2017 Draft Thread

[minimus]

I guess Ainge will try to do something like Crowder, #3 for Butler

To Bulls: #3 + #7 + Lakers/Kings 1st

To Celtics: Butler

To Wolves: Crowder + 16

Awesome deal for MIN. We get Crowder and can draft someone like OG or Justine Jackson

KAT/Dieng/Aldrich
Dieng/Bjelica/OG
Crowder/Wiggins/OG
Wiggins/LaVine/Dunn
Rubio/Dunn/Jones

[Killboard]

I guess Ainge will try to do something like Crowder, #3 for Butler

To Bulls: #3 + #7 + Lakers/Kings 1st

To Celtics: Butler

To Wolves: Crowder + 16

Awesome deal for MIN. We get Crowder and can draft someone like OG or Justine Jackson

KAT/Dieng/Aldrich
Dieng/Bjelica/OG
Crowder/Wiggins/OG
Wiggins/LaVine/Dunn
Rubio/Dunn/Jones

I dont think Boston includes the Lakers/Kings pick. That's probably exchange a fair chance to get a 1st overall pick next season (and a chance to get a generational talent with it) for the rights to lose with the warriors the next 3 or 4 seasons. They could add one of Bradley/Smart/Brown however.

[Mattya]

people are adding Ben Simmons into the injury prone talk because it makes them feel better about downplaying what the Sixers could potentially build

I suppose we should consider him breaking his foot a good thing.

Never said it was a good thing. But to act like there's a dark cloud hanging over him and the 76ers because of a freak injury is pushing it a bit.

Until he is actually healthy, it will be a question. That is without mentioning that he actually has to prove that he is as good as advertised when he actually does make it on the court.

[karch34]

Am I crazy for thinking Kevin Love would be a good fit here? Proven scorer, rebounder, great outlet passes to our young athletes on the break, winning experience and leadership. Might even want to come back seeing the new talent here. Maybe as a third team in a Carmelo Anthony or Paul George trade?

Doesn't the team need defensive help on the interior?

I think Love would be a great fit. He's not a great defender, but he's shown in Cleveland he's willing.

[Klomp]

Markelle Fultz
Lonzo Ball
Jayson Tatum
Josh Jackson
DeAaron Fox
Jonathan Isaac
Dennis Smith, Jr.

Is there anyone on this list that you WOULD NOT draft if he were the odd man out of the Top 6?

If so, I think trading No. 7 should be seriously considered. If not, go ahead and wait for whoever falls.

The more I think about it, the more I think Malik Monk should be seriously considered as well.

I know everyone wants to move LaVine to the bench permanently, but I'm not convinced that will happen. If it doesn't, this team is in desperate need of bench scoring and 3-point shooting. Enter Monk, who easily takes care of both issues. Defense is still an issue, but it's an area that can be addressed in free agency.

He might have one of the lowest floors of anyone in the Top 10, due to his 3-point shooting. And with that athleticism, I wouldn't say his ceiling is limited either. He could easily play alongside Rubio, Dunn or LaVine, which keeps a number of rotation combinations open.

[Worm Guts]

Markelle Fultz
Lonzo Ball
Jayson Tatum
Josh Jackson
DeAaron Fox
Jonathan Isaac
Dennis Smith, Jr.

Is there anyone on this list that you WOULD NOT draft if he were the odd man out of the Top 6?

If so, I think trading No. 7 should be seriously considered. If not, go ahead and wait for whoever falls.

The more I think about it, the more I think Malik Monk should be seriously considered as well.

I know everyone wants to move LaVine to the bench permanently, but I'm not convinced that will happen. If it doesn't, this team is in desperate need of bench scoring and 3-point shooting. Enter Monk, who easily takes care of both issues. Defense is still an issue, but it's an area that can be addressed in free agency.

He might have one of the lowest floors of anyone in the Top 10, due to his 3-point shooting. And with that athleticism, I wouldn't say his ceiling is limited either. He could easily play alongside Rubio, Dunn or LaVine, which keeps a number of rotation combinations open.

He can play along side Lavine? Who's the PG? I don't think those 2 are a very good combo.

[Worm Guts]

And just in general, you can only play 3 guards major minutes, so if you take any guard you probably have to make a decision on somebody.

[vagelis]

I think that Thibs will decide between DSJ and Malik Monk.
In my opinion they will be the best players available in the position that we will draft.
I think that M. Monk is a little bit better prospect and personally I would select him despite the fact that he plays in the same position with Lavine.
I think that Rubio will be traded this summer and the decision will be if the player who replaces him will be from the free agency(and then he selects Monk in the draft) or from the draft(then he selects DSJ).
The most possible senario is that Rubio will be traded for a player who plays C or PF and I could see a trade with Knicks or Mavs if they could draft a big and offer their pick to us(maybe one of Markkanen,Jarret Allen, John Collins).

[Klomp]

He can play along side Lavine? Who's the PG? I don't think those 2 are a very good combo.

