All things Draft Pick. #3

meatball sub · Post #1321 » by **meatball sub** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:33 am

CrowderKeg wrote:Yeah, if we can get PG without dealing Brown/#3/LAL-SAC/BKN, do it! Even if it costs us two starters.

This X 1000

ConstableGeneva · Post #1322 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:33 am

Captain_Caveman wrote:**** George. Go Butler.

Part of me thinks Ainge is involved in leaking this **** to drive down price for Butler haha.
Personally, PG > Butler for me for reasons already stated. Closest thing to Kawhi you can have with regards to challenging Lebron and KD on the big stage.

Afam · Post #1323 » by **Afam** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:33 am

Paul George is better than Jimmy Butler.

Jaqua92 · Post #1324 » by **Jaqua92** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:33 am

GoCeltics123 wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:

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Anyone but Cleveland please

It wont be. I got a notification on my phone saying Cleveland couldnt offer what they wanted

Tyakack · Post #1325 » by **Tyakack** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:33 am

PG is no lebron but I've seen him on multiple occasions hold his own against him in a playoff series. Similar to pierce.

Banks2Pierce · Post #1326 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:33 am

Hmmm we have the extra stuff and would be a genuine % shot at the Finals with him where other teams are too low on the trajectory curve to get good enough for that which bumps up the chances of retaining him. Maybe the ideal person on the planet outside of Kawhi to have a go at both Lebron and KD. Wonder what Vegas odds would look like on this? We'd have to be in the top 3, no?

illmatic24 · Post #1327 » by **illmatic24** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:34 am

I don't see how the Cavs can get George even if they include another team. They don't have anything noteworthy to give other than Kevin Love... and why would a rebuilding team want him? He's not going to make whoever he's traded to that much better and by the time his new team is ready to really compete, he'll be 30+ and out of his prime. It makes zero sense for Phoenix or Indiana to trade for Love. It also makes Cleveland pretty weak inside despite having Thompson. I think Cleveland's play would be to keep Love and still get PG but how can they pull that off? The Celtics can easily top any offer they make if they want him.

I'm starting to think this is a big reason why Danny agreed to trade the #1 pick. If he moves the Lakers pick in a deal for PG, he's basically shipping out something like Crowder, Zeller and the #1 to get Paul George and the #3. I'll take that deal any day and take my chances that he sticks around to play on a winning team. Or maybe he somehow convinces Sacramento to come off their picks and trades #5 or #10 in a deal for PG, hence the workouts of guys like DSJ. I don't know, I just think PG is happening somehow at this point. Nobody can top the Celtics offer for him if they want him. And it shouldn't cost a ton asset wise to acquire him.

greenroom31 · Post #1328 » by **greenroom31** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:34 am

CrowderKeg wrote:

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Makes sense. The more GMs speak they will be able to collude on offers and the return for Indiana will get worse and worse. They have to run this almost like I-bankers and try to create a high pressure secretive competitive bidding process. The longer it draws out the more people will talk and kill Indy's leverage.

ConstableGeneva · Post #1329 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:35 am

165bows wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:

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Well, there is the rush for the PHI deal to get done lol.

KOC, that you?

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chrisab123 · Post #1330 » by **chrisab123** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:36 am

CrowderKeg wrote:
165bows wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:

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Well, there is the rush for the PHI deal to get done lol.

KOC, that you?

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Make the deal and sign Hayward/Griffin. That's a contender.

darylbe · Post #1331 » by **darylbe** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:36 am

robdog_5 wrote:Why do people say we're mortgaging are future if we trade 2 first for PG13 and 2 role players. Bos 2018 will be late. Lakers/Sacramento won't know. We can keep Jaylen, keep Zizic, keep #3 pick and keep 2018 BRK which IMO are the top assets

Because these teams would want you unborn child, that's why we sat there Jerking it last year. Nobody is getting anything for a Boston or Memphis 1st. They will demand multiple bkn/la/Philly firsts. Why the f would it change now

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CelticsPride18 · Post #1332 » by **CelticsPride18** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:37 am

If Love is on the table it might be hard to top that.

Green89 · Post #1333 » by **Green89** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:37 am

I'd deal the #3 pick if George committed to an extension. Slim chance Tatum or Jackson become as good as PG.

Fencer reregistered · Post #1334 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:38 am

CrowderKeg wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:**** George. Go Butler.

Part of me thinks Ainge is involved in leaking this **** to drive down price for Butler haha.
Personally, PG > Butler for me for reasons already stated. Closest thing to Kawhi you can have with regards to challenging Lebron and KD on the big stage.

And anything he said about not wanting to play the 4 is irrelevant versus lineups with "bigs" like those guys.

Green89 · Post #1335 » by **Green89** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:38 am

CelticsPride18 wrote:If Love is on the table it might be hard to top that.

Lebron swapping Love for George does not get them past Golden State.

Post #1336 » by **Darthlukey** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:38 am

Spin Cycle wrote:
Darthlukey wrote:
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:I am 100% sure that Ainge has already told Kevin Pritchard to call him before he trades George. The Celtics have enough to match any trade offer. No need for Ainge to make an early bid now

Long shot but I wonder if bird stepped down so ainge wouldnt cop **** about doing another deal with ' mates rates'

He stepped down because he saw the writing on the wall and was like, "F-this".

That too. Didn't want to be the guy who lost pg

The Rondo Show · Post #1337 » by **The Rondo Show** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:39 am

chrisab123 wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:
165bows wrote:Well, there is the rush for the PHI deal to get done lol.

KOC, that you?

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Make the deal and sign Hayward/Griffin. That's a contender.

More importantly, Ainge will never have a more dominant position of leverage in trade talks for a star than in these talks. You could legit potentially hang onto all of your core future assets (#3, J.Brown, BKN '18, LAL/SAC pick) because George has killed his market so bad that people are actually debating whether a 29 year old max $$$ Kevin Love is enough for George, and it's not totally crazy. Any star you get is going to come at a far higher cost than this.

Now there is a reason for that and he is a legit flight risk no matter what this board claims, but for the price I imagine it'll cost? Worth it. Hope Ainge pulls the trigger, though I'm skeptical he will. He's soured away from rentals lately, think he will here but hoping he takes the risk like he was supposedly willing to on CP3 years ago.

FuriousRiles · Post #1338 » by **FuriousRiles** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:39 am

darylbe wrote:
robdog_5 wrote:Why do people say we're mortgaging are future if we trade 2 first for PG13 and 2 role players. Bos 2018 will be late. Lakers/Sacramento won't know. We can keep Jaylen, keep Zizic, keep #3 pick and keep 2018 BRK which IMO are the top assets

Because these teams would want you unborn child, that's why we sat there Jerking it last year. Nobody is getting anything for a Boston or Memphis 1st. They will demand multiple bkn/la/Philly firsts. Why the f would it change now

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Because PG said he's not resigning with IND. They have no leverage. Price has changed and they won't get close to what they could have a last years trade deadline.

Post #1339 » by **Darthlukey** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:39 am

Green89 wrote:
CelticsPride18 wrote:If Love is on the table it might be hard to top that.

Lebron swapping Love for George does not get them past Golden State.

It would make them a lot better

Fencer reregistered · Post #1340 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:39 am

Green89 wrote:I'd deal the #3 pick if George committed to an extension. Slim chance Tatum or Jackson become as good as PG.

Same here.

But now that he's shooting his way out of town, I'd try hard to get him for less.