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All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2

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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1581 » by gizardoe » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:08 am

So the best we could do next year is lakers #2 and this years #3? That doesn't seem like its worth the first pick this isn't the nfl.
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1582 » by Slartibartfast » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:08 am

31to6 wrote:
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LarryBirdsFingr wrote:seems like almost everyone more than hinted at it,but then again maybe i read it incorrectly.


I am no insider but watch an inordinate amount of basketball and have an understanding of what Danny Ainge values in a ball player and saw this coming from a mile away. Josh Jackson is all Danny Ainge.

Now Ainge may jerk me now too but understand for everyone who has been pumping Fultz stat line all season and ignoring the fact that he couldn't beat ... well you know. Danny Ainge had the same stat line and owned.


:nod: game recognizes game -- or lack of it. Fultz lit up Yale and lost to them. Jackson helped knock off Kentucky and Baylor when they were both ranked in the top 4 nationally.

Fultz had enormous stats because his team sucked.
Jackson had really good stats even with National Player of the Year Frank Mason Jr. playing the role of Markelle Fultz on that team.

Jackson and Brown on the wings would be amazing on both ends.
And if the draft is flat then I guess they think Tatum's pretty much a 6'9" Fultz anyway and they might not be wrong.

THIS DEAL IS GOOD.


The value is good, but I don't agree. Jackson had good stats because he was playing small-ball 4. He was able to play in a system conducive to his strengths in a way the NBA likely won't allow with his size/frame.

And Fultz didn't put up stats because his team sucked, but in spite of it.
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1583 » by GoCeltics123 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:08 am

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Wow. Looks like no big trade. Danny screwed this one up hard
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1584 » by Afam » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:08 am

Better to wait for to see if other moves are made before judging the trade. Too early to judge the without seeing, or knowing the end result.Other moves may be made to bring in players who are stars, and turn the team into contenders.
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1585 » by GoCeltics123 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:08 am

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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1586 » by smith2373 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:08 am

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smith2373 wrote:Sorry, I want no parts of a wing that shoots sub-60% on free throws


thank goodness Paul Pierce shot 61% from the line his freshman year at Kansas then (Jackson was 57%, but shot much better from the field and from 3):

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/paul-pierce-1.html


I don't recall anyone trading the #1 pick to draft freshman Paul Pierce either
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1587 » by derblitzenator » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:09 am

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AgentGreen wrote:We lack inside scoring.. Jackson will fill that gap for us and he has a decent 3, so he is potentially a two way threat imo.. Just need a 4 who can do that as well and we will have a very interesting season.

Jackson and Brown from the bench, moving the ball and switching from the perimeter to inside. Both can hit the 3 if you leave them open and when you get to close they will blowpast you, post you up or pass the ball away to a teammate who is open for the 3-pointer.

Ainge and Stevens know their stuff.. Just trust the process.


Jackson will bring inside scoring and 3pt shooting? WTF are you talking about?


He was a .378 from 3 point range in college. He was 25 for 52 in the last 2 months of the season. That can be built on.
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1588 » by ViperGTS » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:09 am

Time to fire Ainge. He has lost it. It happens. He was so excited on draft night only to trade it for 1 future pick. He f*cked up. How he is still employed is beyond me. Maybe he isn't and we just don't know.

Oh and they apparently feel about the guards as some here do. Overflowing. Riiiiight. Overflowing with overrated crap.
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1589 » by jfs1000d » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:09 am

We are going to have a butler and Hayward in here. Calm down everyone. Lol.

Why not Tatum at 3?


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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1590 » by tombattor » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:09 am

greenroom31 wrote:
AgentGreen wrote:We lack inside scoring.. Jackson will fill that gap for us and he has a decent 3, so he is potentially a two way threat imo.. Just need a 4 who can do that as well and we will have a very interesting season.

Jackson and Brown from the bench, moving the ball and switching from the perimeter to inside. Both can hit the 3 if you leave them open and when you get to close they will blowpast you, post you up or pass the ball away to a teammate who is open for the 3-pointer.

Ainge and Stevens know their stuff.. Just trust the process.


Jackson will bring inside scoring and 3pt shooting? WTF are you talking about?

People just drinking the coolaid and doing the ever-annoying, "Danny knows everything and he can do no wrong" garbage. Makes me wanna puke.
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1591 » by Jaqua92 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:09 am

So the Celtics have 8 first round picks between now and 2019. Maybe not a bad trade. But lets reach for a star
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1592 » by jfs1000d » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:09 am

gizardoe wrote:So the best we could do next year is lakers #2 and this years #3? That doesn't seem like its worth the first pick this isn't the nfl.


Yes it is.


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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1593 » by Avalanche » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:09 am

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This is a **** joke.

Yeah...

If they actually had someone to else as the best player in the draft and they can get him at 3 that's one thing

Letting pending free agents and role players decide the fate of a number 1 pick is rediculous

Getting both picks I was ok, getting one more potentially mid '19 pick if things don't go well, not so much

And why not keep the bidding open until draft time?
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1594 » by ViperGTS » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:10 am

jfs1000d wrote:We are going to have a butler and Hayward in here. Calm down everyone. Lol.

Why not Tatum at 3?


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Don't want/need Butler. Why do people insist on this? I have no idea?

Are you all Danny Ainge?
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1595 » by GoCeltics123 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:10 am

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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1596 » by Banks2Pierce » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:10 am

tombattor wrote:But favors was the 3rd pick. What I mean is that, you don't get to take everyone that was there at 3 and pick the best one in hindsight. It's more of a crap shoot as you go father down the list. Besides, none of those other players are as good as wall.


They're all better than Wall. Hayward is the only questionable one, but plays the thinner position so I'd take him.

In that draft, ET was a later bloomer and took barely any 3s. Favors has a suboptimal brain type per the Brain Doctor's blog. Wes Johnson was a like a 23 year old junior and people have since figured out age curves much better. Udoh was an obvious role player as a late bloomer and old. You can stack the deck in your favor and have the internal data to see how your boards have done if it's a thin draft. May counter with James Young, but post-lottery and top 10 are different worlds IMO.
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1597 » by Jakeopp » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:10 am

DK-All Day wrote:This will backfire.

Watch.

Feels like it already has
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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1598 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:10 am

just be patient. Danny doesn't give a **** what we think, hes doing what he thinks is best.
I don't believe in statistics. There are too many factors that can't be measured. You can't measure a ballplayer's heart. -Red Auerbach

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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1599 » by jfs1000d » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:10 am

ViperGTS wrote:Time to fire Ainge. He has lost it. It happens. He was so excited on draft night only to trade it for 1 future pick. He f*cked up. How he is still employed is beyond me. Maybe he isn't and we just don't know.

Oh and they apparently feel about the guards as some here do. Overflowing. Riiiiight. Overflowing with overrated crap.


He isn't going anywhere. Ownership, management, scouting and brad are in agreement here. This isn't a one guy decision.


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Re: All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2 

Post#1600 » by Marvel » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:10 am

So Danny balked on drafting Fultz because too many guards? LMFAO that's like saying "won't draft KG too many pfs on my roster".

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