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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1921 » by chrisab123 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:21 pm

CelticsPride18 wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19679832/boston-celtics-work-jayson-tatum-possible-selection-no-3-pick

Tatum impressed in his workout for the C's. I want to draft this kid.


If they grab him over Jackson thats a good get. Can Ainge be convinced to go against his gut though?
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1922 » by The Corey's » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:21 pm

fallguy wrote:
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fallguy wrote:What do people value more highly - the #3 pick or Jaylen?


Danny would ofc taken brown last year number 1. He just proved that this year.

Hard decision for me since brown didn't show alot but showed enough that there's something there. Stuff a million other prospects never do.

But pick 3 has the unknkown and could be a jackpot.

Id say pick 3


Danny didn't prove that he would have taken Brown #1 last year because he traded down this year.

That idea doesn't make any sense at all.


It makes perfect sense actually.

I can only go on what danny has proven over and over again.

That he has his own draft board. That he has his own set of guys he likes and that when he has the number 1 pick he will go against convention and consensus and trade down to take a guy who can't shoot.

Be real man. Danny values pick 3 and extra lottery picks over pick number 1. This isn't because he doesn't like fultz.

And realistically what are the chances the Celtics bring Simmons in for a workout last year and don't find the injury that led to his season ending surgery? We're already hearing spin that fultz leg is playing a part in this decision. God forbid this kid misses next year and all the "danny was right just see threads pop up.

Atleast HALF of real gm believe that fultz is better or equal to Simmons. This isn't simply a case of last year number 1 pick is just leagues ahead of this one. I know this because I put the poll out on the general board. People are spilt.

And Simmons can't shoot for ****.

It's not hard to derive what danny would of done. If we had pick 1 and Sixers had 3 last year he would of coupd the laker pick this year like he did for next year's.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1923 » by ctorres » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:22 pm

OFWGKTA wrote:I'd do #3, 19Memphis pick, and Celtics 18 pick (not Brooklyn), does NYC accept that?


Probably not, even though that is a respectable offer from the Celtics' side.

The draft is still a crapshoot. With Porzingis, you know what you're getting: a guy who right now can put up 18+ ppg, 7+ rpg, 2+ bpg, and makes 36% of his threes (5 attempts per game). He is only 21 and still has 2 years left on his rookie contract.

If it's Porzingis by himself, I think the Knicks would demand no less than either the #3 pick and one future high lottery pick. Knicks might even ask for another pick beyond that. Totally understandable if the Celtics would say no at that point.

I don't think the Knicks are looking to trade Porzingis. However, he is not considered untouchable. The reports a while back were that the Knicks got a bunch of calls on Porzingis after Porzingis blew off his exit meeting with the Knicks. This is why I have speculated that among the teams who called the Knicks, one of them may have been the Celtics.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1924 » by DK-All Day » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:22 pm

Hoping Lonzo falls to 3. We could hold him ransom for the Suns or Kings. Get both Heat picks or 5, 10, and WCS.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1925 » by Homerclease » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:22 pm

Looking more and more like Tatum is the guy if they stay at 3
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1926 » by Gomes3PC » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:23 pm

Top choice - package #3 for Butler

Fall-back - trade down again with Sacto for #5 + WCS or #10; draft Isaac at #5 and if we get #10, Donovan Mitchell/Zach Collins

Last resort - just use the pick on Isaac or Jackson
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1927 » by The Corey's » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:24 pm

Homerclease wrote:Looking more and more like Tatum is the guy if they stay at 3


Atpeaset Tatum has th3 bulk. I see Jackson and I see a guy were gonna have to wait 3 years before he can even hang with the league
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1928 » by Darth Celtic » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:24 pm

ajones9219 wrote:https://twitter.com/Robot_Davey
I hate to be the dude throwing out random ass twitter accounts. But does anyone know who this dude is? Says he used to work at CSNNE I guess? Seems pretty damn sketchy but who knows

EDIT: didn't notice the dude has less than 100 followers lol

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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1929 » by DarkAzcura » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:24 pm

The Corey's wrote:
fallguy wrote:
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Danny would ofc taken brown last year number 1. He just proved that this year.

Hard decision for me since brown didn't show alot but showed enough that there's something there. Stuff a million other prospects never do.

But pick 3 has the unknkown and could be a jackpot.

Id say pick 3


Danny didn't prove that he would have taken Brown #1 last year because he traded down this year.

That idea doesn't make any sense at all.


It makes perfect sense actually.

I can only go on what danny has proven over and over again.

That he has his own draft board. That he has his own set of guys he likes and that when he has the number 1 pick he will go against convention and consensus and trade down to take a guy who can't shoot.

Be real man. Danny values pick 3 and extra lottery picks over pick number 1. This isn't because he doesn't like fultz.

And realistically what are the chances the Celtics bring Simmons in for a workout last year and don't find the injury that led to his season ending surgery? We're already hearing spin that fultz leg is playing a part in this decision. God forbid this kid misses next year and all the "danny was right just see threads pop up.

Atleast HALF of real gm believe that fultz is better or equal to Simmons. This isn't simply a case of last year number 1 pick is just leagues ahead of this one. I know this because I put the poll out on the general board. People are spilt.

And Simmons can't shoot for ****.

It's not hard to derive what danny would of done. If we had pick 1 and Sixers had 3 last year he would of coupd the laker pick this year like he did for next year's.


This year's draft had 3-4 players that would have potentially went number 1 last year. 2016 was a weak draft. I also wouldn't use this year as any kind of indication of what Ainge would have done last season.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1930 » by fallguy » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:24 pm

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fallguy wrote:
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Danny would ofc taken brown last year number 1. He just proved that this year.