It might not be an amazing combo, but I don't think it's a bad one either. I think the need for Rubio-level passing in order to be a PG is way overblown. It wouldn't be the most-used combination, anyways. It's not like I'd be calling for 30 mpg of that backcourt.

And just in general, you can only play 3 guards major minutes, so if you take any guard you probably have to make a decision on somebody.

Dunn would play a role/minutes similar to what he did last year. I'm pretty sure that's all anyone is expecting of him at this point in his development.

[Klomp]

I think that Thibs will decide between DSJ and Malik Monk.

I think there are a lot of similarities in offensive potential and defensive deficiency between Monk and Smith's game, but I don't think drafting Monk would require a trade of a current player like Rubio while drafting Smith would.

[Worm Guts]

He can play along side Lavine? Who's the PG? I don't think those 2 are a very good combo.

It might not be an amazing combo, but I don't think it's a bad one either. I think the need for Rubio-level passing in order to be a PG is way overblown. It wouldn't be the most-used combination, anyways. It's not like I'd be calling for 30 mpg of that backcourt.

It doesn't need to be a Rubio level passer, but we've seen what happens Lavine plays PG. Maybe Monk can do it competently, but I don't think we saw it at Kentucky.
And if both Monk and Lavine are going to be 30+ minutes players, then one is spending close to 15 minutes per game there.

And just in general, you can only play 3 guards major minutes, so if you take any guard you probably have to make a decision on somebody.

Dunn would play a role/minutes similar to what he did last year. I'm pretty sure that's all anyone is expecting of him at this point in his development.

2 of them would be getting backup minutes, and that may be OK for Monk as a rookie, but this probably has be done with the idea of letting Rubio walk at the end of his contract. Then you would be looking at a 3 guard rotation of Dunn, Lavine and Monk if everything worked out.
Definitely can't take a guard though without understanding that at some point someone will be pushed out.

[theGreatRC]

If it comes down with it, take DSJ and run. Highest upside out of the remaining players, there's no way he will be worse than Dunn.

Also, we could probably get someone back if we shopped Dunn, like Trevor Booker from the Nets, a team thirsting for talent

[Klomp]

Definitely can't take a guard though without understanding that at some point someone will be pushed out.

Sure, that's fair. But at least it's not a pick that would force the team to trade someone (Rubio) immediately for a net negative return. The four guards can get by sharing the backcourt for a year or two, especially with LaVine recovering from injury to start the year.

[Klomp]

I think we need to make up our minds here if we want to improve the bench production or not. Everyone says they want to, but then seems scared to add to the bench without trading someone because someone might not get enough minutes.

That's not improving the bench; that's just changing out a starter.

[Worm Guts]

I think we need to make up our minds here if we want to improve the bench production or not. Everyone says they want to, but then seems scared to add to the bench without trading someone because someone might not get enough minutes.

That's not improving the bench; that's just changing out a starter.

It seems like common sense that adding a player who gives you 30 minutes a night is more valuable than someone giving you 15 minutes a night. I think where we're drafting, we're hoping for someone who will eventually give us starter minutes.

[Klomp]

I think we need to make up our minds here if we want to improve the bench production or not. Everyone says they want to, but then seems scared to add to the bench without trading someone because someone might not get enough minutes.

That's not improving the bench; that's just changing out a starter.

It seems like common sense that adding a player who gives you 30 minutes a night is more valuable than someone giving you 15 minutes a night. I think where we're drafting, we're hoping for someone who will eventually give us starter minutes.

Just because he'll give us 15 minutes a night as a rookie doesn't mean he's locked into that number for his entire career. And where we're picking, I don't know that anyone is a lock to give the team 30 minutes a night now or down the road. Monk has just as good a shot as anybody to be that guy eventually. Key word being eventually.

[Calinks]

Bench needs a world of help. I am not opposed to drafting someone who can bring some bench offense. Its in major trouble.

[Worm Guts]

I think we need to make up our minds here if we want to improve the bench production or not. Everyone says they want to, but then seems scared to add to the bench without trading someone because someone might not get enough minutes.

That's not improving the bench; that's just changing out a starter.

It seems like common sense that adding a player who gives you 30 minutes a night is more valuable than someone giving you 15 minutes a night. I think where we're drafting, we're hoping for someone who will eventually give us starter minutes.

Just because he'll give us 15 minutes a night as a rookie doesn't mean he's locked into that number for his entire career. And where we're picking, I don't know that anyone is a lock to give the team 30 minutes a night now or down the road. Monk has just as good a shot as anybody to be that guy eventually. Key word being eventually.

If he can't play with Lavine, then one of them is getting backup minutes. And that would be for as long as they were both on the team.

[Klomp]

If he can't play with Lavine, then one of them is getting backup minutes. And that would be for as long as they were both on the team.

Why couldn't they play together? I think that grouping would be fine. They're good enough shooters to overcome any defensive liabilities.

[Worm Guts]

If he can't play with Lavine, then one of them is getting backup minutes. And that would be for as long as they were both on the team.

Why couldn't they play together? I think that grouping would be fine. They're good enough shooters to overcome any defensive liabilities.

Because they both only play one position. Who's playing PG?