wasted? You're not a fan of a highly talented young big man?

[Pinkyring]

We have zero reason to be looking at trading up unless we only move current or wes future picks should be off the table as we already wasted high seconds getting noel

Wasted? You're not a fan of a highly talented young big man?

Im not a fan of giving up assets on asset depleted taking then subsequently paying potentially 25m a year to an injury plagued role playing big that hasnt averaged 30mpg in his career

[bobsquad]

We have zero reason to be looking at trading up unless we only move current or wes future picks should be off the table as we already wasted high seconds getting noel

I'm talking specifically about leapfrogging the Knicks by swapping with MIN, the team in the top 10 most likely to move down.

[Pinkyring]

We have zero reason to be looking at trading up unless we only move current or wes future picks should be off the table as we already wasted high seconds getting noel

I'm talking specifically about leapfrogging the Knicks by swapping with MIN, the team in the top 10 most likely to move down.

Its still going to cost something minny is just going to give us their pick to be nice and we cant afford to give anything. With a roster full of overpaid role players we need every piece of young cheap talent we can get

[Yennefer]

We are not moving up, stop dreaming Kids.

[Absinthe]

My dream is for Dennis Smith to fall. I think he's going to be better than Ball or Fultz and the only thing lowering his value is a previous knee injury.

This line up would be potent offensively and one of the better defensive line ups Dallas has had in years:

Smith
Mattthews
Barnes
Dirk
Noel

Noel could be the interior defender. Matthews is the 3 and D guy. Dirk is the floor spacer and a 3 threat. Barnes and Smith play good defense and can create their own shots. The bench would be markedly better too. It's definitely a playoff team barring any major injuries.

[Mr B]

We have zero reason to be looking at trading up unless we only move current or wes future picks should be off the table as we already wasted high seconds getting noel

Wasted? You're not a fan of a highly talented young big man?

Im not a fan of giving up assets on asset depleted taking then subsequently paying potentially 25m a year to an injury plagued role playing big that hasnt averaged 30mpg in his career

Dude 2nd round picks are lucky if they make it in the D-league. Noel has DPOY potential and was a top 5 pick. You realize that Tyson Chandler was injury prone too before the Mavs traded for him right? And at some point you have to pay for talent. Would you rather they sign some scrubass big man just because he cheap? Maybe you'd be happy if they let Noel walk and they just resign Mejri because he's cheap. In the Carlisle's offense the center doesn't need to be Hakeem or Shaq and score 30 a game. In Carlisle's offense they need their big man to be a rim protector and throw down the occasional lob, which is exactly what Noel is. I personally have no problem maxing out Noel. This team needs talent and talent cost money.

[Pinkyring]

Wasted? You're not a fan of a highly talented young big man?

Im not a fan of giving up assets on asset depleted taking then subsequently paying potentially 25m a year to an injury plagued role playing big that hasnt averaged 30mpg in his career

Dude 2nd round picks are lucky if they make it in the D-league. Noel has DPOY potential and was a top 5 pick. You realize that Tyson Chandler was injury prone too before the Mavs traded for him right? And at some point you have to pay for talent. Would you rather they sign some scrubass big man just because he cheap? Maybe you'd be happy if they let Noel walk and they just resign Mejri because he's cheap. In the Carlisle's offense the center doesn't need to be Hakeem or Shaq and score 30 a game. In Carlisle's offense they need their big man to be a rim protector and throw down the occasional lob, which is exactly what Noel is. I personally have no problem maxing out Noel. This team needs talent and talent cost money.

Tyson also wasnt on a max contract and had a history of being a productive player is also bigger and more physical than noel, he's really a positionless player too small to be a center and not skilled enough to be a pf. I dont mimd paying for talent but paying spending half the cap on 2 guys that will never be all stars is a recipe for disaster

[Darren]

Let's say both Smith and Ntilikina is gone. Do you think it's possible to trade Harris and 9th pick to Minny for Dunn, Dieng and Jones? Both Dunn and Jones are young PG. But Dieng is a proven big. He's solid statelines as starter for Minny. I think he's one of the better value coming back for the 9th pick. Jones is also underrated. He's 9PPG and 7APG per 36 mins. Dunn's a project. He's the same tool and same problem with Ntilikina. His value is as low as a second rounder I think.