Hard decision for me since brown didn't show alot but showed enough that there's something there. Stuff a million other prospects never do.

But pick 3 has the unknkown and could be a jackpot.

Id say pick 3


Danny didn't prove that he would have taken Brown #1 last year because he traded down this year.

That idea doesn't make any sense at all.


It makes perfect sense actually.

I can only go on what danny has proven over and over again.

That he has his own draft board. That he has his own set of guys he likes and that when he has the number 1 pick he will go against convention and consensus and trade down to take a guy who can't shoot.

Be real man. Danny values pick 3 and extra lottery picks over pick number 1. This isn't because he doesn't like fultz.

And realistically what are the chances the Celtics bring Simmons in for a workout last year and don't find the injury that led to his season ending surgery? We're already hearing spin that fultz leg is playing a part in this decision. God forbid this kid misses next year and all the "danny was right just see threads pop up.

Atleast HALF of real gm believe that fultz is better or equal to Simmons. This isn't simply a case of last year number 1 pick is just leagues ahead of this one. I know this because I put the poll out on the general board. People are spilt.

And Simmons can't shoot for ****.

It's not hard to derive what danny would of done. If we had pick 1 and Sixers had 3 last year he would of coupd the laker pick this year like he did for next year's.


If Danny had Simmons on the top of his board, he would not have traded a first overall pick last year.

He would have taken Simmons.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1931 » by SmartWentCrazy » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:25 pm

That's workout #2 for Tatum, for those scoring at home. With zero workouts for Jackson (no way you pick him without meeting face to face on his off court ****), looking like our guy is gunna be Tatum.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1932 » by ajones9219 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:26 pm

Darth Celtic wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:https://twitter.com/Robot_Davey
I hate to be the dude throwing out random ass twitter accounts. But does anyone know who this dude is? Says he used to work at CSNNE I guess? Seems pretty damn sketchy but who knows

EDIT: didn't notice the dude has less than 100 followers lol

fake news


Yeah I took a deeper dive into that feed and it got absurd fairly quickly
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1933 » by fallguy » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:28 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:That's workout #2 for Tatum, for those scoring at home. With zero workouts for Jackson (no way you pick him without meeting face to face on his off court ****), looking like our guy is gunna be Tatum.


Super comfortable with this.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1934 » by Darth Celtic » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:29 pm

If Tatum is the guy, i'd try and move down with suns and pick up another future pick. More and more assets for AD godfather offer at the deadline.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1935 » by The Corey's » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:29 pm

fallguy wrote:
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Danny didn't prove that he would have taken Brown #1 last year because he traded down this year.

That idea doesn't make any sense at all.


It makes perfect sense actually.

I can only go on what danny has proven over and over again.

That he has his own draft board. That he has his own set of guys he likes and that when he has the number 1 pick he will go against convention and consensus and trade down to take a guy who can't shoot.

Be real man. Danny values pick 3 and extra lottery picks over pick number 1. This isn't because he doesn't like fultz.

And realistically what are the chances the Celtics bring Simmons in for a workout last year and don't find the injury that led to his season ending surgery? We're already hearing spin that fultz leg is playing a part in this decision. God forbid this kid misses next year and all the "danny was right just see threads pop up.

Atleast HALF of real gm believe that fultz is better or equal to Simmons. This isn't simply a case of last year number 1 pick is just leagues ahead of this one. I know this because I put the poll out on the general board. People are spilt.

And Simmons can't shoot for ****.

It's not hard to derive what danny would of done. If we had pick 1 and Sixers had 3 last year he would of coupd the laker pick this year like he did for next year's.


If Danny had Simmons on the top of his board, he would not have traded a first overall pick last year.

He would have taken Simmons.


1000% agree.

But he didn't. He had brown.

Cause danny has a type.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1936 » by DK-All Day » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:30 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:That's workout #2 for Tatum, for those scoring at home. With zero workouts for Jackson (no way you pick him without meeting face to face on his off court ****), looking like our guy is gunna be Tatum.


Ainge is pretty aware of Jackson and Tatum. If he thinks JJ is better, he isn't going to pass on him because he didn't come for a workout IMO.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1937 » by The Corey's » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:32 pm

Darth Celtic wrote:If Tatum is the guy, i'd try and move down with suns and pick up another future pick. More and more assets for AD godfather offer at the deadline.


I think danny has the option to trade with sac or Phoenix but not both.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1938 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:32 pm

IT'S OFFICIAL.

"The future first round pick will be the Los Angeles Lakers’ 2018 pick if it’s within the No. 2 to No. 5 range of the 2018 draft. If it is not, the Celtics will instead receive either Sacramento’s or Philadelphia’s first round pick in 2019, whichever is more favorable. However, if either of those 2019 picks result in the first overall selection, Boston will instead receive the other first round pick."
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1939 » by CelticsLV » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:32 pm

Tatum actually makes sense. He's very good at ISO and has a very high release to his shot. Players like him has Nr1 option potenial.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1940 » by The Corey's » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:33 pm

CrowderKeg wrote:IT'S OFFICIAL.

"The future first round pick will be the Los Angeles Lakers’ 2018 pick if it’s within the No. 2 to No. 5 range of the 2018 draft. If it is not, the Celtics will instead receive either Sacramento’s or Philadelphia’s first round pick in 2019, whichever is more favorable. However, if either of those 2019 picks result in the first overall selection, Boston will instead receive the other first round pick."


So if sac gets first overall pick and Sixers make the playoffs danny **** misses here. Badly.

Migujt as well root for the pick to convert this season

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